Discussion: New Powerset Screenshot
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Posted on: 2007-09-28 10:26 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
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Ok, I've figured out what was turning me off from Dual Blades. After blowing the pics up as big as I could, it's the picture of the female that was throwing me off of the actual size of the swords and their thickness. Seeing her hold them makes them look huge and skinny, but if you look at the 4th picture with the guy fighting Clockwork, they actually do look cool with the different hilt and curved blade. They've got a good thickness and length to them.
And looking at the poses again makes me giddy to think of what a giant, chain of attacks will look like 
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The female model's hands suffer bad scaling with dual pistols as well. Even tried monsterous ones for a Female MM... just wasn't cutting it for me visualy. Theyre fantastic with the two male models though. Perhaps the gals could use a tweek in hand size/finger length all around?
I know when I read Dual Blades...I figured it would be daggers, like the Red Caps.
I know...I know...it's wrong to think it, but if we were to have Dual Swords, I would have really hoped for something more "must ignore physics/reality" type blades. Like you see in Final Fantasy
As for Willpower. I have no gripe about the glow. I only wish it was the psi armor I was hoping Willpower would be.
Oh well. Two new sets = greatness for scrappers/tankers, no matter what. Even if I don't play em. ANd if DB animations look cool, that might make up for the skins.
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I had thought Dual Blades would be more a Dagger set than another Sword set. And why sabers? Are we trying to reinforce the pirate theme going on in the Rogue Isles or something?
As for Will Power. Um.. as many have said we were hoping for a more subtle, possibly even invisible power effects for our Natural origin melee heroes. What is with the canary yellow Sonic auras here guys? Is it really necessary to have a visual effect for every single defensive set in the game? Come on.
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Agreed, tone them down please.
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I really wish we could get a couple more folks who like the look of dual blades in here. It's just a bit depressing reading all these statements dogging their look without any counter-arguements.
I really think that the blades aren't all that huge but the screenshots are kind of misleading on size.
As for the golden-hue of Willpower, well there is precedent. Miss Liberty, wife of Statesman, grandmother of the current Miss Liberty was a MA/Willpower scrapper. She would have a golden glow materialize around her after a while from practicing.
Anyway Dev's good job on the blades and I can't wait to see how they look in actual combat.
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Don't you mean Maiden Justice?
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You say TO-MAY-TOE I say big red blueberry.
And for the record I'm so happy they didn't go with daggers and even happier than that they didn't go with a reversed grip (knife going down from the palm instead of up from the thumb.)
Yes I know daggers are more lethal but they lack the chutzpah that spinning two scimitars have.
As for the reverse grip, well that's just not a good way to hold a knife. Don't believe me? Go to your favorite steakhouse or just grill up one yourself and try cutting the steak while holding the knife down that way.
Anyway, if I keep hearing folks asking for shorter blades/daggers I'm going to start championing these.
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I thought I read that either Posi or BaB has said that the Willpower shots were a bit misleading. They are activation shots as opposed to the normal look of the powers affect on the character. I'm sure I read it somewhere, but can't for the life of me remember where..... carp, now I sound like I'm just talking out my rear without evidence, but I'm not.
As for the scimitars.... I'm taking it as a personal challenge to come up with a workable concept that is not: pirate/ninja/drow/legolas/nomad/barbarian.
Why? Just to prove the versatility of any set. I don't have a problem with the look of them, except that it's ANOTHER sword set. But that's not a looks-issue, so it's a moot point here.
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I thought I read that either Posi or BaB has said that the Willpower shots were a bit misleading. They are activation shots as opposed to the normal look of the powers affect on the character. I'm sure I read it somewhere, but can't for the life of me remember where..... carp, now I sound like I'm just talking out my rear without evidence, but I'm not.
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It was BaB; I don't recall exactly where, either.
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I like how the sets appear, however, why was it stressed so much that it was Dual blades and not Dual swords?...
There were a few threads that this was stressed. ( I am a whitebelt at search-fu sorry no links)
lol search-fu. That's ok.. i could have swore it was Dual Blades as well.
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As for the scimitars.... I'm taking it as a personal challenge to come up with a workable concept that is not: pirate/ninja/drow/legolas/nomad/barbarian.
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Already ahead of you. I'm making a psychic coldblooded killer who is dual blades/ willpower, who materializes the blades from her mind. Sure if Psy weaponry ever comes out I'll reroll her, but I want a brute and dualblades/willpower works fine with her since they're new and I don't like energy/ ;p
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I think the idea of having the ability to dual wield knives would be cooler. I agree that the length of these are way too long. Even something similar to what the redcaps wield, except design them differently. Give them a unique shape, something! So much potential...*sigh*.
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Well, I tested it, and even the Red Cap blades are fairly large as well. If you want to see the other results, you can check them out here.
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Well, I tested it, and even the Red Cap blades are fairly large as well. If you want to see the other results, you can check them out here.
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Nice job Nuetra! Maybe we can get a bunch of people to back your this idea up and get those blades and ideas instead of the crappy looking ones we saw on http://news.curse.com/details/3213/ .
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THIS is way cool! Haven't even seen those guys in game yet.
Still like this too.
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Wrist mounted energy blades?? Now that would be cool!
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So disappointed. I was hoping for something that has not been used in warfare for hundreds of years. Something futuristic. Katana, Broad sword, War Axe, Mace I mean cmon, Isn't that enough. Minus well just give them a baseball bat. At least give the swords (or blades) a glow or flames or something that does not look like my daughters Halloween pirate costume.
gripe and moan! New power sets are new power sets! Animations, and you can't step on BAB for doing all that work because YOU don't like the way they look. I for one am looking forward to them! You want light sabers, go to SWG! I hear they are so bad they are giving them away ^_~ Flames? Go play WoW, I hear thats the bandwagon.
I for one like the way the blades turned out, after all it's not dual daggers, which seems to be alot of what people seemed to have wanted.
Psi Weaponry is next as well as shields, it's my firm belief that we'll get everyone one of those power sets, only that preference one which ones came first was the point of the power set polls!
Besides, they have to test that shield tech, electric hammer tech and psi weaponry for another game :P
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For those who are "less than happy" with the look of the Dual Blade screenshots released, please keep in mind that it's still early in the release process with time to polish up features and you don't know all the features included in Issue 11 yet. As we move into October more details will be coming out so hang on to your hats (or blades, or whatever )
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How about passing on the concept of being able to chose your blades? Future, Relic, Mystical, Sammy, ect from the option menu? I bet that would quell alot of problems. I know Posi once said that the powers origin for blasts points and colors were "hard baked" but why not rework the new sets? Then see if you can backwards engineer it I mean, we can send a man into orbit ^^ <shrugs> Where is posi anyway, every since he got a head you never see him anymore ;P
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I am not upset with the way the blades look, I just wish you would be doing something more superheroic with new powersets. I am not too aware outside of the Punisher/Wolverine of any SuperHeroes running around with death weapons and at least the Punisher uses modern weaponary. Swords is not a beat up and arrest the bad guy type of weapon. I like this game because it is SUPER HEROs not D&D fantasy online attempt.
I guess everyone that is a superhero fan seems to be suffering from Wolverine envy. You gave us claws, now duel blades for villains I can understand the duel wields, but for heros I would think more along the lines of billy clubs (daredevil) batons, and you do understand Elektra was a villain before Daredevil converted her. To be honest I do not really consider ninjas SuperHero material they are assassins and exactly what super heros would attempt to stop.
This is just my two cents, I am glad lots of people like them and seem very happy to get them. I do understand the ability to allow everyone to get a chance to enjoy some aspect of the game.
I am curious if they are working on a Wind Powerset. THey already have earth, water(Ice), fire...guess you could sorta say Storm is air but only defenders and controllers ATs have the ability to take it, I would like to see a blaster or corrupter get some type of wind blasting set.
Willpower seems to be an interesting concept for an armor but wonder how it will differ from Invulnerability. Hopefully it will not be a toggle/Endurance heavy beast.
Please give us more super power sets instead of weapons that are used in every other MMO on the market, you have the potential to be really unique in what you offer so putting out Dual Blades to me is lack of creativity and sorta wasted money of development for powersets. I do agree the Tank AT really needed some new powersets, the Brute has 6 to 8 choices for primary and secondary.
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I am curious if they are working on a Wind Powerset. THey already have earth, water(Ice), fire...guess you could sorta say Storm is air but only defenders and controllers ATs have the ability to take it, I would like to see a blaster or corrupter get some type of wind blasting set.
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A Wind blaster set would just be a primarily smashing set... It's probably a more AoE focused rehash of Energy. Because if it DID have something other than smashing..... it's probably be lethal actually because of any debris that would cause the wind to pick up. I just don't see enough options to create a full 9 power set for Wind... Well... Without stealing something from the Defenders/Controllers.
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For those who are "less than happy" with the look of the Dual Blade screenshots released, please keep in mind that it's still early in the release process with time to polish up features and you don't know all the features included in Issue 11 yet. As we move into October more details will be coming out so hang on to your hats (or blades, or whatever )
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at this pooint i gotta say this is what were getting and in no way will they change the look now ..so as far as "waiting" goes
at the end of the day..the lack of effort on the look of these is what is most lacking and disapppointing
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For those who are "less than happy" with the look of the Dual Blade screenshots released, please keep in mind that it's still early in the release process with time to polish up features and you don't know all the features included in Issue 11 yet. As we move into October more details will be coming out so hang on to your hats (or blades, or whatever )
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How about passing on the concept of being able to chose your blades? Future, Relic, Mystical, Sammy, ect from the option menu? I bet that would quell alot of problems. I know Posi once said that the powers origin for blasts points and colors were "hard baked" but why not rework the new sets? Then see if you can backwards engineer it I mean, we can send a man into orbit ^^ <shrugs> Where is posi anyway, every since he got a head you never see him anymore ;P
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For those who are "less than happy" with the look of the Dual Blade screenshots released, please keep in mind that it's still early in the release process with time to polish up features and you don't know all the features included in Issue 11 yet. As we move into October more details will be coming out so hang on to your hats (or blades, or whatever )
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LH you are awsome. I think that in its self is an i11 hint! Thanks also for letting us know we are being heard.
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How about a "still in development" video then as a teaser? I'd put you on my Christmas card list if you did! 
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For those who are "less than happy" with the look of the Dual Blade screenshots released, please keep in mind that it's still early in the release process with time to polish up features and you don't know all the features included in Issue 11 yet. As we move into October more details will be coming out so hang on to your hats (or blades, or whatever )
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How about passing on the concept of being able to chose your blades? Future, Relic, Mystical, Sammy, ect from the option menu? I bet that would quell alot of problems. I know Posi once said that the powers origin for blasts points and colors were "hard baked" but why not rework the new sets? Then see if you can backwards engineer it
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I liked what you've done here. You went from "how about Power Customization?" when we've been told time and time again why we won't see that in the near future, to equating changing the colors of blasts (which is the easiest part of the thing that will take dev-years to do) to changing weapon models, which I imagine is even more complicated.
Suffice it to say this is not going to happen. I agree with the poster above that what we see now is pretty much what we're going to get.
You don't have to like it, but realize that the workaround suggested is not going to happen for I11.
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I do agree with the damage type but you could come up with 9 Powers for a set form wind, yea I would imagine some being taken out of Storm powerset. Could be like Tornado(aoe that does knockup/moderate smashing), Gush(take it from the storm set that does knockback minor dmg),for your minor/rech fast moderate/moderate heavy(superior, extreme)/slow focused wind tunnels come off the hands for your single target Wind Blasts ( Similar to what the Flash does sometimes). call down Lighting ( end drain, SUperior Dmg, maybe aoe, leaves u out of endurance for awhile final power), for the AoE location power could be a Hurricane type of effect like the Ice AoE final blasting power but with clouds and so heavy of rain with lighting striking in it( It could be neat looking ). Could throw in a build up for one of the powers since most attack oriented sets get one. Maybe throw in a power similiar to Teleknisis(strong pushback) but change the animation and call it Wind Fury or whatever. Just afew ideas off th top of my head.
Just would like to see the wind attack power I feel there is plenty of ideas for 9 powers to make a set.
Like the dual blades. Perhaps in future, devs can give animation choices for these and many other powers.
Willpower is a lil yellowish for me, but I could make it into an aura with a little imagination.
Good job devs. For issue 12, lets get choices of power colors and weapon type. Dual blades could then be the way they are, the vanguard sort or dagger like. Anyway, lot to ask, but start working out it. Let my NRG blaster blast in red, blue, white or purple. Give me three ninja blades to choose from. Give me cat claws, wolverine pop claws, etc....