All you DOOOOM sayers, listen up. (PvP Population)

Why should a casual pvp'er be as good as a dedicated pvp'er? Why should a player that has dedicated time getting accolades and time invested in procurring the best for their character be penalized so the "casual" can have an even playing field? Why should the "casual" that invests 10 hours expect to be better than the dedicated that invests 200?Why do the dev's advocate the "casual"?

Therein lies the conundrem...

People who have a sense of self entitlement ruined pvp .. not the smacktalkers or pwners.

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becuase if that was abosolutely the case then this game would be no different from other MMORPG such as WoW and the likes. You state a valid point though I must say. And just because you spend 10 hours 100 hours and billions does not exactly make you uber all of a sudden. I've seen many people with uber builds on paper, and still get pwned by the casual player, some straight SOs. And then those people whine about it not being right that they spent countless hours on their toon only to get beat by a weekend casual pvper. And devs might advocate casual because not everyone is so black and white that seems to eb tossed aroudn sometimes. Either you're straight pvp or you should be straight pve, no middle. I dont think the devs wanted that. Which is simply ironic thinking since in order to have a pvp build anyways you must do some sort of pve anyways which in essence make a pvper actually a pveer but a pve person might not be a pvper at all. Like a square is a rectangle but a rectangle might not be a square.

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-Female Player-

OK. I'm getting sick of reading your walls of text rife with spelling and grammar errors. It's not even worth my time anymore.

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666
suit yaself. here i dont bother with grammar as in who cares. i spend good deal of time paying attention to that stuff but here, who cares. at least i dont. if you do then ok. funny how all of a sudden you bring up grammar as if yours is always perfect, and usually people do that when they have nothing more valid to say. Do what you do but there is no emotions here if that is what you are fishing for. But since ya not reading this anyways, I guess at this time I can say anything about you but I wont. Just because I can manage to write more than two words or you cant hold attention more than two lines doesnt mean I should dumb down my stuff. If it's too much for you to read, then dont read it. Not like I would know the difference as I never once asked you to read it in the first place. You chose to, just as you chose to can choose not to read it just as easily. If you cant even control your own choices, then are you even a master of yourself? Or are you a slave to your own mind and fleeting thoughts? Either way, looks like grammar is the last thing you should be pointing out. Maybe you should choose more wisely. 666

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-Female Player-

This turned out well...

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The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.

all quiet on the Western front.

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-Female Player-

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666
suit yaself. here i dont bother with grammar as in who cares. i spend good deal of time paying attention to that stuff but here, who cares. at least i dont. if you do then ok. funny how all of a sudden you bring up grammar as if yours is always perfect, and usually people do that when they have nothing more valid to say. Do what you do but there is no emotions here if that is what you are fishing for. But since ya not reading this anyways, I guess at this time I can say anything about you but I wont. Just because I can manage to write more than two words or you cant hold attention more than two lines doesnt mean I should dumb down my stuff. If it's too much for you to read, then dont read it. Not like I would know the difference as I never once asked you to read it in the first place. You chose to, just as you chose to can choose not to read it just as easily. If you cant even control your own choices, then are you even a master of yourself? Or are you a slave to your own mind and fleeting thoughts? Either way, looks like grammar is the last thing you should be pointing out. Maybe you should choose more wisely. 666

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Eh, just here to say that, even tho i may not be good about this all the time, most people wont read it and just plain wont care. Just sayin, pressin the enter key isnt askin to much man.

PS, This thread needs one big chill pill, people gettin so mad in here. y so ceerius

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no feelings here.
yet some people are a bit sensitive.
no matter.

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-Female Player-

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no feelings here.
yet some people are a bit sensitive.
no matter.

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Ey man, u found the enter key

*claps*

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Now he needs to find the shift key and the brain key and he'll be set.

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Now he needs to find the shift key and the brain key and he'll be set.

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I found a brain key, it was in wisconsin, go figure

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Hm, first of all you should not use words you dont know the meaning of, such as brain. That word is a bit too advanced for you right now.

And second of all who the [censored] ever said I was a he, numbnut? What? are you trying to suggest that only males play games? Hm, try to get your own chain of thought into current times before you challenge someone elses. Well I guess with your chain of thought is that anyoen who disagree with you or challenges your answer that is illogical to begin with must be stupid. Sounds kind of childish. Cant win them on a intel level so you resort to childish behavior that fit for a two year old. Oh well, I guess everyone cant be the same. Someone have to be the knuckle draggers.

Plus there is no word limits. If my posts are too long, no one is forcing you to read them at all. I'm going to say what I want to say when I want to say it and how long I feel like saying it. If you read it, I dotn care. If not i dont care. But if I feel like writing 20 pages, I will and what the hell you goign to do about it? Read it like you are doing anyways even though you said you will stop? Is it that compelling or you cant even control your own brain, slave.

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-Female Player-

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And second of all who the [censored] ever said I was a he, numbnut? What? are you trying to suggest that only males play games?

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Wait up, just for my info, are u a chick? 'Cuz it might just be me or w/e im smokin rite nao, but my oh my u sound like a dude...

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how do I sound like a dude over a forum that makes no sound? All this is nothing but an arrangement of words on a screen in a particular order to get a particular point across.

Everything else is added by the reader.

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-Female Player-

lol take a chill and relax man/mam, just tryin to exist around here

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who is getting angry? I'm not angry at all. No point in getting angry here.
Like I said it's just all words on a screen. The reader adds everything else (i.e emotions that are usually not there to begin with.)

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-Female Player-

Bein all srs up in here

Words placed in particular order used in certain contexts can give the impression of anger and other emotions....oh god im thinking rationally


u sound impatient

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nah, maybe rushed. as I tend to do many things at once. Like most of the time here I'm on the phone, playing ches, playing COH and searching wikipedia all in a cycle so here I dont worry about too much about grammar and all that other nonsense. DO that 8 hours a day anyways and have no desire to try to do it here too where I'm not even paid for it.

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-Female Player-

Omg wut joo say bout teh elephants?

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nothing important really this time.

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-Female Player-

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nothing important really this time.

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Joo be a channel 4 reporter now?

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this whole thread is full of LOLs... but evil is right to an extent just like mac is right to a extent

zone is a zone, cant let a few bad apples ruin the whole pot. ur gonna get ganked. Just come back stronger next time.

But i can see how people can get discouraged to come back if the first time they came they are scourned for not being superior. and in the end dont we want more people to fight not take away.

good points all of ya

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I agree good points all around. But when people say PvP is dead because of trash talkers, ETC. All I have to say is obviously you're not meant to PvP. I still to this day get ganked and trash talked too.

Only difference is I "LOL' at it, find a way to kill the trash talker and move on. Usually adding a "" right after I kill them. Oh how a smiley can really tick a person.

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Problem is, Evil is attributing it to "PvP'ers" as a whole, when that's just idiocy. To assume that anyone in a PvP zone is responsible for the actions of anyone else is just so wrong, I can hardly imagine how one could feel that way.

Saying "it's all your own fault" is as accurate as saying "it's no one's fault". The individuals responsible are just that, individuals. They should not be considered to represent PvP as a whole.

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"the reason there are so many sarcastic pvpers is we already had a better version of pvp taken away from us to appease bad players. Back then we chuckled at how bad players came here and whined. If we knew that was the actual voice devs would listen to instead of informed, educated players we probably would have been bigger dicks back then." -ConFlict

What Rei said. ^ ^ ^

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