Thoughts on burnout and its effects to pvp
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Arbegla,
Posted on: 2011-08-12 14:01 in Everything about PvP
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I think regens get the most out of this power by instantly recharging the heals and stacking or doubling the duration of IH/MoG. Six straight minutes of T9 powers will be useful for other sets.|
Originally Posted by Like_Woah
Speed power pool tier 5 power:
Burnout – By sacrificing a large amount of Endurance for a short time, the user can instantly recharge all of their Primary and Secondary powers. I would assume this will instantly become a must have for every pvp build. What is everyones thoughts to having perma elude and such? |
I can see this power being kind of useful for builds that have long recharges on key powers. Things like instantly recharging heatloss, dull pain, or hoarfrost for example.
There are still plenty of builds that won't gain much from this power at all.
@Dawun
Old School
Renegades
Zomg...Thermals are gonna be beast with double heat exhaustion....
@-Kurgain
-FAP-Renegades-Whirligig-Velocity-Bedlam
omg this is gonna jack up pvp...
I have just been informed the power is currently on a 30 min base recharge. So since that's the case idk if its entirely worth taking. Still interesting.
@-Kurgain
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It also costs 50 endurance iirc.
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You can lower the recharge on it via enhancements and alpha boosts. It also may or may not be affected by global recharge.. So you could get it down to 10-ish minute recharge pretty easy, even after DR..
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Originally Posted by Like_Woah
I have just been informed the power is currently on a 30 min base recharge. So since that's the case idk if its entirely worth taking. Still interesting.
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10 min is a long wait for a power to recharge, add in the fact that most pvp builds are pretty tight and I am not sure I could justify taking it. I am sure there are some AT builds that have the wiggle room, but alot don't. If they lower the base recharge it will be a no brainer.
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Originally Posted by Arbegla
You can lower the recharge on it via enhancements and alpha boosts. It also may or may not be affected by global recharge.. So you could get it down to 10-ish minute recharge pretty easy, even after DR..
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@-Kurgain
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Most powers like that don't stack from the same caster.
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Originally Posted by Like_Woah
Zomg...Thermals are gonna be beast with double heat exhaustion....
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yeah, can definitely see a "this power does not stack from the same caster" coming for several powers.
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Originally Posted by macskull
Most powers like that don't stack from the same caster.
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The power lowers your max end, costs quite a bit, and has a ridiculous recharge timer so I am not too worried. I'm sure there will be a few exceptions and a handful of powers/powersets that will be "abused". Double tier 9's.. that's going to be annoying.
I also expect to see a more flying /em blasters using afterburner and teleport in zone lol. For those who don't know, afterburn allows one to break flight speed cap at the cost of being in only affecting self state and grants a nice +defense bonus.
Given the end boost usually coming with tier 9's I think it'll definitely be Viable for things like Nin Stalkers or those lol 3500 HP Inv tanks you see in zones. It'll have some uses, but really I couldn't see something like your Averaged Ranged damage toon getting all that much out of it, given the costs and recharge.
Stacking t9s like elude and power surge do not work and the power gives -25 total end so basically this power was made for regens to be even better thats it.
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You dont stack it, you wait your 3min and use again, stop hattin on reginsssss!!!!|
Originally Posted by C-Note
Stacking t9s like elude and power surge do not work and the power gives -25 total end so basically this power was made for regens to be even better thats it.
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I can see it working for all melee in some form or another, ranged fighters with certain epics IE hoarfrost, power surge and simular powers, or just for the sake of blowing through a back to back attack chain. More of a gimick than a necessidy though.
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it would seem a good choice for any duel build - blasters can have hiber back up - hoarfrost back up etc...tier 9s back up - all for carrying some blues.
I don't see it being any good for zone or team arena
The thing with arena is that it will be recharged at the end of every match no matter what the cooldown is. Having said that there really isn't anything in team v team arena I can think of that needs more recharge in the current meta. Perhaps stalker tier 9's or maybe double inferno with half a tray of blues?
Thorizdin
Lords of the Dead
Old School Legends
No one takes nukes anymore, they do like 5 damage.
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I don't see it making any real diff with the current recharge rate. Therms could use the ability to stack HE since anyone with half a brain laughs off -end with cardiac and or force of nature.
just to be clear..it doesn't work on pool powers.
RA's dont stack either 
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Hiber will get you no phase for a min. I don't think it has any meaning. :/
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Originally Posted by Jaso
blasters can have hiber back up
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Speed power pool tier 5 power:
Burnout – By sacrificing a large amount of Endurance for a short time, the user can instantly recharge all of their Primary and Secondary powers.
I would assume this will instantly become a must have for every pvp build. What is everyones thoughts to having perma elude and such?