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So they pay $30 a month, you pay $15 a month but you want the same benefits as them?
Wow, talk about entitlement issues.
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so u actually agree that if you pay more money you should be able to do things that the devs disagree with and frown upon? that paying more money should allow you to bypass game rules?
interesting.....
Like others have said, "money" isn't really a problem in this game. Sure you may need a ton if you want to purple out a toon, but it's not at all necessary and is only possible once you hit the max level. At that point, you're most likely well-equipped anyway and anything extra is just fluff.
I'd still like some kind of common storage area shared by all your toons though as a QoL feature. There's times I get a recipe on one toon as a drop that I really want on another, and I'd love to be able to transfer it. It's just part of human nature that you view your characters as "you". Getting a drop on one toon, selling it, and then having another toon put in a bid for the exact same one, just goes against the way people think. Also, there was a time or two when I wanted to move money from several different characters to one so that he could get a particularly expensive IO, and it would've been easier had there been a transfer mechanism.
Perhaps a vault that can hold limited mixed items. Six recipes, six enhancements, influence/infamy, and a dozen pieces of salvage. Not big enough to let you hoard things, but still large enough to transfer items or put things aside for just one character.
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So they pay $30 a month, you pay $15 a month but you want the same benefits as them?
Wow, talk about entitlement issues.
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so u actually agree that if you pay more money you should be able to do things that the devs disagree with and frown upon? that paying more money should allow you to bypass game rules?
interesting.....
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Ignoring the fact you can easily bypass the game rules by having friends in the game, or that previously you asked for everyone to be able to transfer money to other toons with maximum convenience, yeah, if someone pays more money, more options tend to open up for them.
This is not an issue concerning people with two accounts, anyway, because, like said before, even single-account people do it plenty times. People with two accounts simply can do it alone. This isn't a privilege or above-the-law thing for double-account people until it becomes completely impossible for people with just one account to do.
Besides, I have yet to see someone who pays twice the money just to be able to transfer inf between toons. If anything, it's an added benefit, not the reason.
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So they pay $30 a month, you pay $15 a month but you want the same benefits as them?
Wow, talk about entitlement issues.
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so u actually agree that if you pay more money you should be able to do things that the devs disagree with and frown upon? that paying more money should allow you to bypass game rules?
interesting.....
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Several incorrect assumptions here that lead to fallacious conclusions. First off, using the Market to transfer inf is neither an abuse nor is it against the rules. The Devs simply don't condone it because there exists the possibility of losing your inf through a poor understanding of how the Market system works. Put simply, if you screw it up because of your own ignorance, because of lack of close attention or bad luck, the Devs are under no obligation to restore your lost inf. That's all. It's use at your own risk, not breaking the rules.
Furthermore, of course people who pay double what you do (second accounts) are going to be able to do things you can't do. This isn't discrimination, it's the way it should be. If I have two accounts, I can trade with myself, make teams with myself, invite myself to SGs - all manner of things are easier. However, none of these things are impossible for the player with a single account or even particularly difficult as the game's community is full of helpful people who happily provide these sorts of services on a regular basis. Yes, there's always the risk of getting burned by a stranger, but common sense steps largely mitigate that risk.
As for 'things the Devs disgree with and frown upon', you don't seem to have a strong grasp of what those things really are. As far as direct Dev statements, those things would be rampant farming (particularly in the MA), PLing and of course cheating/exploits. Of the three, only the last merits unilateral corrective Dev action - the others are generally held in check by curbing the worst excesses using changes to the game (either changing specific missions that are disproportionally farmed or making sweeping changes to the game to prevent abuse of existing systems. Neither farming nor PL is cheating, however, and should not be compared directly to such behavior.
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Perhaps a vault that can hold limited mixed items. Six recipes, six enhancements, influence/infamy, and a dozen pieces of salvage. Not big enough to let you hoard things, but still large enough to transfer items or put things aside for just one character.
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whats interesting is that players who pay twice the subscription fees already have this bonus feature.
its called make an alt character on your second account and name it "storage alt" then transfer stuff to it all you want.
players with second accounts dont even have to stop at making one alt, they can have multitudes of storage alts.
too bad that you need to pay more money for this bonus feature though.....would be nice if everyone could do it also.
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whats interesting is that players who pay twice the subscription fees already have this bonus feature.
its called make an alt character on your second account and name it "storage alt" then transfer stuff to it all you want.
players with second accounts dont even have to stop at making one alt, they can have multitudes of storage alts.
too bad that you need to pay more money for this bonus feature though.....would be nice if everyone could do it also.
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You should just take you ball and GTFO.
I think we see why having a friend help with transfer is a non-starter with the OP.
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
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too bad that you need to pay more money for this bonus feature though.....would be nice if everyone could do it also.
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It's not a bonus feature if you pay twice the subscription fee, and of course people who pay for a second account have access to these abilities. That has nothing to do with YOU.
What's with kids these days? Too hard to actually work for what you want? Instead you have to complain that someone else has more then you or you whine because everything should be the way you want it and want it right now?
Well, they could easily disable that "Bonus feature" by eliminating trading between any characters outside the market. Aside from that can you think of a way to prevent this "Bonus Feature" from occuring?
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I think we see why having a friend help with transfer is a non-starter with the OP.
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Seriously, how did this turn into people with multiple accounts get a benefit the soloist cannot except that someone who has not a single friend they can trust in the game? Sheesh.
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
Of course, the latest gripe about storage is something a solo character with a single account can do just fine (with the exception of recipes) just by having an SG base and making use of the storage there. And, with the exceptions of costume, temp power and respec recipes, there's no reason why such a player couldn't simply craft the recipe and store the crafted IO in the base if he/she wanted to hoard or to transfer to another alt. Place the IO in the bin, log off Character X, log on Character Y , take IO out of the bin. Easy peasy.
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Seriously, how did this turn into people with multiple accounts get a benefit the soloist cannot except that someone who has not a single friend they can trust in the game? Sheesh.
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because im pointing out the ways that players can get around the restrictions of trading infl.
the devs should just realise that players are going to transfer infl between their characters and let everyone do it.
this game has a ridiculous system of making players either get second accounts or find another player to transfer inf or use the market place.
i think this is the only game i can think of that doesnt have an in game mail system of transferring funds between characters. is there any other game that doesnt have mail?
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using two accounts like that isn't a "bonus feature" - it's a fringe benefit of having two accounts.
Just like being able to solo a TF by having your second account be your mandatory #2 member isn't a "bonus" the developers intended you to have, it's just a fringe benefit.
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Meaning "WoW has it so this game should have it too." It's not a ridiculous system, in fact it's a quite easy system to use if you just take the time to either 1) make a friend or 2) learn how to use the Market. If both of those are too difficult, there's always the option to get another account, but you're by no means forced to do so in order to trade inf - you're grossly misrepresenting the situation. It's beyond hyperbole at this point and heading rapidly into wrong.
Would a 'mail' system be a nice QoL addition? Sure, though I'd imagine most players wouldn't have a need to use it often since there's other systems already in place. Should this be a high-priority addition that this game "needs"? No.
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What does this have to do with the thread? Nothing.
Your game account is not a consolidation of all your characters' earnings.
You are holding yourself back by way of the trappings in your head. If you can't take a relatively tiny risk by accepting the offers made by some here to help you in game then you're only causing duress to yourself.
After all this time you've been here you don't have 1 single friend you can trust enough to do a transfer? So sad.
It's too bad you can't change your handle to Silver_Platter_Surfer.
Also, 2 game accounts are 2 separate entities and this in not frowned upon as the transfer operation reflects this since 2 characters from the same account can not be in game at the same time. The term logical springs to mind.
This is not discriminatory in any sense.
I really don't think the devs mind people who have multiple accounts. It's more money in the bank.
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Why in the world is this the only game I've played so far where it's impossible to transfer influence/infamy between YOUR OWN CHARACTERS without needed a stranger to help you out? And even then, let's say you do find someone and that person happens to keep the money or log off, do the GMs even help you out with anything in reimbursements??
How the hell am I supposed to give money to my lowbie toons??
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I transfer influence all the time between my heroes with WW.
I would transfer infamy with my villains on the BM, if they all weren't so poor to begin with.
However, cannot transfer money from a hero to a villain.
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whats interesting is that players who pay twice the subscription fees already have this bonus feature.
its called make an alt character on your second account and name it "storage alt" then transfer stuff to it all you want.
players with second accounts dont even have to stop at making one alt, they can have multitudes of storage alts.
too bad that you need to pay more money for this bonus feature though.....would be nice if everyone could do it also.
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You decide.
He sure seems like Twixt.
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why should people with second accounts get the privilege of trading inf but not players with one account?
if the fact they are paying more money is the only reason then thats sad.
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(shrug) No one cares if you call it "sad". A customer who pays more gets better treatments. That's reality. Look at 'frequent flier' and 'preferred customer' programs.
You must be angry every day with all these 'double standards' everywhere you turn.
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Look, have you TRIED the market system? It is not that hard, and generally as risky as chewing gum while walking. Sure, if you do not pay attention, you might trip and choke, but for the most part it is safe and easy!
C'mon, walk and chew gum. It isn't that risky! 
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So they pay $30 a month, you pay $15 a month but you want the same benefits as them?
Wow, talk about entitlement issues.