today's short rant; seek and destroy this TF
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Ad Astra,
Posted on: 2009-06-23 13:30 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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i personally feel the old tf's and particularly the shard tf's are about as fun as getting my male exclusive bits slamme in a car door, but hey.
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Oh come on, they are a little more fun than that... though I'm not sure, as I have never litterally had my "junk in the trunk" (or car door, whatever) in such a way.
Besides the piddly little badge, i don't get why the posi tf is just avoided all together, though i secretly admit to wanting to try it on a 3 or two man team sometime.
Aslo add me to like/tolerate PK, for being passive aggressive, you're not openly hostile and likeable.
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i personally feel the old tf's and particularly the shard tf's are about as fun as getting my male exclusive bits slamme in a car door, but hey.
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Oh come on, they are a little more fun than that... though I'm not sure, as I have never litterally had my "junk in the trunk" (or car door, whatever) in such a way.
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Actually having run them, I'd have to agree with how painful they all are.
And YES, I said ALL of them. Having one or two maps or missions that are interesting doesn't make up for the idiotic time wasting tedium to get to them.
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Besides the piddly little badge, i don't get why the posi tf is just avoided all together, though i secretly admit to wanting to try it on a 3 or two man team sometime.
Aslo add me to like/tolerate PK, for being passive aggressive, you're not openly hostile and likeable.
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I'm neutral.
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I've been in the 90-minute smooth run with friends, the 14-hour painful run with friends (in about i1 when we were still learning things like 'what are DOs?' Our scrappers would later go on to have three travel powers and no mezz protection by level 25), the 9-hour pain run with a PUG, and the 2-hour smooth run with a full PUG. It's the height of tedium with a team that isn't clicking. In the old days, I'd still run it regularly just for the XP. Now? I just start a team running the Midnighter arc when I hit level 11. That usually gets me near 15 by the end if I keep a team of 8 the full way, it's much less painful, and it's a lot easier to recruit for since everybody wants to be able to get into Cimerora.
Having Vengeance and Fallout slotted for recharge means never having to say you're sorry.
The Posi TF has needed revamped for years, but I see no change in sight. I know none of my characters have run it in probably 2 years, since my badger got it for TF Commander. But, there are people who still run it apparently, so more power to them.
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Is there a column for "Rolls his eyes at you depending on the Thread Subject, but otherwise is amused with you"?
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If not, there should be. Though I guess we could fall under Neutral.
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Can anything scream 'ATTENTION W**RE!!" more loudly?
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Oh, irony. You are thick today.
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Perhaps you should move this sentiment over to the thread where people are posting their cleavage in attempts to get attention; this thread is very small potatos in comparison.
I didn't create the thread in order to discuss myself, post pictures of my cleavage or announce to the forums that I have a list of who likes me, who hates me and who is indifferent to me; I leave such balderdash to Phailed_Komedian. [It would not surprise me in the least were he to post pictures of HIS cleavage in order to stir the Haterade a bit.... but I digress].
This thread is really about the fact that the Positron TF is, at least as far as design goes, truly the definition of... yeah, failure at having fun. And that's all it is. I have heard about this TF for years, and it really is a badly-designed snoozefest.
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And where is this magical cleavage thread?
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Sorry, Forum Cartel only.
Having Vengeance and Fallout slotted for recharge means never having to say you're sorry.
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And where is this magical cleavage thread?
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I killed it by threatening to post a shot of my m00bs.
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You don't need to nuke it from orbit, just stab Posi and you'll have all the splosion you want.
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I can't decide which is worse about the Posi TF, the 4 straight "Run back and forth from one Zone to another Zone and Click on a Person" Missions or the final 4 straight "Defeat All missions".
It's just too long, and too mindless. It could easily be fixed if they cared to, but it's certainly a low priority.
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It's just too long, and too mindless. It could easily be fixed if they cared to, but it's certainly a low priority.
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It's just too long, and too mindless. It could easily be fixed if they cared to, but it's certainly a low priority.
[/ QUOTE ] Which I think is a big mistake. Positron is the first chance people have to do a Task Force. IMO it should be fixed just so people can get a better first impression. I wouldn't blame somebody if they tried Positron and decided that they never wanna do another task force again.
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I wonder how people would respond if they just made Positron a level 45-50 TF?
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This thread is really about the fact that the Positron TF is, at least as far as design goes, truly the definition of... yeah, failure at having fun.
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No, it isn't. If it was, the thread would be "The Posi TF sucks. What can we do to make it better?" or "I think the Posi TF sucks. Does anyone like it, and if so, why?" Such things foster discussion and are interesting.
This thread is "Bad Influence doesn't like Positron and feels the need to tell everyone". As such, calling someone else an attention [censored] in it, regardless of the truth of that statement, is ironic. The presence of larger attention whores doesn't make it any less ironic.
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I wonder how people would respond if they just made Positron a level 45-50 TF?
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"Sure are a lot of greys in this TF."
Having Vengeance and Fallout slotted for recharge means never having to say you're sorry.
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... Bad eyes her newest Object of Hate: the Positron TF.
I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit - its the only way to be sure. Of course, this will involve multiple strikes on Steel, Atlas and Skyway as well, but any collateral damage is worth wiping this TF off the map - permanently.
[Yes we did finish.... gawd what an unenjoyable endurance-test. Take away my Unyielding and I become very grumpy indeed....]
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The Positron TF is annoying and off-putting, as far as I'm concerned. It's one of the most grinding, irritating experiences in the game.
Even when done by a small group of experienced players who know what they're doing, it's still one of the most oppressive activities in the game. I'd rather do any other TF than Positron, to the degree that the only characters that have that TF are my mains and only for the TF commander accolade.
That TF has absolutely no redeeming value whatsoever. It's not fun, it's boring and long, especially if you're lower than 14th. It's not "challenging" it's just plain hard. In a game with so many really awesome, fun TFs this one sticks out like a sore thumb as the one to be avoided at almost any cost.
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I duo this TF in 1:15 minutes consistently. Dont take away my merit maker just because people cant seem to understand running it at lvl 10 in a full group of melee is insane.
Run it in a duo or trio of ranged/support and you too can profit from this badly designed TF!
I seriously cant make close to the merits/hour I make on this TF with anything else, but I understand the design flaws that make this a nightmare for low lvl toons it was actually designed for... but I still loves my easy merits.
so, No.
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This thread is really about the fact that the Positron TF is, at least as far as design goes, truly the definition of... yeah, failure at having fun.
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No, it isn't. If it was, the thread would be "The Posi TF sucks. What can we do to make it better?" or "I think the Posi TF sucks. Does anyone like it, and if so, why?"
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.... The thread title is, in essence, exactly this: just phrased in a way that you personally do not care for.
You'll get over it.
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... Bad eyes her newest Object of Hate: the Positron TF.
I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit - its the only way to be sure. Of course, this will involve multiple strikes on Steel, Atlas and Skyway as well, but any collateral damage is worth wiping this TF off the map - permanently.
[Yes we did finish.... gawd what an unenjoyable endurance-test. Take away my Unyielding and I become very grumpy indeed....]
[/ QUOTE ]have you done a shard task force? i know posi is bad, most of the launch ones are bad, but have you done a shard tf?
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No. I have two people who need to run one in order to get the Rulaaru weapons, but I have honestly never even seen a request to join one of these TFs in Broadcast. All SGs I am part of are far too busy running the ITF to consider it, I guess; I would lobby to change that, but the idea of a 12-hr TF makes my teeth hurt.
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... Bad eyes her newest Object of Hate: the Positron TF.
I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit - its the only way to be sure. Of course, this will involve multiple strikes on Steel, Atlas and Skyway as well, but any collateral damage is worth wiping this TF off the map - permanently.
[Yes we did finish.... gawd what an unenjoyable endurance-test. Take away my Unyielding and I become very grumpy indeed....]
[/ QUOTE ]have you done a shard task force? i know posi is bad, most of the launch ones are bad, but have you done a shard tf?
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No. I have two people who need to run one in order to get the Rulaaru weapons, but I have honestly never even seen a request to join one of these TFs in Broadcast. All SGs I am part of are far too busy running the ITF to consider it, I guess; I would lobby to change that, but the idea of a 12-hr TF makes my teeth hurt.
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The Dr. Quaterfield can be done in 3 hours and 47 minutes with a team of 8 scrappers. 
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Positron is a great task force to duo. Just get a filler to help you start it. 8-man Positrons are terrible. Just...terrible. But those are what keeps the merit reward for it high I guess.
Vahzilok are nasty at Posi's level...well, at any level really. Those zombehs are just big sacks of painful puke. At least they're all brainless meatbags if there aren't any surgeons around to lead them.
CoT are ESPECIALLY nasty. Godawful amounts of Ghosts and bubble/earthquake-dropping Ruin Mages if you're more than 2 people, huzzah!
At least in these days you have temporary travel power packs, portals and the doors aren't in the butt-end of Boomtown or in caves in Perez Park's forested-over areas. I still wouldn't want to do it with a full team though.
Synapse needs cleaned up too. Just make those sub-stations either small maps, or make you only have to clear that map once instead of "ok do same map again. And again."
Can't really complain about the other Phalanxer TFs, really. Shard ones are far worse.
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Most of Posi TFs I ran were on 8 man teams. All were done under 2 hours. As soon as you dealt with 2nd mission, everything else is much easier.
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... Bad eyes her newest Object of Hate: the Positron TF.
I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit - its the only way to be sure. Of course, this will involve multiple strikes on Steel, Atlas and Skyway as well, but any collateral damage is worth wiping this TF off the map - permanently.
[Yes we did finish.... gawd what an unenjoyable endurance-test. Take away my Unyielding and I become very grumpy indeed....]
[/ QUOTE ]have you done a shard task force? i know posi is bad, most of the launch ones are bad, but have you done a shard tf?
A lot of it comes from the original concept of tf's, they were designed with the pnp gamer in mind, as something for people to do over several nights in a fairly static group, well, things change, pugs and badge groups happened, and the redside and subsequent bleuside tf's start being compact, fun and concise. There are those who like the old tf's, much like some pine for the old hami raid, i personally feel the old tf's and particularly the shard tf's are about as fun as getting my male exclusive bits slammed in a car door, but hey.
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I actually like the shard TFs. They can be a pain in the [censored] with a PuG, but they're great with a bunch of folks that do them often or know what to expect.
I realize the irony in my statement, as that's what people say about the Positron TF but ultimately I find that it doesn't matter how small the team is or how experienced when it comes to Posi, it's never fun for me.
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No.
I duo this TF in 1:15 minutes consistently. Dont take away my merit maker just because people cant seem to understand running it at lvl 10 in a full group of melee is insane.
Run it in a duo or trio of ranged/support and you too can profit from this badly designed TF!
I seriously cant make close to the merits/hour I make on this TF with anything else, but I understand the design flaws that make this a nightmare for low lvl toons it was actually designed for... but I still loves my easy merits.
so, No.
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LGTF gives better merit/time ratio
The Shard TFs are much easier with the combination of Mission Teleport and Team recall.
Spread liberally amongst the full team of 8, travel time is barely worth mentioning.
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IMO all TFs should be 4-6 missions and give 20-35 merits based on difficulty and length. That would immediately move people away from farming the TF du jour and get people doing a lot of different content.
Like I tried to say during Issue 13's test, upping the reward will not get people interested in doing TFs. Making them all fun will.
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... Bad eyes her newest Object of Hate: the Positron TF.
I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit - its the only way to be sure. Of course, this will involve multiple strikes on Steel, Atlas and Skyway as well, but any collateral damage is worth wiping this TF off the map - permanently.
[Yes we did finish.... gawd what an unenjoyable endurance-test. Take away my Unyielding and I become very grumpy indeed....]
[/ QUOTE ]have you done a shard task force? i know posi is bad, most of the launch ones are bad, but have you done a shard tf?
A lot of it comes from the original concept of tf's, they were designed with the pnp gamer in mind, as something for people to do over several nights in a fairly static group, well, things change, pugs and badge groups happened, and the redside and subsequent bleuside tf's start being compact, fun and concise. There are those who like the old tf's, much like some pine for the old hami raid, i personally feel the old tf's and particularly the shard tf's are about as fun as getting my male exclusive bits slammed in a car door, but hey.