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Originally Posted by Sentry4 View Post
I'm not MA/WP, i'm MA/Regen
Well that means you're either slow on clicking the heals or you just didn't take them, because I don't recall seeing you healing at all.


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Well that means you're either slow on clicking the heals or you just didn't take them, because I don't recall seeing you healing at all.

Yea the sad truth was i was used both heals and MoG, then demonic and still died. I'm not sure how, i havn't died in demonic for a long time, or eye of the something blue side. Well there were 2 thug MMs, both used gang war, i know u phased for awhile to get ur health back which was a little break since now of the pets or heavies could touch us, but cleo (if i'm correct was the other MM) killed the squishies and then i was in the middle of the entire mess with the heavy. It might have nuked me, or even just hit me with a melee attack as those really hurt.

Again, it was pretty fast so i missed what was happening. So i switched to my Blaster and started TPing both of you :P


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PvP Redux is discontinued, for obvious reasons. Thanks to everyone who helped and joined.

 

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Originally Posted by Sentry4 View Post
Again, it was pretty fast so i missed what was happening. So i switched to my Blaster and started TPing both of you :P
Amusing how you talk about "honor" and "coward playstyles" yet you have no issues whatsoever TPing an MM into midair (failing, I might add - oranges help a lot with that kind of stuff) and then TPing away as quickly as possible once you get grounded.

Get wrecked.


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"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."

 

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Dear Sentry,

Will you pahleeese shutup?

Respectfully,
Southern


 

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These fight clubbers are extremely resistant. They refuse to obey the laws and continue with their protests on the boards. I believe we need to step up law enforcement and show no mercy for these violators.


 

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Originally Posted by I Like Apples View Post
These fight clubbers are extremely resistant. They refuse to obey the laws and continue with their protests on the boards. I believe we need to step up law enforcement and show no mercy for these violators.
Fightclubbers are a foul stain upon society's wellbeing. This is the very reason we must be strong in these times of peril.


 

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Originally Posted by macskull View Post
Amusing how you talk about "honor" and "coward playstyles" yet you have no issues whatsoever TPing an MM into midair (failing, I might add - oranges help a lot with that kind of stuff) and then TPing away as quickly as possible once you get grounded.

Get wrecked.

i RP all my toons, and agent is as old as the game itself. I play him exactly like the first. Only difference is i don't have a full tray of breakfrees, which i'm somewhat glad they are useless always hated getting them.

Did i TP you out of a duel or something? Last time i checked, TP foe is a power anybody can get and use in PvP. Why did i TP for u in the air? If u were on the ground right away u could run. No Super jump and by the time u hit the ground my snipe has gone off and slug finishes you.

Yea it was funny, when u ran out of oranges i guess u just switched, lol.

Usually when u drop a flier, they super speed away. It's just more frustrating with me because i TP. Perma travel surpression is hard without a toggle on me, so i can TP away from basically anything. Webbing me is basically the same as TPing me into 20 trip mines. I'm not gonna stick around to watch what happens when it's so obvious.

And hey, they got me yesterday. Wasn't actually angry but impressed they got past. 1 webbed, and did ET while another ASed. It's fine because i know to fix that so it won't happen again anyway.

Agent is a weak toon. He can't do hell in a fair fight. Ryu is stronger and can take people out with multiple enemies on him so he sticks around. Also after they go thru all my heals, MoG, IH, demonic and things. It would be rude to just run to base, they worked for probably 5 mins just attacking me. How would running help? Would i get more kills? no. I don't really see the point. But agent can be taken down in seconds and he has a reputation of not dieing.


@Sentry4 @Sentry 4

PvP Redux is discontinued, for obvious reasons. Thanks to everyone who helped and joined.

 

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This thread has gone way off topic..... Are you guys still recruiting?


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Originally Posted by Sentry4 View Post
i RP when i pvp, which explains why im bad and come whining on the forums.

Did i TP you out of a duel or something? Last time i checked, TP foe is a power anybody can get and use in PvP, but you have to go to a vendor to buy inspirations so theyre not fair and those are the rules so if you dont follow them youre bad.

Usually when u drop a flier, they super speed away. It's just more frustrating with me because i dont want to actually fight someone unless i can win so i just run away. I'm not gonna stick around to lose so ill just run away instead.

And hey, they got me yesterday. Wasn't actually angry but impressed they got past. 1 webbed, and did ET while another ASed. It's fine because i know to fix that so it won't happen again anyway.

Agent is a weak toon. He can't win at all so i just bring him into the zones so people can laugh at me when i run away. Ryu is stronger and can take people out with multiple enemies on him so he sticks around because i can beat other baddo fiteklubbers. Also after they go thru all my heals, MoG, IH, demonic and things. It would be rude to just run to base, they worked for probably 5 mins just attacking me even though all the heals and MoG and IH and magus are a joke and it wouldnt take a skilled player 5 minutes to beat me. How would running help? Would i get more kills? no. I don't really see the point. But agent can be taken down in seconds and he has a reputation of not dieing because i tp away as soon as i realize im bad and cant beat someone.
Sorry, what? Sounds to me like you won't even bother trying to PvP if you know you can't win, which is exactly why you refuse to move or use inspirations or do any of the things a halfway competent PvPer does. Instead of actually *gasp* learning from your opponents, you choose to simply ignore them and TP away if you can't win a fight (and you couldn't even beat an MM TPd out of bodyguard mode even after he took half his health in fall damage, lolz).

Oh, as an aside: I had 16 oranges and 4 greens on me that day, used two oranges, got bored, and went back to Freedom where there was actual PvP.


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Sentry4 i didnt read your long post because i am partially retarded but please stop complaining and obey the law.


 

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Exchange cadet from Pluton in services of FC Police reporting:

This was certanly hard case. Unfortunately i couldn't finish human psychology course before department to the Earth so my knowledge wasn't enough to help this criminal individuum. Throughfull analyze is needed. Rquesting reinforcement.

Log:

Local] Kuyver 99: dueling
[Local] Kuyver 99: d
[Local] Kuyver 99: please don't
[Local] Kuyver 99: going to duel
[Tell] Kuyver 99: can you please let us duel?
[Tell] -->Kuyver 99: FC is illegal!
[Tell] Kuyver 99: please
[Tell] Kuyver 99: will you please let us duel frost elf d?
[Tell] -->Kuyver 99: FC is illegal!
[Tell] -->Kuyver 99: use arena lol
[Tell] Kuyver 99: 5 zones to arena and back
[Tell] -->Kuyver 99: i attack when where and what i want in pvp zone
[Tell] Kuyver 99: I'm asking very nicely
[Tell] -->Kuyver 99: do i care?
[Tell] -->Kuyver 99: like honestly
[Tell] Kuyver 99: guess not
[Tell] Adorable's W:
[Local] Sneaky Sushi: hai
[Local] Sneaky Sushi: you are under ARREST!!!
[Local] Adorable's W: Sushie
[Local] Adorable's W: Shushi
[Local] Adorable's W: Can we just duel
[Tell] Adorable's W: you do know we are dueling right now so you are underarrest
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: lol
[Tell] Adorable's W: F***ing retard
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: i popped insps
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: :P
[Tell] Adorable's W: Idc about that I just want to have fun
[Tell] Adorable's W: And the way I want that is by dueling Kuyver
[Tell] Adorable's W: Why ruin it?
[Tell] Adorable's W: What will you gain?
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: fun?
[Tell] Adorable's W: Exacgtly
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: i am tired of you Fcers
[Tell] Adorable's W: I dont ruin it for you
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: like totally
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: i hate FCers
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: used to be one
[Tell] Adorable's W: I dont know what FCers is
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: but i wouldnt annoy the f** out of ppl with duel me duel me duel me
[Tell] Adorable's W: like totally
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: fight clubber
[Tell] Adorable's W: LOL
[Tell] Adorable's W: No fight club going at at all
[Tell] Adorable's W: Your imagination
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: what do you call it :P
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: fa sho
[Tell] Adorable's W: I am trying to test my ability against
[Tell] Adorable's W: A
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: go to arena
Tell] Adorable's W: Why?
[Tell] Adorable's W: Isnt that fightclubbing?
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: if you dont want to be interrupted
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: i pay 15 bucks
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: to pvp in this game
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: and talk to ppl
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: i come to pvp zone
[Tell] Adorable's W: SO do I LOL
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: and kill what i want
[Tell] Adorable's W: So why cant I duel?
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: i dont go against the rules
[Tell] Adorable's W: And either do I
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: if you want to take my right from killing ppl in pvp zone try harder
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: cuz i feel like killing you right now?
[Tell] Adorable's W: Wtf
[Tell] Adorable's W: OMG
[Tell] Adorable's W: I cant talk to you HOLYLY F**K I HATE DUMB PEOPLE
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: rage more lol
[Tell] Adorable's W: Please for me, just go f***ing kill yourself
[Tell] Adorable's W: HOOLLY SH*T
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: LOL
[Tell] Adorable's W: HOLLLLLLLY SH*T
[Tell] Adorable's W: SH*T
[Tell] Adorable's W: SH*T
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: dude just stop i cant laugh anymore lol
[Tell] Adorable's W: Computer broke I punched it
[Tell] Adorable's W: LAOLDADADADA
[Tell] Adorable's W: FUCL
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: o-o
[Tell] Adorable's W: F**K
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: calm down yo
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: just a game O
[Tell] Adorable's W: It was ajoke
[Tell] Adorable's W: Exactly, just a game
[Tell] Adorable's W: Which I want joy out of
[Tell] Adorable's W: And if my way to get the joy is from 'fcing' Kuyver
[Tell] -->Jakearoo: lol
[Tell] Adorable's W: And the only person blocking me from doing it is you
[Tell] Adorable's W: Which I do not understand why
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: cuz i have fun killing ppl in pvp zine?
[Tell] Adorable's W: So there is a WHOLE different fight going on
[Tell] Adorable's W: Lol?
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: but i feel like killing y<ou hon
[Tell] Adorable's W: There is all the people fighting
[Tell] Adorable's W: Lol
[Tell] Adorable's W: Just please let me duel him
[Tell] Adorable's W: Just go kill the other people
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: go to arena
[Tell] Adorable's W: That arent FCing
[Tell] Adorable's W: Why should we
[Tell] Adorable's W: A pvp zone is for PvP and I want to PvP 1vs1 for someone
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: there is arena fgor it
[Tell] Adorable's W: So why should you be above the CoH way and stop that
[Tell] Adorable's W: That is not what arena is for
[Tell] Adorable's W: Arena is for PvP too
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: why niot
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: you can even turn off insps there
[Tell] Adorable's W: Just different zones and customizible
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: and make timer on 30 min :P
[Tell] Adorable's W: We only will take a minute
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: you are alone there
[Tell] Adorable's W: No need to go over there
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: you do realize
[Tell] Adorable's W:
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: you argu with me for so long
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: that in this time you could have dueled him 10 times in arena lol
[Tell] Adorable's W: and I could have dueled him here 1 hour ago
[Tell] Adorable's W: But you are stopping me
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: dont wanna get attacked
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: go to arena
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: or leave ppv zone
[Tell] Adorable's W: Why are you the Coh Law
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: nah
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: i do what game allows me
[Tell] Adorable's W: Making demands
[Tell] Adorable's W: And I could have not dueled him in arena at all
Tell] Adorable's W: Liek 10 times you say
[Tell] Adorable's W: i am getting an update every 5 minutes
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: you could have fought him at least 1 time for sure :P
[Tell] Adorable's W: On my computer
[Tell] Adorable's W: It could take
[Tell] Adorable's W: 5minutes just to load
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: do i care?
[Tell] Adorable's W: With the way my internet goes
[Tell] Adorable's W: No
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: you have orange name
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: i am in ppv zone
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: eventually i would attack you
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: deal with it
[Tell] Adorable's W: Please just be nice for 5 minutes and let us duel?
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: no?
[Tell] Adorable's W: Mt
[Tell] Adorable's W: Mt mt
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: LOL
[Tell] Adorable's W: That is all I am asking
[Tell] Adorable's W: Dont see why you have to be so disrespectful for
[Tell] Adorable's W: Other players
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: you dont have my past
[Tell] Adorable's W: I dont
[Tell] Adorable's W: I am looking for the future
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: maybe you werent so annyoed by FCers and their retarded rules
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: yes i look for the future too
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: i make it now+
[Tell] Adorable's W: Then move on
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: i destroy FC and make ppl use arena gg
[Tell] Adorable's W: Why though
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: lol
[Local] Adorable's W: We havent even fought yet lol
[Local] Adorable's W: No FC going on you dumba**
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: so whut
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: you make it fun
[Tell] Adorable's W: Reported
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: good luck
[Tell] Adorable's W: Do you pop?
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: yup
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: reds
[Tell] Adorable's W: Oh no wonder lol
[Tell] Adorable's W: Wanna duel in arena?
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: hmm
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: not now
[Tell] Adorable's W: Um why not?
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: cuz i feel like playing in zone?
[Tell] Adorable's W: You arent actually playing in zone
[Tell] Adorable's W: Just annoying Kuyver and myself
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: i dont think you have right to tell me how to play in zone lol
[Tell] Adorable's W: So far I havent seen you attack anyone else
[Tell] Adorable's W: But you do?
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: i actually did lol
[Tell] Adorable's W: You do
[Tell] Adorable's W: LOL
[Tell] Adorable's W: I really hate dumb people
[Tell] Adorable's W: And people that think they are right all the time
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: i didnt say i had absolute right
[Tell] Adorable's W: I dont have the right but you do
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: i simply play a game the way i want it and in the room of rules
[Tell] Adorable's W: yeah you have the right to say who can pvp who
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: i didnt say this
[Tell] Adorable's W: Welcome to ignore
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: but i do have right attack you or any other person in pvp zone :P
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: woot
[Tell] Adorable's W: Disrespectful b*tch
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: LOL
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: i could petition you like 5 times already btw
[Tell] -->Adorable's W: for harassment

EnD of report.


Note: offending words were changed *-symbols (i don't wanna get banned). Names were also changed to save identity from the public.


 

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classic


"the reason there are so many sarcastic pvpers is we already had a better version of pvp taken away from us to appease bad players. Back then we chuckled at how bad players came here and whined. If we knew that was the actual voice devs would listen to instead of informed, educated players we probably would have been bigger dicks back then." -ConFlict

 

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i got to apply? wait what?


 

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Numbnuts. This is why the real cops are so testy, having to endure people like this all the time.


 

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The only bad thing about rei's post is it was so ling I ran out of lotion. chaffed about 3/4 of the way in


Duel me.
I will work on my sig pic more when I have time.

 

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Originally Posted by ConFlict View Post
The only bad thing about rei's post is it was so ling I ran out of lotion. chaffed about 3/4 of the way in
yeah sorry dude, maybe i should have cut it somehow idk....@_@


 

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epic hilarity is epic.

My pvp character never duels, but I usually leave the actual
combatants alone. Spectators receive no such benefit, of course.

Nevertheless, after reviewing the offer posted here, I find myself
re-considering my policy. Certainly, my Stalker would not be publicly
affiliated with any organization referring to itself as "Police".

However, it may be mutually beneficial to undertake some occasional
clandestine freelance "work" from time to time as circumstances warrant.
My contact agent for such "assignments" should be fairly intuitive for
astute Jupiterian Investigators such as I'm seeing here.

I will consider this possibility as my Stalker (L35) on Freedom expands
his nefarious undertakings. Regards.

PS> I was never here...

<Placate>


I've been rich, and I've been poor. Rich is definitely better.
Light is faster than sound - that's why some people look smart until they speak.
For every seller who leaves the market dirty stinkin' rich,
there's a buyer who leaves the market dirty stinkin' IOed. - Obitus.

 

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rofl - somebody actually gave me negative rep for this thread.

Talk about giving me an easy decision....

So, to the spineless wingnut that did that ... Congratulations!

Your ill-considered action turned an amusing rp thread into a guarantee
that I *will* actively hunt and kill any RV FiteClubbers I find, at my
sole discretion.

Rest assured that for each one of them I send to the hospital, I will smile,
drink their tears and think very fondly of you... Well Played!

To members of the FC Police - I still will not be actively affiliated with a
"police organization", but consider any FC Prevention work I do as my gift
to you - on the house...


I've been rich, and I've been poor. Rich is definitely better.
Light is faster than sound - that's why some people look smart until they speak.
For every seller who leaves the market dirty stinkin' rich,
there's a buyer who leaves the market dirty stinkin' IOed. - Obitus.

 

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Originally Posted by Sentry4 View Post
People are supposed to be civil. And this is probably one reason the devs don't repect the pvp community, and it's a reason i dont.

It all comes down to, your telling us to go to the arena to duel. But we don't want to go all the way to the arena to duel, we want to share the place. So, you attack us and form groups to stop dueling. Isn't it obvious who the villain of the piece is? Really, we're peaceful, on our own dueling, and you come and kill us.
I'm sorry, but this is absurd.

Sentry, people with your attitude are a contributing factor to why I don't even bother with PVP zones anymore. Zones are for open PVP, and fight clubs undermine that. I've seen them completely extinguish open PVP in an open PVP zone, changing it into little more than a glorified arena.

That's inconsiderate to everyone who isn't there to duel. There is a whole system in this game to accommodate dueling--the Arena--but, because you're too lazy to use it, because it's out of your way, you expect others--players who've gone to a zone to engage in play the zone is specifically designed for--to abide by your special rules and conditions, put aside their own preferences, and sit around while you have your fun?

That's not "sharing" the place. That's co-opting it. And yah, that's gunna tick people off or just drive them away.

Seems to me, you're the one who's disrespectful here. Seems to me that, if you're going to duel in a PVP zone, you shouldn't expect any special accommodations. And if you do expect them, you're the one being discourteous and selfish.

So, wanna complain about people breaking up your fight clubs? Fine. But please... stop trying to paint your position as the civil, respectful, and thoughtful one. It isn't...

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Your trying to make us work for something we don't have too.
If you want to duel with a guarantee that there will be no interruption or outside interference, yes, you have to go to the Arena. That's what it's there for.

PVP Zones do not belong to you. Your convenience does not supersede the purpose and intended dynamic of the zone. Your special rules are a disruption to that dynamic and purpose, run counter to it, and no participant has to abide by them. More importantly, if they choose not to recognize your rules, that doesn't make them inconsiderate. They're using the zone as it's intended to be used. There is nothing wrong with that.

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It's somewhat brutish to attack someone for no reason aside from getting them mad.
It is implicit by entering into a PVP zone that you consent to engaging in open PVP. If you do not want to engage in open PVP, do not enter a PVP zone.

If the zones were full of people, this would be a non-issue. But they're not. So trying to co-opt an open PVP zone for something other than open PVP is a disservice to those who're there to engage in open PVP.

In short, it's rude.

By the way, congratulations. I don't think I've ever posted in a PVP thread before, but your routine got me to do so. I wanted to make it clear to you that your behavior is part of what's keeping some people, myself included, out of PVP zones. To me, you're just as self-absorbed and inconsiderate as some of the folks you're chastising from your high horse.


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Get wrecked, fiteklubbers.


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"One day we all may see each other elsewhere. In Tyria, in Azeroth. We may pass each other and never know it. And that's sad. But if nothing else, we'll still have Rhode Island."

 

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Originally Posted by Hydrophidian View Post
I'm sorry, but this is absurd.

Sentry, people with your attitude are a contributing factor to why I don't even bother with PVP zones anymore. Zones are for open PVP, and fight clubs undermine that. I've seen them completely extinguish open PVP in an open PVP zone, changing it into little more than a glorified arena.

That's inconsiderate to everyone who isn't there to duel. There is a whole system in this game to accommodate dueling--the Arena--but, because you're too lazy to use it, because it's out of your way, you expect others--players who've gone to a zone to engage in play the zone is specifically designed for--to abide by your special rules and conditions, put aside their own preferences, and sit around while you have your fun?

That's not "sharing" the place. That's co-opting it. And yah, that's gunna tick people off or just drive them away.

Seems to me, you're the one who's disrespectful here. Seems to me that, if you're going to duel in a PVP zone, you shouldn't expect any special accommodations. And if you do expect them, you're the one being discourteous and selfish.

So, wanna complain about people breaking up your fight clubs? Fine. But please... stop trying to paint your position as the civil, respectful, and thoughtful one. It isn't...

If you want to duel with a guarantee that there will be no interruption or outside interference, yes, you have to go to the Arena. That's what it's there for.

PVP Zones do not belong to you. Your convenience does not supersede the purpose and intended dynamic of the zone. Your special rules are a disruption to that dynamic and purpose, run counter to it, and no participant has to abide by them. More importantly, if they choose not to recognize your rules, that doesn't make them inconsiderate. They're using the zone as it's intended to be used. There is nothing wrong with that.

It is implicit by entering into a PVP zone that you consent to engaging in open PVP. If you do not want to engage in open PVP, do not enter a PVP zone.

If the zones were full of people, this would be a non-issue. But they're not. So trying to co-opt an open PVP zone for something other than open PVP is a disservice to those who're there to engage in open PVP.

In short, it's rude.

By the way, congratulations. I don't think I've ever posted in a PVP thread before, but your routine got me to do so. I wanted to make it clear to you that your behavior is part of what's keeping some people, myself included, out of PVP zones. To me, you're just as self-absorbed and inconsiderate as some of the folks you're chastising from your high horse.

Rules? I’m not stating it’s a rule that you cannot attack me. I’m asking politely not to attack me and you are. If you walk into a zone and 30 people are duelers, it’s very very selfish to start breaking it all up? Don’t you agree?

I enter a PvP zone to duel. Why? Because everyone to duel is there. Let’s say I did what all of you say and go to the arena. Nobody would show up and I wouldn’t get fights. Let’s say I went to the zone and challenged someone to the arena, the most probably answer is “no” because it’s far away and a lot of loading times.

My ONLY choice is to challenge them there. Except your taking away the only choice I have because your selfish and aggressive.

I’m glad all my opinions and words are keeping you out, because I wouldn’t be surprised if you came in and stopped on my of my duels.

PvP zones don’t belong to anybody (yea I mean you con). I don’t go in and say “hey, nobody attack me, I’m dueling!” that would be ignorant, I agree. But going in, dueling and if someone tried to step in I say, “hey we’re just trying to duel here” that’s fine.

I guess you don’t see it, but not everybody likes getting ganked or ganking. Really, I’m not sure how that’s fun to you. Me and a lot of other people only enjoy fair duels. I wouldn’t step into a pvp zone except for the reason above, nobody is just sitting in the arena.

If zones are meant for open PvP, why can we duel? If we *can* duel in zones, we were *meant* to duel in zones. If I can do a handstand I was meant to do a handstand. You can look at it from both sides, but as an example I used in another thread, I believe humans were meant to fly because they were given the intellect to build machines that can fly. If it *can* happen it was *meant* to happen.

All I’m asking is you guys go play over there, and we’re gunna play over there. The only argument you have is everybody leaves your area, comes to mine and you get all mad. Leave us alone.

“special accommodations”

I’m not asking you to lay in [rest] in front of me and let me kill you. I’m not asking for you to do anything that would take away from you. If you had the power to leave me completely alone and it wouldn’t take anything from you, would you? Apparently your too selfish.

The purpose of the zone keeps dropping itself into this zone. Arena is duels and FFA. PvP zones is meant for duels and FFA.

I’ve done FFA in arena, only fun part I had was when everybody was on one side and a tank was fighting my brute. It was basically a tie so a bunch of people jumped in.

So apparently I’m wrecking the game for you because I was to be left alone to test my ability against someone else.

The original rules WERE NOT FUN, so we placed our own. I understand not everybody likes them, but that doesn’t mean you should hate on the players that enjoy us. Really, if so many people are dueling that it kills the zone, that shows what the people want. You shouldn’t mess it up for everyone. If only 4 people are dueling, you have other people to kill, I’m asking you to fight those who want too. I’m forced to enter the zone for duels. As explained above I have no other choices.


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If I *can* kill any opposing force in the zone, dueling or not, then I was *meant* to kill any opposing force in the zone, dueling or not.

If your duels *can* be interrupted, then your duels were *meant* to be interrupted. In the arena, your duels can not be interrupted. Therefor, they were not meant to be interrupted in the arena.


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The original rules WERE NOT FUN, so we placed our own. I understand not everybody likes them
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The original rules were designed to give everybody an equal footing as long as they built well and played smart, but we didn't like getting our ***** handed to us by people better than us so instead of trying to get better we imposed rules upon ourselves to make us look good. This is exactly why we get butthurt when people who can actually PvP keep killing us over and over.
Congratulations. I simply fail to understand why people get all worked up when someone attacks them in a zone that's specifically designed for player vs player combat just because they broke some imaginary rule that no one has to adhere to. It's not about respect, it's not about honor, it's about the rules of the game as they were imposed by the programmers. I don't see any options to disable inspirations or disallow leaving the fighting area, or even to deny all teammate buffs, yet you people insist that these rules exist. The only place you can guarantee you're not going to get interrupted is the arena, yet you refuse to go there because it's "too far away" (nevermind that most people have the Pocket D teleporter so the arena's really only one button click and a zone load away, and you can set whatever options you want once you're there). You also say that you can't find people - there's a channel dedicated to the arena, perhaps you've heard of it. In short, you have absolutely no right to complain or be offended that people are trying to PvP you in a zone designed solely for the purpose of open PvP.

Lucky for you guys, the /arenalist command coming in I16 means you don't even have to load into Pocket D - you can bring up the arena interface, select your options, invite the other person, teleport right into a match, and when you're done you'll come out right where you were before. Amusingly I don't even see your kind using that option, so you'll still continue to come to the boards and whine about how life is so unfair even though you refuse to use the tools available to you.


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^ i dont mind losing, i've explained that before. i'll go read the rest of what u said, but i think ima move over to kings thread and do what i do best there.


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Rules? I’m not stating it’s a rule that you cannot attack me. I’m asking politely not to attack me and you are.
I'm not attacking you at all. Again: I don't bother with open PVP zones anymore. One of the reasons why is people such as yourself who insist on using them as if they were something other than open PVP zones.

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If you walk into a zone and 30 people are duelers, it’s very very selfish to start breaking it all up? Don’t you agree?
No, I don't agree. And this is the very point I made in the last post. It's not selfish to try to use the zone in the manner it was intended to be used. It is selfish to expect everyone to abide by your standards, rather than the games' standards, and restrict their play because it's more convenient for you.

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I enter a PvP zone to duel. Why? Because everyone to duel is there. Let’s say I did what all of you say and go to the arena. Nobody would show up and I wouldn’t get fights. Let’s say I went to the zone and challenged someone to the arena, the most probably answer is “no” because it’s far away and a lot of loading times.
That's fine. If you don't want to contend with how "far away" the Arena is or the loading times, and instead opt to duel in open PVP zones, accept that people might attack you. Because it is an open PVP zone.

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Except your taking away the only choice I have because your selfish and aggressive.
I'm doing nothing of the kind, nor is anyone else. You've chosen not to use the arena. Having to deal with people who're using open PVP zones for open PVP is the consequence of that choice. You do not have a leg to stand on when you try to claim that they are the ones behaving inappropriately. You are the one choosing to reject the system designed to accommodate your playstyle. It is the height of arrogance to expect everyone else to cater to you.

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I’m glad all my opinions and words are keeping you out, because I wouldn’t be surprised if you came in and stopped on my of my duels.
I never interrupted a duel. Please stop making convenient assumptions.

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PvP zones don’t belong to anybody (yea I mean you con). I don’t go in and say “hey, nobody attack me, I’m dueling!” that would be ignorant, I agree. But going in, dueling and if someone tried to step in I say, “hey we’re just trying to duel here” that’s fine.
And it's also fine for someone in an open PVP zone to say: 'Well, I don't recognize duels and special conditions'... which is the part you don't seem to get.

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I guess you don’t see it, but not everybody likes getting ganked or ganking.
I don't like getting "ganked". This has nothing to do with "ganking". Straw man.

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Me and a lot of other people only enjoy fair duels.
And a lot of people enjoy open PVP. The problem is when you start assuming your preferences supersede those of everyone else, in a zone designed to accommodate what they enjoy, because it's too much bother for you to use the system designed for what you enjoy.

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I wouldn’t step into a pvp zone except for the reason above, nobody is just sitting in the arena.
No, they're not. There is, however, an Arena channel. I realize you'd like to make this out to be a situation wherein you've no options. But you do. You are not forced to use PVP zones for your duels. You choose to do so. And there are consequences that come along with that. My issues start with your apparent attitude that you ought not have to contend with those consequences.

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If zones are meant for open PvP, why can we duel?
Go right ahead and duel... with the understanding that your duel may be interrupted, and that such interruption is part of the intended zone gameplay and dynamic. No one is doing anything wrong by interrupting you.

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If we *can* duel in zones, we were *meant* to duel in zones.
Oh, well, by that reasoning, you must agree that duels were meant to be interrupted. Because we can interrupt them.

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All I’m asking is you guys go play over there, and we’re gunna play over there.
No, you're not just asking for special accommodations. If that were the extent of it, I wouldn't be posting in this thread. The problem is, you demand them, and carry on as if it's a given that people who don't acquiesce to your conditions are somehow being rude.

It is not rude to engage in open PVP in an open PVP zone. The conditions of an open PVP zone are stated every time you enter it.

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I’m not asking for you to do anything that would take away from you.
But you are, which you don't seem to grasp. Asking me not to openly PVP in a zone meant for open PVP rather defeats the purpose of me being there.

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If you had the power to leave me completely alone and it wouldn’t take anything from you, would you? Apparently your too selfish.
I realize you really want to believe that I'd attack you, because it helps your rationalizations to imagine me as "aggressive and selfish". But, even if I bothered with open PVP anymore, I wouldn't attack you.

You just can't lump me in with everyone else in this thread (which is partially why I decided to jump into it), so you're going to have to abandon all the personal condemnations. They don't apply to me.

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So apparently I’m wrecking the game for you because I was to be left alone to test my ability against someone else.
No, there is no "apparently". The issue is exactly as I stated it in the previous post, and does not require you to reword and/or reinterpret it. I no longer bother with open PVP zones. Part of the reason why is fight clubs.

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I’m forced to enter the zone for duels.
No, really, you're not. If you were, this'd be a completely different story, which I'm sure is why you're trying to frame it that way. But no, you're not being forced.


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