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that just sounds RUDE.
One thing to keep in mind for people who say they don't have enough time to ever do a Task Force.
Almost every single Task Force/Strike Force can be soloed.
Yep. It's true. For example, if you have a level 47 alt and have never done a TF/SF because you can never play more than an hour, all you have to do is get in-game friends to form a team to start the TF/SF with the correct number of players and make sure that one of them is on a level appropriate alt that they don't plan on playing for a while.
As soon as the TF/SF starts, everyone can log to a different alt, without quitting the TF/SF, leaving their TF/SF alt in limbo until you are done.
You can then solo the SF/TF with spawns set for 1 player. The only problem you will have is the AV at the end but when you get there you can ask your friends to log back into those alts and help and use inspirations/temp powers to finish them.
You can do all of this taking your own sweet time because if you log off after each hour of play, you will still be in the TF/SF when you log back on. You can spend a month doing it if you like.
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This reply from the "Trim" Lady?
Oh my... 
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I'd still rather have Pools A, C, and D and make Pool B (Story Arcs) contain a nice subset of some of what can be obtained in both Pools C and D. That way the reusable content (A C and D) contains everything one could possibly want, while Story Arcs get you valuable things via soloing that you could otherwise only get via teaming (C and D).
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That's a good idea too. Not exactly what I'd ask for, but a very good idea. I think I'd expand that to be Pool B contains all of Pool C and D. And for the same reasons.
That still doesn't help the 50's, but it's a great idea for the rest of the players. More Arcs, or some repeatable Arcs, for 50's combined with that Idea might work.
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Currently the only content available for 50s is...
Killing stuff on the street.
News/Scanner, Mayhem/Safeguard. (and Shard stuff is similar.) = repeatable 1-off missions.
Trials
TFs
The suggestion above helps 50s by not limiting certain drops to an area of content 50's don't have access to.
Yes, you could have another system that doesn't make those drops exclusive, you make their area of content available to 50s. However, the suggestion helps the Devs by not requiring such coding at this time. I guess a different plan could be to drop Pool B completely, then later on code both a Story Arc system for 50s and a whole new set of recipies for that system so that both pieces go in at the same time, but I doubt they could do that now without delaying I9.
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Yup, that does have a certain twist to it.
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I lol'd, seriously. 
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I've been on these boards too long.
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To my mind there are only two acceptable solutions:
Distribute story arc recipes to the general loot tables (they can still drop from the story arcs)
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Flashback.
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Or they could add some infinitely repeatable story arcs for level 50 characters.
I'm not sure how Flashback would work in this case, since you might be stuck with lower level recipes. That's on top of finding the arcs among the lower level content in the first place.
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Much as I'd love the Flashback system to be introduced, two of my characters have done EVERY single story arc in the game. The only one they're missing is new Faultline because it was introduced a loooong time after they hit 50. So the Flashback system wouldn't help much to those who already collected every souvenir.
That said, please, I _do_ want the Flashback system. If only to complete the dozens of non-story arc missions I outlevelled on the way.
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I've been on these boards too long.
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Bwa ha!
Another one corrupted.
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Inventions has been touted as something that shelved level 50's can partake in. Level 50's that have completed all their story arcs already. Please, how can both of those occur? Level 50's can not experience IO's if they are locked out of acheiving specific rewards because they happened to hit the level cap before I9.
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It's like I said, we are looking into other options that keeps the mechanic of the four pool system. Our intention is to not make people feel "gimped" for previously completing all their story arcs.
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Please keep this in mind when posting. No need to get too worked up folks! We appreciate the feedback, thanks!
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As a simpler (hopefully) solution, could the Story Arc rewards pool be tied to Mayhem mission/Safeguard mission completion, just for the mission owner? It'll still keep the four pools, and shouldn't require too many changes, but it'll at least make it easier for teams to work together to earn recipes from that Pool B if they so choose, and level 50s can continue to access Mayhem/Safeguard missions.
You might have to have a mixed rate (such as a 50% chance of getting lower level Pool B recipe, or a 50% chance of a Pool A recipe and a 50% recipe of Pool B) to make up for the tendency for hero story arcs to require more missions, but I think even that would be preferable.
I'm just concerned that one of the very few Pool B recipes will end up being something that would really make my character more enjoyable (knockback protection for many blasters, for example, would be one), and I don't want to end up having to leech or beg or flood the auction house for a chance for such a reward.
I am listening to your ideas, but a Flashback system is simply not something we can implement in a timeframe you would all be happy with.
Instead we are looking into other options to get you the Pool B choice so level 50s don't feel gimped.
I prefer: "Drops II: The Wrath of Story Arcs"
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Instead we are looking into other options to get you the Pool B choice so level 50s don't feel gimped.
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Any hints?
We need way more info to get good and frothing mad.
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Instead we are looking into other options to get you the Pool B choice so level 50s don't feel gimped.
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That's what we needed to hear. Thank you.
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I'd still rather have Pools A, C, and D and make Pool B (Story Arcs) contain a nice subset of some of what can be obtained in both Pools C and D. That way the reusable content (A C and D) contains everything one could possibly want, while Story Arcs get you valuable things via soloing that you could otherwise only get via teaming (C and D).
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I'll also add, Story Arcs can be done by any team, even solo, even PuGs. This could finally give more incentive for more people to engage in the Story in the game. Engaging in the Story of an RPG, that could be a novel idea.
Still sharing rewards, or auto-exempt flashback, or something would need to be done for the 50's so they can share. Simply sharing rewards might be the best choice, making Story Arcs the most popular part of the game. Wow, Story Arcs Popular in an RPG.
Of course I'm assuming CoH is supposed to be an RPG, that could be a bad assumption.
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I just want to second any other person's concerns that this is a bad idea... Knowing the trials and TFs is a relatively minimal task once you get associated with the game. Knowing all the story arcs, level ranges that apply, and contacts that apply isn't a very easy task.
I work on a variety of characters, a variety of origins, and I really don't have the time to go web-hunting for some COH site that has every known story arc and figuring out how to get them at the right level ranges.
Plus, I think a shift towards heavily influencing people to actively rely on story arcs is a disgusting scheme to make people play more hours and level less quickly (not using radio's, for example).
So, please don't do this.
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I am listening to your ideas, but a Flashback system is simply not something we can implement in a timeframe you would all be happy with.
Instead we are looking into other options to get you the Pool B choice so level 50s don't feel gimped.
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Dataminins shouldn't be that hard. Those who've finished the arcs have the souvenirs, the data is all right there. Can't you award us based on that, retroactively?
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I agree. It'll only take, what, six months to write the flashback system if they devote all their resources to it? I'm sure everyone is willing to wait until the fall for Inventions to go live.
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I am listening to your ideas, but a Flashback system is simply not something we can implement in a timeframe you would all be happy with.
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Here it is, they have heard and are working on it. Thanks Doc.
Please, everyone, quit asking for flashback. At least in regards to this. Even with flashback, you will still run out of story arcs. Some people are pretty close to out already. So, while you may want flashback for other reasons, it's not going to solve this problem.
I don't know, forcing people to do the story arcs might get some real teaming in Skyway, Steel Canyon, IP, Talos, Brickstown and Founders Falls again.
As great as Striga, Faultline and Croatoa are, a majority dont give the reward menu for completing their arcs (just the Agent in the 4th arc in Faultline). I hate the fact I've leveled many toons past many of the arcs, but I like rewarding people for using the content.
If you have to concede letting the entire team getting a taste then I'm for that too.
Being in a holding pattern to not miss arcs until Issue 9 so I dont miss contacts .... ouch lol
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Oh, but with ambiguity you can get frothing mad about what ever you feel like reading into or mis-interpreting from the statement. Like...
He said that 50s will just get the pool B choices!! That's unfair!! Why even bother doing arcs when you get just get PL'ed to 50 and get all of them!!!!!
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Inventions has been touted as something that shelved level 50's can partake in. Level 50's that have completed all their story arcs already. Please, how can both of those occur? Level 50's can not experience IO's if they are locked out of acheiving specific rewards because they happened to hit the level cap before I9.
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This is exactly my concern as well.
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Lighthouse, my own personal opinion is this:
If we can't go back and do our story arcs, and there's no way we can sway you from granting reciepes off them, then why can't we just award a reciepes to the whole team, when a story arc is completed? Sure this would cause a lot more reciepes to be accessed, but the chance would still be unlikely that you would get an ultra-rare drop out of it.
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I think we are both saying the same thing. We hear you and ze good Doctor understands your feedback. Positron is twiddling at the workbench now. Have faith! Thanks!
Lighthouse
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