All you DOOOOM sayers, listen up. (PvP Population)

that's called a pvp server.

and i hope champions has one.

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Becuase if the good pvpers didnt take so much time smashing and running off all the new guys by having or feeling the need to excessively rub every kill they do in their face and then repeat process over and over then I 13 wouldnt even been needed. Running off new players, creates angry customers, angry customers carry it to the forums and pve, which carries over into buisness and angry customers aint good for buisness. So in sacrifice for a few L33t uber people that made it point to prove they are uber 24/7 and threw one too many grains of salt into the wound, I13 came to be for the better enjoyment of pvp by anyoen who wishes to go into it and not just the l33t few. All it would've took to avoid this nerf bat wasa little respect among players. a little honor. This is basically a self inflicted pvp nerf. Yes some people say that killing someone over and over to bug them is legal so is putting my finger in ya face but not touching you and spitting all types of explitive in front your grandma and wishing the old bat would die so I could laugh when they put her into the ground is all perfectly legal but doesnt exactly make it right. And and if I did do that, I expect a fight to ensure, which in this case complaints and animosity. Pre-13 PVP was nice with the powers and stuff, but it sucked balls because it was always like hard core pvpers owned the zone and didnt want anyone in. Well , mission accomplished on their part but that's bad for buisness by runnign off paying customers. And since the l33t group was small to begin with, they didnt stand a chance against the angry protests. Of course some of my coolest buddies was l33tz and left with the rest but if changing something to piss off a few people for the better for more then go for it. I see the concept behind I13 but dont think it worked out exactly as it was envisioned. Or maybe so depending on which side you're on. Many people are just glad the old d-wads as they became known are finally gone.

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I have news for you.

The people who could PvP under the old system can still PvP under the new system. It's not like suddenly everyone is on even ground (lol). The people that whined in I12 still whine and we still drive them out of the zones. Only real difference is that any retard can pick up a FotM build and do decently with it (but that may have been their goal, in which case lol).

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that's called a pvp server.

and i hope champions has one.

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Becuase if the good pvpers didnt take so much time smashing and running off all the new guys by having or feeling the need to excessively rub every kill they do in their face and then repeat process over and over then I 13 wouldnt even been needed. Running off new players, creates angry customers, angry customers carry it to the forums and pve, which carries over into buisness and angry customers aint good for buisness. So in sacrifice for a few L33t uber people that made it point to prove they are uber 24/7 and threw one too many grains of salt into the wound, I13 came to be for the better enjoyment of pvp by anyoen who wishes to go into it and not just the l33t few. All it would've took to avoid this nerf bat wasa little respect among players. a little honor. This is basically a self inflicted pvp nerf. Yes some people say that killing someone over and over to bug them is legal so is putting my finger in ya face but not touching you and spitting all types of explitive in front your grandma and wishing the old bat would die so I could laugh when they put her into the ground is all perfectly legal but doesnt exactly make it right. And and if I did do that, I expect a fight to ensure, which in this case complaints and animosity. Pre-13 PVP was nice with the powers and stuff, but it sucked balls because it was always like hard core pvpers owned the zone and didnt want anyone in. Well , mission accomplished on their part but that's bad for buisness by runnign off paying customers. And since the l33t group was small to begin with, they didnt stand a chance against the angry protests. Of course some of my coolest buddies was l33tz and left with the rest but if changing something to piss off a few people for the better for more then go for it. I see the concept behind I13 but dont think it worked out exactly as it was envisioned. Or maybe so depending on which side you're on. Many people are just glad the old d-wads as they became known are finally gone.

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I have news for you.

The people who could PvP under the old system can still PvP under the new system. It's not like suddenly everyone is on even ground (lol). The people that whined in I12 still whine and we still drive them out of the zones. Only real difference is that any retard can pick up a FotM build and do decently with it (but that may have been their goal, in which case lol).

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True, just too bad that not all the good ones realized that before they departed.

I find it ironic, like a person who is depressed because they are overweight but eat to make themself feel better which only causes them to gain more weight which depresss them more.
Now, pvpers been complaining that devs neglect pvp this and that and they are trying to ruin it. But in reality, pvp is a shrinking sector as people are being and have been ran out of zone and basically discouraged from trying, which seems to be the goal of too many PVPers anyways. Which in case keeps that sector pop low, which puts it low on the priority list, and at the same time put suggestions for changes i nthe hand of people who barely been able to or in some cases never stepped foot into a zone, but might have been itching to. And stating a convincing case why they dont travel to zone, changes get made such as I13 which now yes, any body can pick up a the FoTm and do ok with it as you stated, which is what many goal was in the first place. Before yes a skilled player couls take just about any build and make do with it, and awesome with FoTM. Now I13 takes cae of that leanign curve but yes a skill player is a skill player but there are less of them now then ever and many are still mad about the I13 changes and still make it a point to run off the new guys. It's like they claim to be hardcore pvpers but when you usually hardcore about something you try to sustain it and make it grow instead of tryign to cause it's doom? Like a self loathing suicidal person that claims to love themselves but continue to slash their wrists and complain of blood loss.

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I find it ironic, like a person who is depressed because they are overweight but eat to make themself feel better which only causes them to gain more weight which depresss them more.

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PvP is REAL, man!

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Now, pvpers been complaining that devs neglect pvp this and that and they are trying to ruin it.

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Legitimately, you should add. There was a nice big list of PvP improvement suggestions posted in these forums that went largely ignored in favor of the steaming pile of crap that was I13.

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But in reality, pvp is a shrinking sector as people are being and have been ran out of zone and basically discouraged from trying, which seems to be the goal of too many PVPers anyways.

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It's a "shrinking sector" because the changes drove people away.

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Which in case keeps that sector pop low, which puts it low on the priority list, and at the same time put suggestions for changes i nthe hand of people who barely been able to or in some cases never stepped foot into a zone, but might have been itching to. And stating a convincing case why they dont travel to zone, changes get made such as I13 which now yes, any body can pick up a the FoTm and do ok with it as you stated, which is what many goal was in the first place. Before yes a skilled player couls take just about any build and make do with it, and awesome with FoTM. Now I13 takes cae of that leanign curve but yes a skill player is a skill player but there are less of them now then ever and many are still mad about the I13 changes and still make it a point to run off the new guys. It's like they claim to be hardcore pvpers but when you usually hardcore about something you try to sustain it and make it grow instead of tryign to cause it's doom? Like a self loathing suicidal person that claims to love themselves but continue to slash their wrists and complain of blood loss.

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Less walls of text please. Honestly, the people that whine because of something that happen in a PvP zone (within reason, anyways, bugs and retarded gameplay mechanics are another thing - griping about heavies and NPCs is legitimate these days since they don't follow the new mez rules), shouldn't have been there in the first place. I dealt with that when I was new but I wanted to learn so I stuck it out. If they really want to PvP, they will do the same. And remember, it wasn't a PvPer who said something to you, it was <insert player's name here>.

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Becuase if the good pvpers didnt take so much time smashing and running off all the new guys by having or feeling the need to excessively rub every kill they do in their face and then repeat process over and over then I 13 wouldnt even been needed. Running off new players, creates angry customers, angry customers carry it to the forums and pve, which carries over into buisness and angry customers aint good for buisness. So in sacrifice for a few L33t uber people that made it point to prove they are uber 24/7 and threw one too many grains of salt into the wound, I13 came to be for the better enjoyment of pvp by anyoen who wishes to go into it and not just the l33t few. All it would've took to avoid this nerf bat wasa little respect among players. a little honor. This is basically a self inflicted pvp nerf. Yes some people say that killing someone over and over to bug them is legal so is putting my finger in ya face but not touching you and spitting all types of explitive in front your grandma and wishing the old bat would die so I could laugh when they put her into the ground is all perfectly legal but doesnt exactly make it right. And and if I did do that, I expect a fight to ensure, which in this case complaints and animosity. Pre-13 PVP was nice with the powers and stuff, but it sucked balls because it was always like hard core pvpers owned the zone and didnt want anyone in. Well , mission accomplished on their part but that's bad for buisness by runnign off paying customers. And since the l33t group was small to begin with, they didnt stand a chance against the angry protests. Of course some of my coolest buddies was l33tz and left with the rest but if changing something to piss off a few people for the better for more then go for it. I see the concept behind I13 but dont think it worked out exactly as it was envisioned. Or maybe so depending on which side you're on. Many people are just glad the old d-wads as they became known are finally gone.

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You can shut up any day now.

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Becuase if the good pvpers didnt take so much time smashing and running off all the new guys by having or feeling the need to excessively rub every kill they do in their face and then repeat process over and over then I 13 wouldnt even been needed. Running off new players, creates angry customers, angry customers carry it to the forums and pve, which carries over into buisness and angry customers aint good for buisness. So in sacrifice for a few L33t uber people that made it point to prove they are uber 24/7 and threw one too many grains of salt into the wound, I13 came to be for the better enjoyment of pvp by anyoen who wishes to go into it and not just the l33t few. All it would've took to avoid this nerf bat wasa little respect among players. a little honor. This is basically a self inflicted pvp nerf. Yes some people say that killing someone over and over to bug them is legal so is putting my finger in ya face but not touching you and spitting all types of explitive in front your grandma and wishing the old bat would die so I could laugh when they put her into the ground is all perfectly legal but doesnt exactly make it right. And and if I did do that, I expect a fight to ensure, which in this case complaints and animosity. Pre-13 PVP was nice with the powers and stuff, but it sucked balls because it was always like hard core pvpers owned the zone and didnt want anyone in. Well , mission accomplished on their part but that's bad for buisness by runnign off paying customers. And since the l33t group was small to begin with, they didnt stand a chance against the angry protests. Of course some of my coolest buddies was l33tz and left with the rest but if changing something to piss off a few people for the better for more then go for it. I see the concept behind I13 but dont think it worked out exactly as it was envisioned. Or maybe so depending on which side you're on. Many people are just glad the old d-wads as they became known are finally gone.

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MAN, wtf.

Web of lies. What a giant crock of [censored].

Try again and this time don't blow [censored] out of proportion.

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Becuase if the good pvpers didnt take so much time smashing and running off all the new guys by having or feeling the need to excessively rub every kill they do in their face and then repeat process over and over then I 13 wouldnt even been needed. Running off new players, creates angry customers, angry customers carry it to the forums and pve, which carries over into buisness and angry customers aint good for buisness. So in sacrifice for a few L33t uber people that made it point to prove they are uber 24/7 and threw one too many grains of salt into the wound, I13 came to be for the better enjoyment of pvp by anyoen who wishes to go into it and not just the l33t few. All it would've took to avoid this nerf bat wasa little respect among players. a little honor. This is basically a self inflicted pvp nerf. Yes some people say that killing someone over and over to bug them is legal so is putting my finger in ya face but not touching you and spitting all types of explitive in front your grandma and wishing the old bat would die so I could laugh when they put her into the ground is all perfectly legal but doesnt exactly make it right. And and if I did do that, I expect a fight to ensure, which in this case complaints and animosity. Pre-13 PVP was nice with the powers and stuff, but it sucked balls because it was always like hard core pvpers owned the zone and didnt want anyone in. Well , mission accomplished on their part but that's bad for buisness by runnign off paying customers. And since the l33t group was small to begin with, they didnt stand a chance against the angry protests. Of course some of my coolest buddies was l33tz and left with the rest but if changing something to piss off a few people for the better for more then go for it. I see the concept behind I13 but dont think it worked out exactly as it was envisioned. Or maybe so depending on which side you're on. Many people are just glad the old d-wads as they became known are finally gone.

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MAN, wtf.

Web of lies. What a giant crock of [censored].

Try again and this time don't blow [censored] out of proportion.

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If you read AC in Freedom, you know that i've gone from civilized pvper (i12), very careful to keep diplomatic ties rolling so that the ladder could be run as smoothly as possible to POS [censored] taunting all my kills over all the horrible players left in i13.

NEWS FLASH NEWS FLASH: most of the old guard have any possible toon that can be nerfed/unnerfed in the next 10 issues.
oh look guys, PFF is OP >> so i went and spec'd out two doms. from i12 and i9.
oh guys PFF is nerfed >> fire/sr brute that took 10 days to level to 50.
OMG SHARKS KILL!? >> em/sr stalker from i10.
oh guys defense is nerfed and debuffs rock >> kk, back to my dark/cold (i9) / fire/cold (i12) or even my rad/ice defender (i12).

what's next?
OH GUYS RESISTANCE SETS ARE LEET >> kk, ss/fire brute incoming.

there will always be imbalances.
and people like me will always find them.
and we will always trash talk to the people that are too slow to find them.

GL HF.

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Becuase if the good pvpers didnt take so much time smashing and running off all the new guys by having or feeling the need to excessively rub every kill they do in their face and then repeat process over and over then I 13 wouldnt even been needed. Running off new players, creates angry customers, angry customers carry it to the forums and pve, which carries over into buisness and angry customers aint good for buisness. So in sacrifice for a few L33t uber people that made it point to prove they are uber 24/7 and threw one too many grains of salt into the wound, I13 came to be for the better enjoyment of pvp by anyoen who wishes to go into it and not just the l33t few. All it would've took to avoid this nerf bat wasa little respect among players. a little honor. This is basically a self inflicted pvp nerf. Yes some people say that killing someone over and over to bug them is legal so is putting my finger in ya face but not touching you and spitting all types of explitive in front your grandma and wishing the old bat would die so I could laugh when they put her into the ground is all perfectly legal but doesnt exactly make it right. And and if I did do that, I expect a fight to ensure, which in this case complaints and animosity. Pre-13 PVP was nice with the powers and stuff, but it sucked balls because it was always like hard core pvpers owned the zone and didnt want anyone in. Well , mission accomplished on their part but that's bad for buisness by runnign off paying customers. And since the l33t group was small to begin with, they didnt stand a chance against the angry protests. Of course some of my coolest buddies was l33tz and left with the rest but if changing something to piss off a few people for the better for more then go for it. I see the concept behind I13 but dont think it worked out exactly as it was envisioned. Or maybe so depending on which side you're on. Many people are just glad the old d-wads as they became known are finally gone.

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You can shut up any day now.

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Actually, the person has a very valid point.

CoH is a business to extract profit as efficiently as possible. Funding is scarce, so naturally the devs will put more money into things that satisfy the most people.

Well, those of you who drive casual people away from PvP, the problem is completely self-inflicted. The less people who PvP, the lower amount of return the devs would get from funding any improvements in PvP.

If the "hardcore" PvPers want more attention to PvP stuff, then they better do a good job at retaining people to PvP, so the devs might actually think it's worthwhile to sink money into that aspect of gameplay.

There are far more money-paying PvP "newbs" than there are hardcore PvPers. When money talks, which group do you think will end up winning.

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There are far more money-paying PvP "newbs" than there are hardcore PvPers. When money talks, which group do you think will end up whining?

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Fix't

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Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit

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and we will always trash talk to the people that are too slow to find them.

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And this does what for whom exactly?

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Nice to see that PvP is still the no rules, no holds barred, cut you nads off with a rusty can top place that it has always been.

Seriously people, its COX PvP civility, fairness, caring about how the victim feels etc...does not come into the picture. COX PvP the City of Gank(COG). Thats what its all about adapt or forget about PvPing.

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Well, those of you who drive casual people away from PvP, the problem is completely self-inflicted. The less people who PvP, the lower amount of return the devs would get from funding any improvements in PvP.

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No, actually. They took a gamble when they redid the entire PvP system. When something isn't doing as well as you'd like it to, you don't ignore it, you put resources into it to make it better. However, their gamble kind of flopped because not only did many of the hardcore PvPers just up and leave (why adapt if it's not fun?), but there haven't been many new faces in the zones or arena either. I'd call that a failure, and - get this - it's not due to the PvPers.

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^^^^^ What Mac said but add the fact that the ones that remained still far outperform the newer players no matter what nerf or incantation gets thrown at them.

^^^^^ What Slax said and add the fact that whining won't save your a$$.

^^^^ what 15th said and add an address to Poopy that for every 1 pve person there is a pvp person with 3-4 accounts for pvp. You do the math cause the last time I checked most pve players are still just that .. pve players. Nc lost 20% of the subscriber base according to the latest poll. WHO do you think it was that left?

The problem with pvp in this game boils down to the the sensitive whiners that just can''t seperate A GAME from their precious character died. OMFG.... WHO cares?? Go have fun and quit trying to dictate to people how to play and what needs to happen so that pvp will be balanced and your subpar character will be "teh uber" solo.

I apologize for posting. I am really sick of this arguement and want to barf. This will cheer me up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NkoBsMTmkQ

Thats what I think about this thread. My opinion is my own but "har"

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Well as far as I'm concerned if I wanted to look at it in a selfish [censored] point of view. I can give a rat's behind about pvp and if it goes down the tube. Probably why I dont bother yaying or naying major changes, just comment on the results and maybe the reason. I just adapt. But when someone ask why, I might answer. Like I said I dont think I13 went totally as planned but hey, it's here now and I dont think it will change too much. PVP is just a borderline niche of this game and low priority as long as the pop stays low. And the way it's looking, looks like it will be like that for a while. PVPers might as well give it a rest and if they were serious about betterment of pvp, they would help instead of contributing to it's destruction. If they want the PVE people to have say and control what happens, then keep on, they are doing a very good job. I'm just waiting for I20 when every toon in pvp have the same stats. And it's a trickery of numbers if one person play 4 accounts which is like voting four times, but when it boils down to it, that is one person, playing four accounts so artificially tryign to inflate the population isnt helping the issue as even now it's still small as hell. I just hope it dissappears altogether so this nonsense can just stop. so irrational. [censored] it, at this point what would I tell the suicidal person. "Either jump or shut up."

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PVPers might as well give it a rest and if they were serious about betterment of pvp, they would help instead of contributing to it's destruction. If they want the PVE people to have say and control what happens, then keep on, they are doing a very good job.

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Not sure I get exactly what you are saying here. A rather large community of PvP'rs tried to help out the devs by telling them things that needed to be fixed to better PvP, ETC.

As far as my opinion on PvP, I think i13 did pretty much take an already bad system and made it worse. Then when people start adapting to i13, they ruin what they tried to do with i13 with i14. So now everyone will be rerolling or IO'ing to fix what i14 is now taking away. (Elusivity, ETC.)

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PVPers might as well give it a rest and if they were serious about betterment of pvp, they would help instead of contributing to it's destruction.

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When we're given access to the code and are allowed to make changes to the PvP code, then you're entitled to say that. Until then? We're not the ones "contributing to its destruction." The only people that are doing that are the terribad whiners who come into zones once and get pwned and then go cry instead of figuring out how to get better.

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ah, Elusivity was obviously was going to get nerfed. Should've seen that one coming. As fun and awesome as it may be, nerf was written all over it ever since it went live. Kind of surprised it lasted this long. and I have a Kat/SR scrap and when I went to a pvp zone and first time I've since all this miss and elusivity words flying everywhere and just about anyone I came across had no chance, the writing was on the wall. With no worries about being defeated took the excitement out of it.

And the ah so elusive chace of finding that FoTM. Flavor of the Month. Well FOTM only last so long until the next change comes along and give it to a new build. It's the nature of the game. Guess that's why they call it the FOTM. Uber today, not so in 30 days.

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PVPers might as well give it a rest and if they were serious about betterment of pvp, they would help instead of contributing to it's destruction.

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When we're given access to the code and are allowed to make changes to the PvP code, then you're entitled to say that. Until then? We're not the ones "contributing to its destruction." The only people that are doing that are the terribad whiners who come into zones once and get pwned and then go cry instead of figuring out how to get better.

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Maybe so, but do you have to pwn them too and throw salt on it by giving them an insult or two on the way out? If you throw salt, the target will get salty and might just whine with salt in their eyes. There's a difference between pwning someone and leaving it at that and pwning someone and being idiotic about it. Most people get pwned and do come back and try again, but get salty when the guy/gal doing the pwning feel that part of pwning is to belittle someone because they dont yet have the uber leet skills yet.

Yet are you suggesting that the so called whiners have access to the codes?

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Maybe so, but do you have to pwn them too and throw salt on it by giving them an insult or two on the way out?

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Nope. I don't talk smack in zones unless the other person is really deserving of it - for example, on Justice, there are several people who are really terrible PvPers. You can tell by the way they move or use their powers - but they do decently thanks to broken or FotM builds.

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If you throw salt, the target will get salty and might just whine with salt in their eyes. There's a difference between pwning someone and leaving it at that and pwning someone and being idiotic about it. Most people get pwned and do come back and try again, but get salty when the guy/gal doing the pwning feel that part of pwning is to belittle someone because they dont yet have the uber leet skills yet.

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If someone is truly hurt by what's said in broadcast, they have three options:

1. Deal with it
2. /ignore
3. Whine on the boards

Guess which most do?

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I don't think we're on the same page. I said give the PvPers access to the code, not the whiners.

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^^^^ what 15th said and add an address to Poopy that for every 1 pve person there is a pvp person with 3-4 accounts for pvp. You do the math cause the last time I checked most pve players are still just that .. pve players. Nc lost 20% of the subscriber base according to the latest poll. WHO do you think it was that left?



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"I'm not scared of anyone or anything Angie. Isn't that the way life should be?"
Jack Hawksmoor, The Authority.

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ah, Elusivity was obviously was going to get nerfed. Should've seen that one coming. As fun and awesome as it may be, nerf was written all over it ever since it went live. Kind of surprised it lasted this long. and I have a Kat/SR scrap and when I went to a pvp zone and first time I've since all this miss and elusivity words flying everywhere and just about anyone I came across had no chance, the writing was on the wall. With no worries about being defeated took the excitement out of it.

And the ah so elusive chace of finding that FoTM. Flavor of the Month. Well FOTM only last so long until the next change comes along and give it to a new build. It's the nature of the game. Guess that's why they call it the FOTM. Uber today, not so in 30 days.

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Just who do you think you are? What do you know of nerfs or buffs? Look at your sig. I realize a sig and run on sentences do not invalidate an opinion but c'mon?? I didn't list characters in my sig because I think it's a silly " toot a horn" to list 50's. However, some may think you are throwing salt in a wound listing your characters in your sig.Especially if said sig containes 40+ 50's.

The point ? The whiners got and continue to get their way. Too bad and so sad they will remain a step behind no matter how much they cry.

We all love this game or we wouldnt be here. No matter how many friends have left. No matter the changes.

No player can tell another player how to conduct themselves and to intimate that player attitude contributed to the demise of pvp in this game is ludicrous.

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That's one way of looking at it as seems like it worked wonders. So they come to the boards and whine, of course to make that "kitchen" a more comfortable spot. Which seems to be working very well from the looks of it.

And mac, I'm glad you dont throw salt but many of ya fellow pvpers do not refrain. and yes, many people do choose number 3, as it seems to get the best results, well somewhat in this case it seems.

If PVPers had access to codes then who would choose who is a pvper and who is not. Where do the casual pvper fit in? And what's to stop a person who is not so good at pvp and a little chip on their shoulder from claiming a pvper? I think in the end I13 changes would've been about the same as pvper is a title that comes and go. One minute a guy is a pvper but havent won a fight in ages and not even that well at it, compared to just a casual pvper who is awesome at it or the guy or gal that rolls in a pvp zone every blue moon asa break but know very well how pvp works and how to play it.

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