Thorizdin_LotD

Really you don't have any bad choices (depends on build tho) in these class combinations. The Controllers will struggle with Lts some since they can't be mezzed, but with the Incarnate pets & damage it still shouldn't be too hard.

I'd say that either of your MM's would probably be tops followed by your Brute, but like I said any of these can solo a door without much/any leakage.

That sucks guys, really enjoyed the matches and practices.

I have to disagree, the extra nukes are nice to haves but not required for PL'ing. Getting a character to 50 in less than 15 hours is very doable today PL'ing with a premium account.

Preparation IS important, but it shouldn't be the end all be all of the conflict. Planning & execution go hand in hand and EVE is weak (IMO) in the execution portion of PvP. I frankly don't even consider it strong in the preparation for a battle in comparison to SB and even DF, but at least its not a weakness for EVE.

In terms of player skill in regards to PvP I don't think there is much in EVE at all because the entire game is dedicated to building fleets and getting the resources for them. Its probably the deepest current MMO in that regard and certainly takes time and dedication but little in the regard for actual tactics. There is much more social engineering than strategy, which includes those folks that get to be "friends" with people on the development team. EVE is much like checkers in that regard, there isn't a ladder or even a metric in game that directly tracks who is good and who isn't at PvP. There are things that track overall corp success, but PvP skill is really a small part of that because the game itself doesn't require skill or tactics to succeed in combat.

CoH has a different set of problems, the actual combat takes a great deal of twitch and tactical skills but the PvP community is tiny. In terms of speed its by far the fastest PvP in a MMO, but it lacks territory/resource control options. (lol, base raids) Off hand I'd agree with Fiery, comparing the two is basically impossible since they are almost complete opposites in terms of approach.

Yeah, I don't think size of player base is indicative of competitiveness. It is a factor, but its hardly a major one. Halo in its various incarnations is far more popular than CSS is, but its no where near as competitive, despite being in the same genre. Another example, is chess more or less competitive than checkers? Many more people play checkers than chess but that despite having a much larger pool players its certainly NOT as competitive as chess.

EVE's combat system has skill elements, and the game itself is undeniably complex, but combat itself isn't particularly deep IMO or challenging. Getting ready for combat and coordinating the numbers of people to bring the right resources to the fight shouldn't be the hardest part of a battle in my view and that is (or at least was) the state of things in EVE.

Slot one in Foot Stomp, its much more valuable in the PBAoE than in single target attacks. It also will NOT stack nor will a new one over write an active buff in this case. Put damage procs in your single target attacks (if you want) and one of the damage procs in Burn.

CO was most certainly going to be Marvel Universe Online:

http://www.1up.com/news/marvel-universe-online-dead

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Crypt...ne-36744.shtml

What is the most efficient way to farm them?

Ahh, now I get you. AFAIK 16v16 was never really popular, certainly not when Lions Den was around. Why you ran into several screen shots of 16v16 scores I can't answer, but the only time I remember those happening much was when some SGs were trying to get into PvP for the first time and thought the larger numbers would help them (they don't). The larger battles would take a lot more active PvP SGs/VGs to make happen and we just don't have the numbers.

You're right I didn't discover the CEBR variant until long past needing it, but unless there is an outright bug in how the XP is being calculated I don't believe it was possible. Relying on going to the insp vendor each time between runs slows you down significantly.

Ran this tip on two different characters last night and had to kill her 4 times in the first mission and 2 times in the second one.

Feel free to yell at us, I don't know which server we will end up on though it will definitely be PvP

http://www.swtor.com/guilds/3975/lords-dead

I'm confused, this will have a minimal (if any) affect on PL'ing but everyone here seems to be happy that the developers put resources into a change that only affects a very small slice of the PL'ing population. It really only affects people who wanted to self PL a /FA or /Elec brute which NEVER resulted in going 1-50 in several hours.

Yeah, I got that Mad, that's what I was talking about. Another big difference is that virtually all of the matches took place on test so SGs from all servers could compete against each other.

As was noted earlier in the thread this change only hits people self-pling CEBR missions. It won't change my farming one iota nor slow down pl runs. Until a couple of days ago I didn't even notice that there was an insp vendor right outside of the AE terminals. The ambush change also doesn't do anything since I cap after the second ambush anyhow.

I think the main cause was the shrinking of the organized PvP population after I13. There just aren't many/any/enough SG's and VG's that are focused on PvP or have enough of their members that are. A big part of that was also the failure of base raids and the whole objects of power. Another is that there is exactly 0 official recognition for a PvP focused group to hang their hat on. All of that combined means that most of the good (and even decent) PvP'ers are known as individuals rather than members of a SG/VG.