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Most farmers arent asking to abuse the content, only a very small fraction, who the rest don't like anyhow. Theyre asking very reasonably for their playstyle, which tends to favor repeatable missions filled with monsters, to not be treated like its ruining the game. Most farmers agreed that comm officers needed to die a horrible death. Most farmers don't want to burn this game into the ground, but they don't want to play your "masterpieces of arc-ish literature" either.
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But you do realize that the MA was designed as a means to tell "masterpieces of arc-ish literature" and not as a power-leveling or farming-creation tool, right?
I also think you are understating to exaggerate. I don't think anyone has a problem with running a Katie Hannon or even just the Frostfire mission repeatedly to get a couple of levels. I don't even think that they are concerned - in general - if you do it a couple of times.
However, running a mission 5-10 times and not completing them, that's where I know I draw the line in what is using content versus abusing content.
The arcs/missions weren't designed to be run repeatedly - other than the task forces - but, even those, after massive repetition become a bit much for my tastes.
Just so you know in general where I stand - so you can make of my opinion what you will -, what has put me over the edge with farmers - in general - are the following things :: <ul type="square">[*]sending me tells asking me to fill[*]broadcasting in lower level zones for farmers.[*]spamming on broadcast for farm teams or more farmers in any zone[*]blind inviting to farm teams and then being suddenly dropped once the maps have been set - without a word or tell from the inviter[*]being invited to team, almost completing a mission, and "being told don't get that last X, we are farming this mission"[*]being invited to a team, arriving at the mission, zoning in, and then being told it's a farming mission[*]farming tending to go hand-in-hand with PL'ing[/list]
As you can see, that has nothing to do with having a problem with farmers slaving over what I would consider boring-repetition in order to get what they consider to be L337 gear or Uber lootage or whatever the cool, hip, cyber-y lingo you want to use for the benefits of farming.
It has to do with the behavior of farmers related to other players.
I could go into my beefs with each one, but I think most players are intelligent enough to figure out why someone wouldn't want to deal with/be put in any of those situations.
Your reply seemed to be trying to base itself in "farming". So I am keeping my reply to that.
What you mentioned in regards to "getting a couple of levels" is not power-leveling. Getting a bunch of levels through bridging, etc. is definitely PL-ing. You did not bring that up, so I am not addressing it.
[ED note :: I also definitely try avoid replying to what I consider "trolling" replies.]
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besides. That sorta attitude is what annoys me. "oh noes, a playerbase niche unlike mine isnt happy, too bad, hahahahahaha"
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The "Oh, no! What is wrong with me abusing the content?!" kind of attitude is what annoys me.
Well that and "The game is only cool if I can abuse the content!" attitude.
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Do you have a direct quote from someone that actually said this mate? It seems to me that you just made it up to try to prove a non-exsistent point about the mythical farmer with a tude.
If you made it up that pretty poor form.
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
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I know that. My point is that you do so much as even something vaguely related to farming and some of the forumites act like you just [censored] their children at gunpoint.
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Understood and agreed. While I generally don't "farm" myself, I have done it in a minor way when nearing a level, just to finish the level off. I don't really consider that farming, but some will.
Some would accuse my youngster of that, because sometimes she just like to explore and streetsweep along the way. I don't consider that farming either; she's not doing it for XP or gear, just for fun.
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Most farmers arent asking to abuse the content, only a very But you do realize that the MA was designed as a means to tell "masterpieces of arc-ish literature" and not as a power-leveling or farming-creation tool, right?
<ul type="square">[*]sending me tells asking me to fill[*]broadcasting in lower level zones for farmers.[*]spamming on broadcast for farm teams or more farmers in any zone[*]blind inviting to farm teams and then being suddenly dropped once the maps have been set - without a word or tell from the inviter[*]being invited to team, almost completing a mission, and "being told don't get that last X, we are farming this mission"[*]being invited to a team, arriving at the mission, zoning in, and then being told it's a farming mission[*]farming tending to go hand-in-hand with PL'ing[/list]
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"masterpieces of arc-ish literature"
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Well on that score give a shout when there are any. For me the whole contact hologram in front of a big green pillar of data spoils the chance to reach even the low bar the game already has.
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Most farmers don't like asking for fills. Its a pain for us as well. Unfortunately we are forced to.
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Never saw that till MA and it was probably the 4H club or Future farmers of america at work.
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spamming on broadcast for farm teams or more farmers in any zone
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Which is akin to spamming LFT, task force forming, giant monster team or any other spamming. If you are going to hate farmers because of that you have way too many people on your hate list.
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blind inviting to farm teams and then being suddenly dropped once the maps have been set - without a word or tell from the inviter
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Just rude, but it goes back to the first point. People are dealing with a lack of a feature in the game.
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being invited to team, almost completing a mission, and "being told don't get that last X, we are farming this mission
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Why does that bother you ?
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being invited to a team, arriving at the mission, zoning in, and then being told it's a farming mission
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You don't ask what people are doing before you accept an invite ?? I have a psi/ment blaster boy that cured me of not checking if there were robots or carnies involved.
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Unh hunh. Well I have never charged to power level anyone what you can charge doesn't compare to what you lose by bringing deadweight along. So its either a favor to a friend or helping someone out who needs to get past the awkward levels or a dead spot.
I don't get the prejudice against it. Its no different than sking on a large team.
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Most farmers arent asking to abuse the content, only a very small fraction, who the rest don't like anyhow. Theyre asking very reasonably for their playstyle, which tends to favor repeatable missions filled with monsters, to not be treated like its ruining the game. Most farmers agreed that comm officers needed to die a horrible death. Most farmers don't want to burn this game into the ground, but they don't want to play your "masterpieces of arc-ish literature" either.
But if you asked the forum's opinion the very second you so much as run a Katie Hannon/ITF/Whathaveyou for a quick level up or two, your playstyle is wrong, evil, and needs to die in the fiery pits of hell because you don't play like them.
I ran all the Croatoa arcs just to unlock katie. Did I enjoy the arcs? Yes. Do i deserve to be villainized, have my characters deleted and be forcibly ejected from the game forever because between bouts of roleplaying and soloing AE arcs I enjoy a speedran Katie or ITF or even an AE farm for quick exp and/or loot? Apparently so if you ask most of the most vocal on the forum.
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Forumites are going to have varying opinions on what constitutes farming; that's a given.
However, the playstyle you noted does not put you in any danger of having your characters deleted or being forcibly removed from the game. You're safe there.
Nothing you described would fall under the categories of "extreme" or "abuse" or "egregious" or "exploit," especially since Positron indicated those all go together (the worst of the worst).
Have fun, with no worries.
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I know that. My point is that you do so much as even something vaguely related to farming and some of the forumites act like you just [censored] their children at gunpoint.
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the irony is that the nerfing of comm officers, tickets etc is not even the most damaging part of this fiasco. It is the damage done by posi and his decision to join forum pvp. He has changed the attitude of a part of his customers to adversarial. While some(mainly those he patted on the head as good peasants) think there was nothing of the sort there, others felt otherwise. He would have been much better off just doing the nerfs and shutting up. The damage he did was to the long term attitudes and relationship. MA can be fixed with small code changes, the other cant.
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I agree with hedgehog.
it wasn't the comm officer nerf. Anyone that went on that farm knew darned good and well it was only temporary.
It wasn't even some undefined 'vision' about what the MA was for that bugged those of us that don't mind farming.
It was positron coming in and pointing a gun at everyone with only vague warnings about what would and would not get you shot.
THAT is where 99% of the vitriol in regards to the recent nerfs are coming out. Nobody likes being threatened, not even if you are reasonably certain that the threat is not directed at you personally.
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besides. That sorta attitude is what annoys me. "oh noes, a playerbase niche unlike mine isnt happy, too bad, hahahahahaha"
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The "Oh, no! What is wrong with me abusing the content?!" kind of attitude is what annoys me.
Well that and "The game is only cool if I can abuse the content!" attitude.
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See, thats the problem here,
Most farmers arent asking to abuse the content, only a very small fraction, who the rest don't like anyhow. Theyre asking very reasonably for their playstyle, which tends to favor repeatable missions filled with monsters, to not be treated like its ruining the game. Most farmers agreed that comm officers needed to die a horrible death. Most farmers don't want to burn this game into the ground, but they don't want to play your "masterpieces of arc-ish literature" either.
But if you asked the forum's opinion the very second you so much as run a Katie Hannon/ITF/Whathaveyou for a quick level up or two, your playstyle is wrong, evil, and needs to die in the fiery pits of hell because you don't play like them.
I ran all the Croatoa arcs just to unlock katie. Did I enjoy the arcs? Yes. Do i deserve to be villainized, have my characters deleted and be forcibly ejected from the game forever because between bouts of roleplaying and soloing AE arcs I enjoy a speedran Katie or ITF or even an AE farm for quick exp and/or loot? Apparently so if you ask most of the most vocal on the forum.
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That was well spoken and thought out. Never will I look at the Farmers the same way now. I can see there point of view. I find farming much too boring, but have done enough to know where I stand on the subject.
I know somewhere someone will say that the Farmer's cause inflation. I agree, 200 mill for a Purp is a lot. But we all have a farm of some kind. Be it the ITF, solo Posi's or PvP for Recipes, there is no real difference.
I do play this game because I love the feeling I get from saving the world. Though when it is time to get a big influx of influence, I know where I can get it and probabbly have fun too. But I think so do you.
Bashful Banshee...Oh yeah, play my arc #11529.
Thank you and enjoy.
Enjoy your day please.
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I know that. My point is that you do so much as even something vaguely related to farming and some of the forumites act like you just [censored] their children at gunpoint.
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Understood and agreed. While I generally don't "farm" myself, I have done it in a minor way when nearing a level, just to finish the level off. I don't really consider that farming, but some will.
Some would accuse my youngster of that, because sometimes she just like to explore and streetsweep along the way. I don't consider that farming either; she's not doing it for XP or gear, just for fun.
Ignore the overzealous forumites -- on both sides.
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Farming is farming, whether you are doing it for XP, gear or "fun". Besides getting XP and gear is fun!
Both you and your kid are farmers. Welcome to the club!
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I know that. My point is that you do so much as even something vaguely related to farming and some of the forumites act like you just [censored] their children at gunpoint.
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Understood and agreed. While I generally don't "farm" myself, I have done it in a minor way when nearing a level, just to finish the level off. I don't really consider that farming, but some will.
Some would accuse my youngster of that, because sometimes she just like to explore and streetsweep along the way. I don't consider that farming either; she's not doing it for XP or gear, just for fun.
Ignore the overzealous forumites -- on both sides.
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Farming is farming, whether you are doing it for XP, gear or "fun". Besides getting XP and gear is fun!
Both you and your kid are farmers. Welcome to the club!
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No, farming is a job.
Reward-focused play (diamond play, if that means anything) is different from farming because the reward-focused player is capable of changing his behavior, while the farmer is either following a paper script or uses automated tools.
Reward-focused players (diamonds) may jokingly CALL what they do farming, but it's not. Because they're deciding what to do. The farmer doesn't have that choice.
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I agree with hedgehog.
it wasn't the comm officer nerf. Anyone that went on that farm knew darned good and well it was only temporary.
It wasn't even some undefined 'vision' about what the MA was for that bugged those of us that don't mind farming.
It was positron coming in and pointing a gun at everyone with only vague warnings about what would and would not get you shot.
THAT is where 99% of the vitriol in regards to the recent nerfs are coming out. Nobody likes being threatened, not even if you are reasonably certain that the threat is not directed at you personally.
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And I'm sure the Devs don't like being called stupid, idiots or other such insults or being insinuated as conspirators to the 'master plan' while being taunted with the threats of closing multiple accounts.
And I'm positive they frown upon it happening with almost every new thing they bring to the table.
It happened with the PvPers and now, some of the farmers. If you're willing to act arrogant, rude and try to 'intimidate' the Devs... expect it to happen in kind.
The fact that he was professional about it is a testament to his personality. Half the people I know would've smacked many of you in the mouth if yall approached them in the same way yall talk at the devs.
Apparently, I play "City of Shakespeare"
*Arc #95278-Gathering the Four Winds -3 step arc; challenging - 5 Ratings/3 Stars (still working out the kinks)
*Arc #177826-Lights, Camera, Scream! - 3 step arc, camp horror; try out in 1st person POV - 35 Ratings/4 Stars
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It happened with the PvPers and now, some of the farmers. If you're willing to act arrogant, rude and try to 'intimidate' the Devs... expect it to happen in kind.
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And if they ever decide to stick a knife in what you enjoy about the game it will happen with you
That post was comical.
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
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I agree with hedgehog.
it wasn't the comm officer nerf. Anyone that went on that farm knew darned good and well it was only temporary.
It wasn't even some undefined 'vision' about what the MA was for that bugged those of us that don't mind farming.
It was positron coming in and pointing a gun at everyone with only vague warnings about what would and would not get you shot.
THAT is where 99% of the vitriol in regards to the recent nerfs are coming out. Nobody likes being threatened, not even if you are reasonably certain that the threat is not directed at you personally.
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And I'm sure the Devs don't like being called stupid, idiots or other such insults or being insinuated as conspirators to the 'master plan' while being taunted with the threats of closing multiple accounts.
And I'm positive they frown upon it happening with almost every new thing they bring to the table.
It happened with the PvPers and now, some of the farmers. If you're willing to act arrogant, rude and try to 'intimidate' the Devs... expect it to happen in kind.
The fact that he was professional about it is a testament to his personality. Half the people I know would've smacked many of you in the mouth if yall approached them in the same way yall talk at the devs.
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The difference is that Posi is the senior representative for COX for NCSOFT. Noe of us represent anything other than our selves. You may not have seen it as unprofessional, but a significant number of his customers did. And yes, he did out right say that some of us had poor morals because we didnt follow his nebulous vision of the rules of this mmo. (see his moral compass). So no, he is not perfect, neither is his customer base. But he is the representative of a multinational corporation and should act like it.
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It happened with the PvPers and now, some of the farmers. If you're willing to act arrogant, rude and try to 'intimidate' the Devs... expect it to happen in kind.
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And if they ever decide to stick a knife in what you enjoy about the game it will happen with you
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Sure, I'd move on but I'm not going to turn that exodus into 'look-at-me-i'm-reallllly-angry-i'm-gonna-quit' tirade all over the boards.
I don't mind arguing a point every once in awhile, but I'm not cut out to act like a drama queen.
Apparently, I play "City of Shakespeare"
*Arc #95278-Gathering the Four Winds -3 step arc; challenging - 5 Ratings/3 Stars (still working out the kinks)
*Arc #177826-Lights, Camera, Scream! - 3 step arc, camp horror; try out in 1st person POV - 35 Ratings/4 Stars
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I agree with hedgehog.
it wasn't the comm officer nerf. Anyone that went on that farm knew darned good and well it was only temporary.
It wasn't even some undefined 'vision' about what the MA was for that bugged those of us that don't mind farming.
It was positron coming in and pointing a gun at everyone with only vague warnings about what would and would not get you shot.
THAT is where 99% of the vitriol in regards to the recent nerfs are coming out. Nobody likes being threatened, not even if you are reasonably certain that the threat is not directed at you personally.
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And I'm sure the Devs don't like being called stupid, idiots or other such insults or being insinuated as conspirators to the 'master plan' while being taunted with the threats of closing multiple accounts.
And I'm positive they frown upon it happening with almost every new thing they bring to the table.
It happened with the PvPers and now, some of the farmers. If you're willing to act arrogant, rude and try to 'intimidate' the Devs... expect it to happen in kind.
The fact that he was professional about it is a testament to his personality. Half the people I know would've smacked many of you in the mouth if yall approached them in the same way yall talk at the devs.
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The difference is that Posi is the senior representative for COX for NCSOFT. Noe of us represent anything other than our selves. You may not have seen it as unprofessional, but a significant number of his customers did. And yes, he did out right say that some of us had poor morals because we didnt follow his nebulous vision of the rules of this mmo. (see his moral compass). So no, he is not perfect, neither is his customer base. But he is the representative of a multinational corporation and should act like it.
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Companies do this all the time; they hand out reprimands, they fire people, they ban visitors and cease services over both hard rules, conduct codes or even just the spirit of their business. And they tend to not be shy about telling a person why. If Positron wasn't as PC as you would like, which strikes me as funny given the discussions I've seen to date here... then do what people seem to like to imply around here; grow a thicker skin (ie., don't lose sleep over it).
Apparently, I play "City of Shakespeare"
*Arc #95278-Gathering the Four Winds -3 step arc; challenging - 5 Ratings/3 Stars (still working out the kinks)
*Arc #177826-Lights, Camera, Scream! - 3 step arc, camp horror; try out in 1st person POV - 35 Ratings/4 Stars
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I know that. My point is that you do so much as even something vaguely related to farming and some of the forumites act like you just [censored] their children at gunpoint.
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Understood and agreed. While I generally don't "farm" myself, I have done it in a minor way when nearing a level, just to finish the level off. I don't really consider that farming, but some will.
Some would accuse my youngster of that, because sometimes she just like to explore and streetsweep along the way. I don't consider that farming either; she's not doing it for XP or gear, just for fun.
Ignore the overzealous forumites -- on both sides.
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Farming is farming, whether you are doing it for XP, gear or "fun". Besides getting XP and gear is fun!
Both you and your kid are farmers. Welcome to the club!
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Depends on one's definition or point-of-view -- which of course is why we have all these angsty threads going on.
I don't consider grinding a few mobs at the end of a level to be real farming. Certainly fighting mobs while exploring to enjoy the combat itself is not something I would consider farming -- by my definition.
Flat out farming to me is doing the same thing over and over again for no other purpose that to garner nebulous rewards; the content and/or story is not important, nor is challenge, just the ability to gain XP/gear faster. The most "loot" for the least effort.
That's the type of farming that to me is excruciatingly boring. If that's all the game had to offer, there'd be nothing to keep me here.
Luckily that's not the case.
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I should probably take this moment to talk about what the Mission Architect is not meant for. It is not meant for easy leveling or badging or farming. Those are things that we specifically wanted the Mission Architect NOT to do. This may be a disappointment to some, I know. The goal was to give creative minds an outlet to tell the stories they have in their heads. We didnt want the system clogged with Farm missions, so actually finding someones story that they lovingly crafted became more a chore than it was worth.
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This Mission Architect primary purpose is for telling stories. We do not want people to spend days making a great story only to find it shuffled into a list of missions with titles like "Get your Rikti Monkey badge here", "10 badges in 5 minutes", "Down on the AV Farm", etc. etc.
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I agree with hedgehog.
it wasn't the comm officer nerf. Anyone that went on that farm knew darned good and well it was only temporary.
It wasn't even some undefined 'vision' about what the MA was for that bugged those of us that don't mind farming.
It was positron coming in and pointing a gun at everyone with only vague warnings about what would and would not get you shot.
THAT is where 99% of the vitriol in regards to the recent nerfs are coming out. Nobody likes being threatened, not even if you are reasonably certain that the threat is not directed at you personally.
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And I'm sure the Devs don't like being called stupid, idiots or other such insults or being insinuated as conspirators to the 'master plan' while being taunted with the threats of closing multiple accounts.
And I'm positive they frown upon it happening with almost every new thing they bring to the table.
It happened with the PvPers and now, some of the farmers. If you're willing to act arrogant, rude and try to 'intimidate' the Devs... expect it to happen in kind.
The fact that he was professional about it is a testament to his personality. Half the people I know would've smacked many of you in the mouth if yall approached them in the same way yall talk at the devs.
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The difference is that Posi is the senior representative for COX for NCSOFT. Noe of us represent anything other than our selves. You may not have seen it as unprofessional, but a significant number of his customers did. And yes, he did out right say that some of us had poor morals because we didnt follow his nebulous vision of the rules of this mmo. (see his moral compass). So no, he is not perfect, neither is his customer base. But he is the representative of a multinational corporation and should act like it.
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Companies do this all the time; they hand out reprimands, they fire people, they ban visitors and cease services over both hard rules, conduct codes or even just the spirit of their business. And they tend to not be shy about telling a person why. If Positron wasn't as PC as you would like, which strikes me as funny given the discussions I've seen to date here... then do what people seem to like to imply around here; grow a thicker skin (ie., don't lose sleep over it).
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No, companies tend to deal with problem customers on a case by case basis. They don't hold a news conference and threaten their customer base.
Lots of 50's yada yada. still finding fun things to do.
Cthulhu loves you, better start running
I�! I�! Gg�gorsch�a�bha egurtsa�ar�ug d� Dalhor! Cthluhu fthagn! Cthluhu fthagn!
You are in a maze of twisty little passages
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I agree with hedgehog.
it wasn't the comm officer nerf. Anyone that went on that farm knew darned good and well it was only temporary.
It wasn't even some undefined 'vision' about what the MA was for that bugged those of us that don't mind farming.
It was positron coming in and pointing a gun at everyone with only vague warnings about what would and would not get you shot.
THAT is where 99% of the vitriol in regards to the recent nerfs are coming out. Nobody likes being threatened, not even if you are reasonably certain that the threat is not directed at you personally.
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And I'm sure the Devs don't like being called stupid, idiots or other such insults or being insinuated as conspirators to the 'master plan' while being taunted with the threats of closing multiple accounts.
And I'm positive they frown upon it happening with almost every new thing they bring to the table.
It happened with the PvPers and now, some of the farmers. If you're willing to act arrogant, rude and try to 'intimidate' the Devs... expect it to happen in kind.
The fact that he was professional about it is a testament to his personality. Half the people I know would've smacked many of you in the mouth if yall approached them in the same way yall talk at the devs.
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The difference is that Posi is the senior representative for COX for NCSOFT. Noe of us represent anything other than our selves. You may not have seen it as unprofessional, but a significant number of his customers did. And yes, he did out right say that some of us had poor morals because we didnt follow his nebulous vision of the rules of this mmo. (see his moral compass). So no, he is not perfect, neither is his customer base. But he is the representative of a multinational corporation and should act like it.
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Companies do this all the time; they hand out reprimands, they fire people, they ban visitors and cease services over both hard rules, conduct codes or even just the spirit of their business. And they tend to not be shy about telling a person why. If Positron wasn't as PC as you would like, which strikes me as funny given the discussions I've seen to date here... then do what people seem to like to imply around here; grow a thicker skin (ie., don't lose sleep over it).
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No, companies tend to deal with problem customers on a case by case basis. They don't hold a news conference and threaten their customer base.
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That's just it, they didn't threaten their customer base. They threatened abusers and them alone.
Pretty much, they put up a sign in their produce market stating that although sampling is tolerated those that gorge themselves on the produce will be prosecuted as shoplifters.
And for the most part, those people are intelligent enough to know who they are.
Others will get understandably concerned but hopefully would be smart enough to ask for clarification if in doubt (or just take it upon themselves to cut down or cut out on sampling the produce).
Some won't care because they weren't doing it in the first place.
And of course, some will blow their top and act aggressively towards the employees.
And the thing about the latter set of customers, no matter how courteous or professional the store addresses them concerning the matter; chances are they'll continue to act loud, rude and obnoxious.
And I wouldn't be surprised if they were escorted to the door and asked never to come back.
Apparently, I play "City of Shakespeare"
*Arc #95278-Gathering the Four Winds -3 step arc; challenging - 5 Ratings/3 Stars (still working out the kinks)
*Arc #177826-Lights, Camera, Scream! - 3 step arc, camp horror; try out in 1st person POV - 35 Ratings/4 Stars
Well, I Like the MA. And Posi did not hurt me in my feelings.
To steal directly from the most appropriate source:
The Mission Architect Will Not Be Televised
You will not be able to stay home, brother.
You will not be able to plug in, turn on and cop out.
You will not be able to lose yourself on skag and skip,
Skip out for beer during commercials,
Because the Mission Architect will not be televised.
The Mission Architect will not be televised.
The Mission Architect will not be brought to you by Xerox
In 4 parts without commercial interruptions.
The Mission Architect will not show you pictures of Nixon
blowing a bugle and leading a charge by John
Mitchell, General Abrams and Spiro Agnew to eat
hog maws confiscated from a Harlem sanctuary.
The Mission Architect will not be televised.
The Mission Architect will not be brought to you by the
Schaefer Award Theatre and will not star Natalie
Woods and Steve McQueen or Bullwinkle and Julia.
The Mission Architect will not give your mouth sex appeal.
The Mission Architect will not get rid of the nubs.
The Mission Architect will not make you look five pounds
thinner, because the Mission Architect will not be televised, Brother.
There will be no pictures of you and Willie May
pushing that shopping cart down the block on the dead run,
or trying to slide that color television into a stolen ambulance.
NBC will not be able predict the winner at 8:32
or report from 29 districts.
The Mission Architect will not be televised.
There will be no pictures of pigs shooting down
brothers in the instant replay.
There will be no pictures of pigs shooting down
brothers in the instant replay.
There will be no pictures of Whitney Young being
run out of Harlem on a rail with a brand new process.
There will be no slow motion or still life of Roy
Wilkens strolling through Watts in a Red, Black and
Green liberation jumpsuit that he had been saving
For just the proper occasion.
Green Acres, The Beverly Hillbillies, and Hooterville
Junction will no longer be so damned relevant, and
women will not care if Dick finally gets down with
Jane on Search for Tomorrow because Black people
will be in the street looking for a brighter day.
The Mission Architect will not be televised.
There will be no highlights on the eleven o'clock
news and no pictures of hairy armed women
liberationists and Jackie Onassis blowing her nose.
The theme song will not be written by Jim Webb,
Francis Scott Key, nor sung by Glen Campbell, Tom
Jones, Johnny Cash, Englebert Humperdink, or the Rare Earth.
The Mission Architect will not be televised.
The Mission Architect will not be right back after a message
bbout a white tornado, white lightning, or white people.
You will not have to worry about a dove in your
bedroom, a tiger in your tank, or the giant in your toilet bowl.
The Mission Architect will not go better with Coke.
The Mission Architect will not fight the germs that may cause bad breath.
The Mission Architect will put you in the driver's seat.
The Mission Architect will not be televised, will not be televised,
will not be televised, will not be televised.
The Mission Architect will be no re-run brothers;
The Mission Architect will be live.
(All credit to Gil Scott-Heron, the writer of the original piece)
Arc #6015 - Coming Unglued
"A good n00b-sauce is based on a good n00b-roux." - The Masque
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hog maws confiscated from a Harlem sanctuary.
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Awwwww, that's one of the best mission ideas I've seen yet.
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"At what point do we say, 'You're mucking with our myths'?" - Harlan Ellison
I have a general disinterest in MA mostly due to the limited UI search features. I think alot of people mentally thought the down time between missions would decrease but for the most part I noted it has taken longer searching for arcs that fit in the time frame you want to invest in a mission, that do or do not have AVs, that auto sk (bad feature IMO) or not, etc.
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Some would accuse my youngster of[farming], because sometimes she just like to explore and streetsweep along the way. I don't consider that farming either; she's not doing it for XP or gear, just for fun.
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Farming is farming, whether you are doing it for XP, gear or "fun". Besides getting XP and gear is fun!
Both you and your kid are farmers. Welcome to the club!
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Certainly fighting mobs while exploring to enjoy the combat itself is not something I would consider farming -- by my definition.
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Totally agree, heart_fr. What this kid is doing is the exact opposite of farming - fighting bad guys because they are there, not because it's a chore that must be endured in order to get xp.
I completely agree with Statesman's original vision of what street mobs were for - something to fill out the world and give you something to do, if you so chose, while traveling between missions or other more 'tangible' tasks. This was said back in the day when mission bonuses were introduced to encourage missions over the repetitive street sweeping that many players were doing in order to maximize xp/hour. THAT was farming. Ol' States' idea was that it was bad design to 'reward boring behavior', and I completely agree with that design philosophy (and so do the current devs, apparently). If the path to maximum xp/hour is also the path to the greatest gameplay diversity, best storytelling, etc., (in other words, the least repetitive/boring/non-challenging behavior) ... well, that is the ideal game in my opinion. The reward-oriented players will naturally adopt a diverse and interesting gameplay experience as the path of least resistance to the greatest rewards, and the players most interested in a diverse gameplay experience will get the great rewards they deserve for their time invested.
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If your arc gives VASTLY more rewards than a normal mission arc would;
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The problem is what is vastly ?? The most you could hold was 10K. Pohsyb had said there was a built in cap to prevent excessive reward.
Just who is defining vastly here ?