Using Trial Acct to PL ...
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Posted on: 2011-11-25 17:57 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
Well for the 400 points I'd think a few of the store IOs would probably be the most useful (I assume Premium accounts can use those without invention access). If you get a few of the special global ones that could be pretty useful.
You'll probably wanna go with claws or SS paired with /Fire. Demon farm in PI if you don't end up with AE access.
Fire/kins are still quite viable without IO's
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This. Demon Farms are still just as rewarding as they were before the AE launched.|
Originally Posted by SinisterDirge
Fire/kins are still quite viable without IO's
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I'm a big fan of Fire/Kin/Fire for damage and survivability, and I don't even farm!
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Arch/MM or arch/EM and the maiden farm. Assuming its still available... boost range + rain of arrows = dead warriors very fast.
Fire/Kin trollers dont need any IOs to be effective farmers.
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Once you get it to 50, you can use AE to PL your mains with. The freebie account won't get any rewards in AE, but it is able to use AE at tier 2.
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Originally Posted by GATE-keeper
OK, so I'm thinking about setting up a trial account toon solely for the purpose of using it to PL toons on my main account.
Other than buying 400 points to get the trial account to Tier 2 (for SG access), <snip> Also, what in game farm (remember, no AE) would you recommend this trial toon be parked at? |
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Yep this is what I do, though I was wondering what the best strategy is now that ambushes have been nerfed?
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Originally Posted by StarGeek
Once you get it to 50, you can use AE to PL your mains with. The freebie account won't get any rewards in AE, but it is able to use AE at tier 2.
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There are no more trial accounts.
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effective is relative.
without incarnates, pl'ing slows down to i12 speeds.
and at that point, it barely makes sense.
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I'm relatively certain that the OP is talking about either a premium account or a free to play account.
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Originally Posted by Aneko
There are no more trial accounts.
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Remember that controllers (and MMs) are locked for Premium accounts.
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All IOs require either VIP status, a high enough rewards tier, or an invention license to get any benefit from them. Nothing i've seen anywhere suggests that store bought IOs are any different.
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Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood
Well for the 400 points I'd think a few of the store IOs would probably be the most useful (I assume Premium accounts can use those without invention access). If you get a few of the special global ones that could be pretty useful.
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Tier 5 unlocks Controllers, which is quite a lot more than the OP has said they want to spend, but they can be unlocked for 1200 points, which admittedly is also more than the OP wants to spend.
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Originally Posted by Grouchybeast
Remember that controllers (and MMs) are locked for Premium accounts.
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Indeed they are. I change my recommendation to second the ss/fire brute.
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Originally Posted by Grouchybeast
Remember that controllers (and MMs) are locked for Premium accounts.
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Store bought enhancements aren't technically IOs, and do not require VIP status or an Invention license to use.|
Originally Posted by Schismatrix
All IOs require either VIP status, a high enough rewards tier, or an invention license to get any benefit from them. Nothing i've seen anywhere suggests that store bought IOs are any different.
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This is working as intended and has been confirmed by a red name post. Can't find the reference at the moment but I'm fairly sure it was one of the community team responding to a question about them.
I've used a Claws/Fire for this and it works well. Half the time I'm wishing I was using a SS/Fire to deal with the difficulty of building a large +dam bonus, but I'm sure if I was using an SS/Fire I would be wising for Cardiac Alpha...
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i noticed the merit vendor has IO and market licences available for 180 merits each. so apparently for 360 reward merits per month you can pretty much do anything with a free account outside of incarnates|
Originally Posted by GATE-keeper
Other than buying 400 points to get the trial account to Tier 2 (for SG access), I have no intention of spending any money on the account. So I'll probably not have access to Inventions, AE, or WW. |
though you may have some influence limitations
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Do Incarnate powers really make that much difference? Your standard farmer is mowing down tons of weaker mobs rather than fighting the sort of thing that Reactive procs will have time to add up on, so as long as you use a build that doesn't require Cardio and can survive without a Destiny buff the only thing you're missing out on is the level shift and a bit of recharge or damage. That will make you PL faster, but I can't see it making such a huge difference as to make non-Incarnate PLing worthless.|
Originally Posted by recalx
effective is relative.
without incarnates, pl'ing slows down to i12 speeds. and at that point, it barely makes sense. |
Incarnate abilities certainly increase the variety of characters that can farm well, but I don't see them making the old pre-Incarnate farming builds that much faster.
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Yeah, don't forget about a giant nuke every minute and a half or that you can boost recharge by a massive amount which makes you farm far faster on top of IOs/procs/interface plus having all of that stuff (except recharge) on cimeroran/warwork pets crushing enemies within seconds.|
Originally Posted by StrykerX
Do Incarnate powers really make that much difference? Your standard farmer is mowing down tons of weaker mobs rather than fighting the sort of thing that Reactive procs will have time to add up on, so as long as you use a build that doesn't require Cardio and can survive without a Destiny buff the only thing you're missing out on is the level shift and a bit of recharge or damage. That will make you PL faster, but I can't see it making such a huge difference as to make non-Incarnate PLing worthless.
Incarnate abilities certainly increase the variety of characters that can farm well, but I don't see them making the old pre-Incarnate farming builds that much faster. |
There is actually quite a big difference.
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I have to disagree, the extra nukes are nice to haves but not required for PL'ing. Getting a character to 50 in less than 15 hours is very doable today PL'ing with a premium account.
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Thanks everyone for your responses. I think I'll go with Claws/Fire; as someone mentioned earlier, SS/Fire will probably run into End problems without IO's.
When farming for expeez, is it better to have Bosses on or off? Also, is -1 player level faster xp/min than higher settings?
(I have no intention of using this setup to PL toons from 1-50, I only intend to get a toon up two or three levels. For instance, if I want a toon on my main acct to run a particular WST, but the toon is a few levels too low, then I'll do this.)
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If this is the case, it would probably be faster to run Death from Below.|
Originally Posted by GATE-keeper
(I have no intention of using this setup to PL toons from 1-50, I only intend to get a toon up two or three levels. For instance, if I want a toon on my main acct to run a particular WST, but the toon is a few levels too low, then I'll do this.)
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As for bosses on or off... Its been awhile since I have done anything on SO's but as long as you can survive long enough to deliver enough damage to kill them, bosses are good xp.
OK, so I'm thinking about setting up a trial account toon solely for the purpose of using it to PL toons on my main account.
Other than buying 400 points to get the trial account to Tier 2 (for SG access), I have no intention of spending any money on the account. So I'll probably not have access to Inventions, AE, or WW.
With that in mind, what would you recommend as an AT and powersets?
Also, what in game farm (remember, no AE) would you recommend this trial toon be parked at?
I was thinking Claws/WP broot and using the Harvey Maylor farm. Do you have any better suggestions?
Also, what can I get for 400 points that would be useful for this toon?
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