City of Heroes is Going Rogue!?!


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No, i believe he is correct. Why else would have states have stated that "looks can be decieving", and then in the credits it stated that loyaltys will change. I think states is gonna go "Rogue". Basically all for one, one for all. Last man standing kinda stuff.

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Here's a quote from their press release. "In the Going Rogue expansion, hero and villain characters will become immersed in the new parallel universe known as Praetoria, which is governed by Tyrant™, the evil incarnation of the game's main protagonist, Statesman™. As gamers search for Tyrant and the rest of his Praetorian guard, implacable foes and fierce resistance will arise to face them from all sides, causing heroes and villains alike to question their loyalties."

With that and having another hero go rogue already (and being highlighted in the video, etc.), I'm not sure why the devs would want their face of City of Heroes to go bad, especially when he already has an evil alternate version. So yeah, I'm quite sure that is Tyrant.

Looking at the video again, the first bit where States is with Desdemona (villain becoming a hero), he's referring to how Praetoria looks nice, but isn't really, as she said "it looks like a paradise." Then Statesman's helm transforms into Tyrant's (I remember it being a bit more rectangular/angular as well as golden). The guy that looks like Tyrant is standing next to the hero "going rogue," as well.


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Not to go off topic Esch, but a few weeks ago I was watching "The Phone" on MTV (or VH1 I forget which) the last scene was in Gasworks park there was a huge graffiti tag "Esch" in the background. Approx 35:51 into the episode, my question Esch; seeing that it took place in Seattle, do you have another hobby we don't know about?
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I'm not sure why the devs would want their face of City of Heroes to go bad, especially when he already has an evil alternate version.

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Because Champions doesn't have villains? I understand the pretorians but the way they spin it is two different people. Going rogue is the one person changing sides and the innuendo in the video was pretty heavy. I'm not saying that's what they are going to do but it's implied, maybe deceptively, in the video.

Plus, I really do think States is a [censored] and would have no problem having him go Rogue.

Finally, I posted that for humor, Gray.


 

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I think one thing that is being overlooked is the following possibility:

Yes, you may switch sides, but ONLY WITH CHARACTERS CREATED WITH THE NEW RELEASE. Sorry about the caps, but it just seems like opening too many cans of worms if they were to allow fully tricked out fifties to switch sides at launch.

I expect that this will be very similar to the CoV initial launch - there may be a small handful of zones that allow interaction between Praetoria and Paragon, but other than that, existing characters and Praetorian characters will be in two separate worlds.

-Esch

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Not to go off topic Esch, but a few weeks ago I was watching "The Phone" on MTV (or VH1 I forget which) the last scene was in Gasworks park there was a huge graffiti tag "Esch" in the background. Approx 35:51 into the episode, my question Esch; seeing that it took place in Seattle, do you have another hobby we don't know about?
Episode 1 The Bomber

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I think one thing that is being overlooked is the following possibility:

Yes, you may switch sides, but ONLY WITH CHARACTERS CREATED WITH THE NEW RELEASE.

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I overlooked it because it's a stupid possibility.


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I think one thing that is being overlooked is the following possibility:

Yes, you may switch sides, but ONLY WITH CHARACTERS CREATED WITH THE NEW RELEASE. Sorry about the caps, but it just seems like opening too many cans of worms if they were to allow fully tricked out fifties to switch sides at launch.

I expect that this will be very similar to the CoV initial launch - there may be a small handful of zones that allow interaction between Praetoria and Paragon, but other than that, existing characters and Praetorian characters will be in two separate worlds.

-Esch

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Not to go off topic Esch, but a few weeks ago I was watching "The Phone" on MTV (or VH1 I forget which) the last scene was in Gasworks park there was a huge graffiti tag "Esch" in the background. Approx 35:51 into the episode, my question Esch; seeing that it took place in Seattle, do you have another hobby we don't know about?
Episode 1 The Bomber

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No. My tag is actually an
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I think one thing that is being overlooked is the following possibility:

Yes, you may switch sides, but ONLY WITH CHARACTERS CREATED WITH THE NEW RELEASE.

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I overlooked it because it's a stupid possibility.

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I think one thing that is being overlooked is the following possibility:

Yes, you may switch sides, but ONLY WITH CHARACTERS CREATED WITH THE NEW RELEASE.

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I overlooked it because it's a stupid possibility.

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Agreed, it also doesn't make any sense. The main reason I could see the devs only allowing new characters to choose one side or another is to keep the markets from contaminating each other. In other words, you can make a Villain Scrapper, but since he started on the Villain side, he wouldn't have brought anything over from Hero side.

In the FAQ they posted, it has been stated that you're not limited to only switching sides once. This would allow, even new character, to 'cross pollinate' the markets circumventing the only real reason not to allow current characters to switch sides.

I'm pretty confident they'll allow current characters to switch.


 

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I think one thing that is being overlooked is the following possibility:

Yes, you may switch sides, but ONLY WITH CHARACTERS CREATED WITH THE NEW RELEASE. Sorry about the caps, but it just seems like opening too many cans of worms if they were to allow fully tricked out fifties to switch sides at launch.


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I concede that is a possibility, but I refute it's likely hood. While I appreciate the difficulty involved in balancing all the ATs, they have been doing so on a lesser scale for quite some time. When RWZ and Cimmeroa opened up to both sides, players declared the death of several ATs...it still hasn't happened. Heroes and Villains have been teaming for quite some time now, this wouldn't change anything.

There are those (myself included) who felt the creation of the Rogue Ilse was an error. While I appreciate the conceptual reasons driving it, it essentially split the player base. This has the potential to diminish that separation.


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On this note I have a Scrapper that may depending on his moral compass be on the good or bad side. conversely I have mastermind that doesn't want to be a bad guy but is compelled by it's programming.


 

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Well, look, I very well might be wrong about it, but at the beginning of CoV, you had to make all new characters at Level 1 so I don't see why it is stupid they would do that again.

After all, if I can just arbitrarily switch sides, what would possibly motivate me to create a "new" character?

I'm sure we'll see soon enough, and I certainly hope that I am wrong - but if not, well, it wouldn't be the first boneheaded thing the Devs have done.

-Esch


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Well, look, I very well might be wrong about it, but at the beginning of CoV, you had to make all new characters at Level 1 so I don't see why it is stupid they would do that again.

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CoV had 5 new ATs, so you couldn't possibly have had existing characters of those types. GR is rumored to have 1 new AT, but it might not well have any.

One of the major appeals of switching sides is taking a 50 who has done all the content on his side, and switching him over to see how he fares against that content. For the Devs to take that away would be a costly mistake.

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After all, if I can just arbitrarily switch sides, what would possibly motivate me to create a "new" character?

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New sets (Pistols, Demon Summoning), and maybe to create a new character to run through existing content in a way you never could before (level a Stalker 1 to 50, blue side, for example).


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I'm hoping for at least one new primary and secondary for each AT (except Kheldians and Veats of course). Preferably using new mechanics that can be built into the game thanks to the fact that it's a full on expansion. Time Control/Domination, Bo Staff scrappers/brutes. Maybe even a couple more power pools (a boy can dream can't he?).


 

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You know what's a cool idea that they'll never do?

Auto level for people who've already reached 50.

Now hear me out with my imaginary scenario that I've pulled seeming out of my [censored].

WoW has a class called death knight that starts at level 55 out of 80 levels. They've also had serious thoughts of giving this auto level 55 status to anyone who has reached level 55 or 80 or what not.

I think it would be awesome if they just came out auto level to say, 25 or 35 for anyone who has achieved either that level or level 50.

This is probably the only thing that I can empathize with PL'rs on, is that first jump from 1-20something. It can get tedious after you've done it and it'd be nice if you could just skip it.

But it will never happen so whatever. I can dream can't I?


 

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I can dream can't I?

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I can dream can't I?

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No - I eat dreams, and yours are next on the menu. Nom nom nom.

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You know what's a cool idea that they'll never do?

Auto level for people who've already reached 50.

Now hear me out with my imaginary scenario that I've pulled seeming out of my [censored].

WoW has a class called death knight that starts at level 55 out of 80 levels. They've also had serious thoughts of giving this auto level 55 status to anyone who has reached level 55 or 80 or what not.

I think it would be awesome if they just came out auto level to say, 25 or 35 for anyone who has achieved either that level or level 50.

This is probably the only thing that I can empathize with PL'rs on, is that first jump from 1-20something. It can get tedious after you've done it and it'd be nice if you could just skip it.

But it will never happen so whatever. I can dream can't I?

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Anybody get an odd feeling that sometime after the expansion we will be looking at a 3 way epic battle between Reichman, Tyrant, and Statesman?


 

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Starting at level 1 is half the fun


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Since I am stuck in a very long phone conference, staring into space...

So any one think that the fireball changing color in Desdemona's hand in the video means PC is coming? Need to start some rumors!

Yeah, really exciting meeting....


 

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I'm telling your boss !!! jk


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Since I am stuck in a very long phone conference, staring into space...

So any one think that the fireball changing color in Desdemona's hand in the video means PC is coming? Need to start some rumors!

Yeah, really exciting meeting....

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I wasn't sure... it seemed to go from red to gray to blue. I see one of three possibilities:
1. Power Customization. Awesome.
2. Your powers change color based on your alignment. We see this already with redside lightning sets and such.
3. Cinematic flair. Boooooooo.

RE: Calash
I'm thinking four-way between States, LR, Tyrant, and Reichs. Friggin' epic.


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So any one think that the fireball changing color in Desdemona's hand in the video means PC is coming? Need to start some rumors!

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Even I'm not crazy enough to buy into that, Penny!

My first thought was it's the difference between evil red side blasts and good blue side.

They have been dropping so many hints about PC though, and with CO around the corner... anything's possible.


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Am I the only one who does NOT want to see power customization EVER hit this game? The furry one was totally right about our characters becoming nothing but glowie balls of light when fully buffed; to think that not only would our characters be turned into light-balls of every color, but a fully debuffed enemy (I'm thinking Radiation toggles as well as Darkest night, for example) could easily blur baddies into blobs of -NEW AND IMPROVED, ALL COLORS OF THE SPECTRUM!-

I like knowing that I can look at a boss and if I see Green or Black on him (Radiation or Dark Miasma), it's probably safe to go smack on him, but if it's a light-grey Snowstorm, be careful because he can still smack the [censored] out of me. The set colors and looks of the powers in this game help me to know what's going on around me in game.


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/em unlurk

I have seen in the past the devs saying that with the sales of these booster packs and with the noobhires they are seeing things being done that could not be done before.

/em lurk