Discussion: Purchasable Character Respecs

Put more stuff up for purchase, please. Whatever else you have planned, it's really not reaching us fast enough.

Where's the costume jetpack add-on pack?

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CoX already has the "have and have nots." just take a look at the market forums. this is a good step in my opinion. it allows the "casual" (and i use the term loosely) player to just drop a couple bucks to get a respec, instead of playing the market for a couple of hours or so. it's more options, and i welcome our new financial overlords.

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why would you do that though. why pay 2/3rds of a monthly fee for something you could earn the cash for in less than a week? (less than a day if you want to)


I understand why they'll make this option available but still, why do this when you can earn it easily in the game?

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Or, what I feel is much more likely, when billy needs a respec, he will spend his $10 with a rmt and have inf left over.(depending on the going rate).

I can see them adding respecs to their list of services.

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Oh, and those of you that think this is just horrible. That NCSoft wants to "soak us for money, boo hoo" or words to that effect, let me just say that last I heard NCSoft is a business. And their business is making money. If they don't make money then they can't pay their people, they can't hire more people, etc. Those of you that are criticizing them for adding this option are essentially criticizing Wal-Mart when they add new items to their stock. More things to sell to their customers means more choices for their customers and more money for the company. Please allow me to welcome you to the Real World(TM), where everything runs not on gasoline or electricity, but on money.

Of course if you don't want to pay $10 for a respec please remember that no one will hold an Assault Rifle to your head and force you to do so.


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This is exactly true. You pay for what you want. If you don't want it, don't pay for it. There are enough ways in-game to accomplish the same thing. I'd trully rather have them offer these features for a price and make money to help support the game rather than raise our prices ever 12 months to play it.

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I spent more than $10 on lunch today. On lunch. And three hours later I was hungry again. Kinda seems like a waste huh?

My point is that $10 really is nothing for those of us that have a job. For those folks that don't, the free time that they do have should allow them to do whatever they do to earn the inf to purchase the respec recipe.

It seems to me that this goes a little way towards balancing the Hardcore vs Casual players situation.

Oh, and those of you that think this is just horrible. That NCSoft wants to "soak us for money, boo hoo" or words to that effect, let me just say that last I heard NCSoft is a business. And their business is making money. If they don't make money then they can't pay their people, they can't hire more people, etc. Those of you that are criticizing them for adding this option are essentially criticizing Wal-Mart when they add new items to their stock. More things to sell to their customers means more choices for their customers and more money for the company. Please allow me to welcome you to the Real World(TM), where everything runs not on gasoline or electricity, but on money.

Of course if you don't want to pay $10 for a respec please remember that no one will hold an Assault Rifle to your head and force you to do so.

- I'm Peregrine Falcon, and I approve this message.

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OMG...

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@Battle Ant

The Omega Guard / Evil Midgets Incorporated

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OMG ! Thank you Devs ! Sure I can earn one in game, but having the option to buy one - Very Nice ! Thanks again.

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**Damien**
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[Huge Wall Of Text that many will misconstrue and I could care less. Quote and Misquote away.]

I think this is absolutely fabulous news. Now, beyond a shadow of a doubt, the respec recipes (which were one of the last few things I got lucky on in an attempt to get "something" out of the market") are absolutely worthless.

While we're at it guys, let's sell Purple/IO Set enhancements, Salvages, Costume Tokens, and what the hell...Badges.

Then we can merge the markets in the "Recycle Bin".

Bitter, Psychotically Misguided, Unlucky, Resentful....Nah....I'll just go knock over the local liquor store. I'll be purpled out in no time, vs the 28.9 years it's gonna take the way the shake gets snoogered.

/obligatoryD00Msuxxitzpost.

Realistically, now that my accounts net worth has plumetted yet again I guess I'll pull the recipes for when I need em, save myself $300 real money and use that Real Money to....


...No, sorry, I'm not gonna waste $300 in response to an ingame email prmoisngi me u3br3 geer form <www.screwyou.rmt>

...pay rent, food, and other tangible needs.

Eventually, anyone with enough real money will be able to get everything they need or want in this game. Those loyalists who can barely afford the game will still be left behind.

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I spent more than $10 on lunch today. On lunch. And three hours later I was hungry again. Kinda seems like a waste huh?

My point is that $10 really is nothing for those of us that have a job. For those folks that don't, the free time that they do have should allow them to do whatever they do to earn the inf to purchase the respec recipe.

It seems to me that this goes a little way towards balancing the Hardcore vs Casual players situation.

Oh, and those of you that think this is just horrible. That NCSoft wants to "soak us for money, boo hoo" or words to that effect, let me just say that last I heard NCSoft is a business. And their business is making money. If they don't make money then they can't pay their people, they can't hire more people, etc. Those of you that are criticizing them for adding this option are essentially criticizing Wal-Mart when they add new items to their stock. More things to sell to their customers means more choices for their customers and more money for the company. Please allow me to welcome you to the Real World(TM), where everything runs not on gasoline or electricity, but on money.

Of course if you don't want to pay $10 for a respec please remember that no one will hold an Assault Rifle to your head and force you to do so.

- I'm Peregrine Falcon, and I approve this message.

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OMG...

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I know, right?! LOL...

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I understand selling content (wedding costumes), and slots per server & transfers (ostensibly to help keep server populations in check).

I even understand - but never cared for - respec recipes. They're stupid. People want a respec, unlock the limiter on the respec trial. It'll keep people playing the game, probably get more people playing since generally you need a team. Respec recipes on the other hand... just random luck. Some poor fool is going to get to sell it for 15 million inf on the market. Okay, that keeps people playing, too, so they can afford to buy the stupid random drops from lucky saps.

But now you're selling respecs and undercutting your own damn business! You've now just told us all you'd rather have us give you $10 than spend 2, or 3 or 5 or 10 hours playing the game.

Next you'll take away all the costumes and start selling them, right? Buy the medieval armor pack for $10! Get it and the tech armors for $15! Oh, but you still have to play the game for 200 hours and kill a million rikti to get enough merits for the vanguard costume pieces.

I hope nobody's superstitious about Issue 13, 'cause I'm getting a bad feeling about the shape of things to come...

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I'm extremely sorry but I just cant resist my guess at the future:

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City of Heroes has expanded their suite of available purchasable services to include Maxed Level Characters.

Optional Maxed Level Purchase is available via the in-game store found at the character select screen for the per transaction price of $49.99 USD.

There are already multiple in-game methods that players can obtain achieve max level. Now, if the convenience of purchasing a Maximun Level is desired, it is available. Having a purchasable option has been an often heard desire from the game's customers.

Once players purchase a Maxed Level, they must then visit a Trainer Contact in-game to use it, in the same manner as your currently hard earned powers are acquired. The Trainers include: Back Alley Brawler in Galaxy City and Arbiter Diaz in Mercy Island.

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That's satire... right?

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I think the idea of being able to purchase respecs is a good one, though the price is a bit high.

The monetary value of a respec to me would be closer to $5.

I understand that NC Soft gets dingged with a transaction fee when charging to a credit card, and that $5 wouldn't be worth incurring this fee. Perhaps you could issue two respecs for $10?

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I'm extremely sorry but I just cant resist my guess at the future:

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Talk about people I have come to expect better from, on the forums. Following a slippery slope to a place that nothing in the history of the game would give us any inclination that the dev team would support (if they remove snake egg farming because it let people get PL'd to 50 in under 48 hours, with millions to spend kitting out such a character, how could they ever justify, with a straight face, letting someone *buy* a level 50?) is fairly remarkable. Was it meant to be satire? If so, it didn't quite work for me.

I'm glad to see the option introduced. I'll never use it, and the amount of doom-crying it's generated is a little depressing, but it seems like it meets a viable need in a reasonable way.

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You know, one day I fully expect to come in here to learn that the Devs have announced something like "In addition to oodles of other new content, I13 will double the number of costume options for players", only to find dozens of players decrying too many costume options as the ruination of the game!

And maybe it's because I'm typing this at the end of a particularly taxing day at work, but I completely fail to comprehend how the fact that someone can afford to spend $10 on a respec somehow makes the game less enjoyable for someone who can't. Other than PvP, how does someone respecing their character even affect another player?

As for playing the market to earn sufficient influence to buy a respec recipe in a matter of a few days or a week, I personally didn't sign on to a Super Hero roleplaying game so I could spend time standing around a consignment house buying and selling commodities like a virtual stockbroker. I try to maximize the amount I earn for the drops I recieve, but I don't have the patience nor the inclination to track market trends, flip salvage, or buy low and sell high when I could be out teaming with my friends and beating the tar out of bad guys (or good guys).

I may purchase one of these at some point, but I won't be purchasing them often. So far, in seven months of playing, I've used exactly one freespec.

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You know, one day I fully expect to come in here to learn that the Devs have announced something like "In addition to oodles of other new content, I13 will double the number of costume options for players", only to find dozens of players decrying too many costume options as the ruination of the game!

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Ye Gods. I would not be surprised in the least.

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There are also those that wish for something so that they can not lose a bunch of good IO's on a respec since you can only save 10 at most. This new feature would allow someone that wants to salvage a lot of IO's for their alts to plan a respec, save some of the IO's and reinstall the rest then purchase another respec and repeat until they save all the IO's they want.

Granted at $10 a respec its not the most ideal solution but at least its something.

Still, yay to more options!

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At the price of $10 per respec, I'm certainly never going to use it.

Server transfer, meh. A little high for my taste, but sure. Extra slots on a server I felt was a good deal - less than the cost of opening a slot up by moving someone, and the higher-priced package deals are a good incentive.

But $10 for a respec?! At the cost of the respec recipes on the market, I'm going to have to side with those that have said that for around the same cost, you can follow one of those RMT spam emails that you've been trying so hard to get rid of and pick up enough influence/infamy to buy several respec recipes and still have some left over.

It's not that it's a bad idea, it's that it's hideously overpriced compared to already existing means of getting them, and to top it off you don't even have the convenience of it being a freespec which you can use anywhere. Hm..there's a thought: $10 for a freespec to all characters on the account?

I certainly don't mind the attempt to generate extra cash flow (it's a business after all), but I can't think of anyone who would use the service at the current pricing.

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Now what they should do is charge 10 bucks per month for forum access. Us knuckleheads wouldn't be able to stay away.

COV/H forums ftw! FTW!!!

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DoooooMMM ?

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OK now thats out of the way. I can never see a way shape or form that I would ever pay for this service. Heck most of my 50s have all 3 earnt by trial respecs left.

That said, like many others I 100% support this service as an extra option, especially with Posi's comment later in the thread.

Thanks NCNC for making more services available.

(oh and any chance the ingame store can be fixed to work more often than not, which is not the case wheneve I have tried to use it)

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The way I see it you have options.

3 respecs from trials
respecs from vetrans
respecs from new issue launches
respec from rare (VERY) recipe

and if by some fluke you have exausted ALL those options, then dropping a quick 10 bucks cant hurt. for those players that have been around way too long.

besides somketimes Im just not in the mood to run thru a 2+ hour trial.

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Disappointing.. Another step towards CoX developing a "Cash Shop" that developes more have and have nots.

Very disappointing to say the least.

-Kiri

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Yeah, more choices for the playerbase is NOT what the playerbase needs. What we need is a BIG RED BALL.

BIG RED BALL. Because it just makes SENSE.

/sarcasm

(BTW, I found a globish artifact that gets dropped by Propel that makes a darn good big red ball template... had an Underboss throw one at me... spent a few minutes kicking that around Sharkhead.)

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$10 respec is overpriced imo compared to the trial/vet/freespecs/recipes that will still be availible and coming out. I would be ticked if this option replaced issue freespecs but since it doesn't I'm not.

This compares to character slots, wedding pack, server transfer, rename and all the other administrative stuff they've made available for purchase over the years. It has little to no actual impact in how you play the game. It's not some uber power or something that gives you a leg up over everyone else. It's not a level purchase system by any stretch of the imagination.

Altho for $10 they really should give a respec to every character you have or make i.e. you buy a respec, you now have a single respec on all your chars and if you make a new char he gets a respec too and so on. New players who don't even have one vetspec and don't know about or want to do a trial respec can now have this insurance.

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CoX already has the "have and have nots." just take a look at the market forums. this is a good step in my opinion. it allows the "casual" (and i use the term loosely) player to just drop a couple bucks to get a respec, instead of playing the market for a couple of hours or so. it's more options, and i welcome our new financial overlords.

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why would you do that though. why pay 2/3rds of a monthly fee for something you could earn the cash for in less than a week? (less than a day if you want to)


I understand why they'll make this option available but still, why do this when you can earn it easily in the game?

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Sure, you could spend a few days or so in game earning influence to buy a respec recipe, or, if you don't have that kind of time (i.e. you have a JOB), you can earn real money in real life and spend a small portion of that money you've earned to buy a respec.

Personally, I don't like spending real money on anything but the subscription fee - It's just a game to me and not that important to have an on-demand respec. However, I can certainly see why other people might like having that option, so I applaud this addition.

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I'm extremely sorry but I just cant resist my guess at the future:

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City of Heroes has expanded their suite of available purchasable services to include Maxed Level Characters.

Optional Maxed Level Purchase is available via the in-game store found at the character select screen for the per transaction price of $49.99 USD.

There are already multiple in-game methods that players can obtain achieve max level. Now, if the convenience of purchasing a Maximun Level is desired, it is available. Having a purchasable option has been an often heard desire from the game's customers.

Once players purchase a Maxed Level, they must then visit a Trainer Contact in-game to use it, in the same manner as your currently hard earned powers are acquired. The Trainers include: Back Alley Brawler in Galaxy City and Arbiter Diaz in Mercy Island.

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I LOL'd

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Sign It : http://www.change.org/petitions/ncso...city-of-heroes

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If you have any wits about you at all, you'd realize what a horrible business decision it would be to suddenly take away things that have existed for years in the game just because they decided to offer a monetary way to obtain them. The loss of respect and subscriber dollars over something that greedy would be huge.

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We were talking about freespecs, not all respecs. Plz read again kthx.

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Freespecs are given when powers are altered; they're not just "freebies" from the devs for poops n' giggles. There's no reason on earth they'd stop giving those out.

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Personally, I think it's fantastic. Especially with Posi confirming they won't get rid of the options that already exist. It's unlikely I'll use it, but I may just at some point. Having the option to do so is wonderful to me.

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