Devs- Are you too RP-minded?

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What's NGE?

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NGE was the expansion to Star wars galaxies. Its the one that had players protesting on every planet they had defined and had GM's teleporting thousands of players at a shot into space(Which by the way didn't exist yet).

Over their bungling of that incident I think they lost more players than COH ever had. I think the swing was something on the order of from 1 million to somewhere less than 100K .

Damn.

Yeah, you know you're worthless when you can't make a STAR WARS game a success.

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Yeah, you know you're worthless when you can't make a STAR WARS game a success.

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Which is why i'm hoping bioware pulls off SWTOR. Its the only MMO on the horizon I'm excited to see.

There's a lot of misinformation about SWG being slung around in this thread.

SWG never surpassed EQ, for one. It never had near a million. Last I knew, it settled at (these days, I believe) around or slightly more than Cities.

I'm hazy on the precise cause and effect of the NGE, but it was either Lucasarts pressuring Sony to make it more actiony, or Sony making an attempt (and, despite all the bad press you hear about it, succeeding, mind you) at keeping the license by staunching losses.

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There's a lot of misinformation about SWG being slung around in this thread.

SWG never surpassed EQ, for one. It never had near a million. Last I knew, it settled at (these days, I believe) around or slightly more than Cities.

I'm hazy on the precise cause and effect of the NGE, but it was either Lucasarts pressuring Sony to make it more actiony, or Sony making an attempt (and, despite all the bad press you hear about it, succeeding, mind you) at keeping the license by staunching losses.

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Before NGE it was actiony. Post NGE took the action away, it made it a typical mmo style gameplay, whereas before you could fire while running or anything. NGE made it so you had to have your crosshair on the target and had no way of attacking anything that may be hitting you from behind unless you were facing it. I much preferred the pre NGE system, it was much more theatrical in the combat spectrum.

The only saving grace of SWG at this point is the combat in space. That is the only fun component these days.

But Sony did also completely botch Matrix Online, as was pointed out too. It's a game I was going to buy and play religiously - until CoH came out on time and Mx didn't. And then it looked worse and worse, as they changed publishers and teams, and then it actually came OUT and was... meh. I wanted to play the game that they originally talked about on the vhs tape.

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I'm hazy on the precise cause and effect of the NGE, but it was either Lucasarts pressuring Sony to make it more actiony, or Sony making an attempt (and, despite all the bad press you hear about it, succeeding, mind you) at keeping the license by staunching losses.




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You are swapping combat upgrade, (CU) with NGE. The one million figure came from what SONY was saying for presales of the NGE.

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But Sony did also completely botch Matrix Online, as was pointed out too. It's a game I was going to buy and play religiously - until CoH came out on time and Mx didn't.

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Misblamed, there. Keep in mind that WB sold it to Sony months after release...

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But Sony did also completely botch Matrix Online, as was pointed out too. It's a game I was going to buy and play religiously - until CoH came out on time and Mx didn't. And then it looked worse and worse, as they changed publishers and teams, and then it actually came OUT and was... meh. I wanted to play the game that they originally talked about on the vhs tape.

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I had a subscription to the Station Pass for about 3 years. I've played EQ, EQ2, MXO, SWG, Planetside. Matrix has a lot to be desired. I found it extremely boring and nothing like I expected.

The combat system is very different than other mmos. When you fight you don't have direct control of the movements. Your character will dodge or punch or duck as the movements of the opponent dictate. All you really do is enhance each move as its made. I didn' care for it that much and it took me a few days to even figure it out. I needed some help from more advanced players to explain the more detailed portions of combat that I wasn't understanding as well.

The tutorial was marginal at best in introducing the major gameplay features. I wasn't happy with it at all.

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But Sony did also completely botch Matrix Online, as was pointed out too. It's a game I was going to buy and play religiously - until CoH came out on time and Mx didn't.

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Misblamed, there. Keep in mind that WB sold it to Sony months after release...

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True, but it was sony that completely changed the combat system mid stride further alienating the player base that was already used to the WB system.

Which one? To my knowledge (again, I admit it's mostly limited, I didn't play it for more than a couple of months outside of beta), the major combat changes got reverted.

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Which one? To my knowledge (again, I admit it's mostly limited, I didn't play it for more than a couple of months outside of beta), the major combat changes got reverted.

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I probably quit playing before that point. I had started just after the combat changes and everyone was griping about it. I learned in the new combat era but didn't play more than a few months because I didn't like it.

By the time Sony got to it I think their only goal really was to drive the last nails in the coffin

I don't know that it would have been either better OR worse had they not picked it up, because of all the trouble it'd already been through. But it still was one of those things that Sony COULD have really improved, and didn't.

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But Sony did also completely botch everything they've ever touched

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Fixed.

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But Sony did also completely botch everything they've ever touched

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Fixed.

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DAMN that is harsh.

Seriosly harsh. I mean they make their consoles so easy to program for no one has to tinker at em for years to reach full potential.

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Seriosly harsh. I mean they make their consoles so easy to program for no one has to tinker at em for years to reach full potential.

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Seriosly harsh. I mean they make their consoles so easy to program for no one has to tinker at em for years to reach full potential.

[/ QUOTE ] I hope you're joking.

[/ QUOTE ]Is that...Velour?

Is this thread even on topic anymore? Yeesh.

We were talking about Jennifer Connelly, right?

"The One"

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Originally Posted by Infernus_Hades The way you play changes your IO slotting..

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Is this thread even on topic anymore? Yeesh.

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That depends on which point you count from. Its on topic relative to the replies in the last two pages

We have the worst attention spans.

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Seriosly harsh. I mean they make their consoles so easy to program for no one has to tinker at em for years to reach full potential.

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[/ QUOTE ]Is that...Velour?

[/ QUOTE ] You look like a woman who appreciates the finer things in life. Come over here and feel my velour bedspread.