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What will Issue 8 have?
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As far as Epic Archetypes? no one's sure yet. If anything, it will most likeley be the villain Warshades (or rather, Nictus.)
i know citadel's old name, but i remember the new villain group to start with a b as well. botbs is also based on something to do with oil a well if i'm not mistaken.
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as far as wings in i8, i would not be surprised if both the costume piece and the EAT were included, there would be too much of an uproar if it were otherwise.
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What, as opposed to the uproar of Enhancement Diversification or the global defense changes?
I think between the addition of the Nictus, the Veteran reward system (including Trenchcoats, apparantly), the first portion of the Legends system, Wings and god knows what else, I doubt there will be game-busting hew and cry over the lack of Avilians.
Certainly nothing to have the Devs quaking in their boots.
Do not assume that just because you would be unhappy that the rest of the player base would be just as unhappy. Alot of them could give a crap about Avilians, or even Epic ATs in general.
All very true, HallowKing.
The fact remains, however, that Avilans (no second i!) have simply been in the works for too long, been confirmed as 'on the way' too many times, and have an utter lack of real evidence of being cancelled, to not be coming soon.
Not that I don't believe there is a certain possibility that they've been scrapped, but until a red name themself posts it somewhere, there's no way I'll believe it.
I would hope for 5th tier pool powers as well, including (but not limited to) Teleport TO Friend
Wavicle, Energy/Energy Blaster, dinged 50 in Issue 4, summer of 2005.
@Wavicle, mostly on the Justice server.
i'd much rather have more EATs than more power pools. it would be hard to work any more powers into my characters if new pools were introduced. just a question though, i'm not fimiliar with the legends system, when was it proposed and what does it entail?
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i'd much rather have more EATs than more power pools. it would be hard to work any more powers into my characters if new pools were introduced. just a question though, i'm not fimiliar with the legends system, when was it proposed and what does it entail?
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I'm not exactly sure how long, but I know it's been around for awhile and pre-dates I5/I4. IIRC, it's what Positron was talking about in the interview when he said you can make your character "better and better.." That's basically the jist of it.
are you sure it's not the invention system?
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are you sure it's not the invention system?
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Positive. "Invention" system was scrapped. Legends is more then confirmed, it's coming in Sept.
I think you're thinking about the Skills system which, according to Statesman, has been "shelved."
On a completely different subject, I can't believe how active Bridger is, he's very.. talkative and involved, which is always appreciated. Anyway, he said this in the UK boards about the "WS for villains" subject:
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I'll see if I can get permission from Cryptic to reveal a little more about the Kheldians - at least in summary form. I can't promise this will be before Issue #7 goes live, but I will try.
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So.. stay tuned people.
so the unconfirmed bottom line: inventions, evil kheld, and legends for i8?
Inventions - unconfirmed for I8
Warshades/Nictus - unconfirmed for I8
Veterans Rewards - confirmed for I8
Legends (pt 1) - confirmed for I8
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no, the new threat is a new villain group. does anyone remember when the invention system was announced? well they described a new villain group, the bastion or batallion i think, which would be very resistant to normal damage powers but verry susceptible to crafted powers. mega-lame.
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Was this Pre-I3? I don't remember this. BTW, Bastion = Citadel.
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I vaguely remember that discussion. I believe Battalion was the name of the villain group.
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as far as wings in i8, i would not be surprised if both the costume piece and the EAT were included, there would be too much of an uproar if it were otherwise.
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According to interviewees who talked to Positron, when asked which EAT is gonna come out next, he said it was neither the Avilans or the BotBS.
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And knowing this it seems Coralax is a fairly safe assumption for the next Epic AT after CoV Nictus.
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nictus in i8, not surprising at all, i've thought about it for a while myself and while it would be cool to have i'd much rather see coralax or avians. i might want to see bloods if i knew more about them. and villainous khelds already exist in the pb and shade arcs. they con at boss level and can be seen as 'white dwarves' and 'bright novas'. check them out, fun stuff to brawl against. i would not be surprised if the nictus was a warshade who was not confined by moral boundries and could use it's soul extraction abilities on living enemies instead of dead ones. the evil khelds, or the 'warbringers'? if they exist, i can't see being any different than standard peacebringers and would make a lame EAT in my oppinion.
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The BotBS interests me because of the whole egyptian theme. Based on Egyptian mythology, there are tons of possibilities, not to mention fantastical or mythological things I want to see alive in CoX. Shapeshifting, as far as I'm concerned, is most likely gonna involve totem animals or god-like animals.
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Im really looking forward to them as well. The whole mythology angle is a neat one too. Im not up on the whole CoH historical canon, but it seems to me that if there exists a Well of the Furies that can give Statesman and Recluse the re-incarnated powers of the ancient Greek Gods, then it is at least reasonable to think that there might exist a similar place, tapping into a similar or the same source of magic as the Well of Furies, that could give someone the re-incarnated powers of the ancient Egyptian Gods.
Either way, Im almost more interested in knowing what the story is the Devs are cooking up behind the scenes than in actually playing them or fighting them in the game.
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as far as wings in i8, i would not be surprised if both the costume piece and the EAT were included, there would be too much of an uproar if it were otherwise.
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And knowing this it seems Coralax is a fairly safe assumption for the next Epic AT after CoV Nictus.
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Unfortunately, Positron's latest quote just might counter that speculation, stating that the expansion box would also further expand the "making your lvl 50 better" or rather "legends" system. With that said, it just might be the Incarnates since everything fits so evenly. BUT I wouldn't jump to conclusions just yet. There's some hope for the Coralax. I really wish it will be but I'm not getting my hopes up.
I don't have the Redname quote, but I thought Incarnates were going to be a new EAT that, from what we have gathered, will most likely be the new EAT with the expansion box.
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I don't have the Redname quote, but I thought Incarnates were going to be a new EAT that, from what we have gathered, will most likely be the new EAT with the expansion box.
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Yeah, just like what I said in the previous post about Positron saying the expansion box will further the "making your lvl 50 better and better..", since the Incarnate concept is basically (from what we know of) an upgrade-reincarnation.
So yes, it's very likely that it will be the Incarnates for the expansion box.
I love this thread, it's filled with such smartness and insight 
i would like to say thank you but i'm the one asking the stupid questions
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I don't have the Redname quote, but I thought Incarnates were going to be a new EAT that, from what we have gathered, will most likely be the new EAT with the expansion box.
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Yeah, just like what I said in the previous post about Positron saying the expansion box will further the "making your lvl 50 better and better..", since the Incarnate concept is basically (from what we know of) an upgrade-reincarnation.
So yes, it's very likely that it will be the Incarnates for the expansion box.
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Ok. I was under the impression the Incarnate would be an entirely new EAT, rather than simply an expansion of a 50. (I personally liked the idea of making it an epic Origin that someone, sorry I forget who, posted).
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I don't have the Redname quote, but I thought Incarnates were going to be a new EAT that, from what we have gathered, will most likely be the new EAT with the expansion box.
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Yeah, just like what I said in the previous post about Positron saying the expansion box will further the "making your lvl 50 better and better..", since the Incarnate concept is basically (from what we know of) an upgrade-reincarnation.
So yes, it's very likely that it will be the Incarnates for the expansion box.
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Ok. I was under the impression the Incarnate would be an entirely new EAT, rather than simply an expansion of a 50. (I personally liked the idea of making it an epic Origin that someone, sorry I forget who, posted).
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No, no, don't get me wrong. We still don't know what the Incarnates are (wether or not they will be a new EAT or whatever.) I'm just trying to assosciate it with the system Positron was talking about, afterall, the concept is there. Who knows, maybe we will see them as a seperate EAT. I, for one, really hope they are, that way, we wouldn't know what to expect, and I really want to be surprised to see what the devs have learned since the Kheldians.
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I, for one, really hope they are (a seperate EAT), that way, we wouldn't know what to expect, and I really want to be surprised to see what the devs have learned since the Kheldians.
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No kidding. We haven't seen a new EAT SINCE the Khelds. Be kinda neat to see what direction they take them in.
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I, for one, really hope they are (a seperate EAT), that way, we wouldn't know what to expect, and I really want to be surprised to see what the devs have learned since the Kheldians.
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No kidding. We haven't seen a new EAT SINCE the Khelds. Be kinda neat to see what direction they take them in.
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The thing that gets me excited is that, look at the Thugs MM and the Elec Melee sets. IMO, some of the attacks in there, while not the most 'uber', are unique and creative. I can't wait to see what they're going to do with the new EATs - story-wise AND power-wise.
I don't believe the Legends system has anything to do with incarnates.
It was mentioned back when Hammi'os were dropped down to SO values that NEW enhancements that provided 50% and possibly higher values were on their way.
My guess is that they will be available as the rewards for end game content. If they only trail off in effectiveness like enhancements should, you should be able get values up to 144% instead of the current 95%. This will allow you to make your charecters more powerfull, free up slots for different enhancement types, etc... all WITHOUT raising the level cap, which is something the DEVs dread having to do.
Also, my only silly rant here.
Nictus are evil energy beings.
Warshades are Nictus merged with willing human hosts.
Warshades were added as heroes quite simply because there was no COV at the time. While warshades trying to redeem themselves makes a cool hero concept there is absolutely NO reason that a Warshade who merged with an Evil human would not be a villain.
Simply put, Warshades make a no brainer villain AT.
They are still Warshades to boot, no reason to cook up some new Nictus name for them.
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no, the new threat is a new villain group. does anyone remember when the invention system was announced? well they described a new villain group, the bastion or batallion i think, which would be very resistant to normal damage powers but verry susceptible to crafted powers. mega-lame.
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Was this Pre-I3? I don't remember this. BTW, Bastion = Citadel.
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as far as wings in i8, i would not be surprised if both the costume piece and the EAT were included, there would be too much of an uproar if it were otherwise.
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According to interviewees who talked to Positron, when asked which EAT is gonna come out next, he said it was neither the Avilans or the BotBS.
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nictus in i8, not surprising at all, i've thought about it for a while myself and while it would be cool to have i'd much rather see coralax or avians. i might want to see bloods if i knew more about them. and villainous khelds already exist in the pb and shade arcs. they con at boss level and can be seen as 'white dwarves' and 'bright novas'. check them out, fun stuff to brawl against. i would not be surprised if the nictus was a warshade who was not confined by moral boundries and could use it's soul extraction abilities on living enemies instead of dead ones. the evil khelds, or the 'warbringers'? if they exist, i can't see being any different than standard peacebringers and would make a lame EAT in my oppinion.
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The BotBS interests me because of the whole egyptian theme. Based on Egyptian mythology, there are tons of possibilities, not to mention fantastical or mythological things I want to see alive in CoX. Shapeshifting, as far as I'm concerned, is most likely gonna involve totem animals or god-like animals.
But I agree with the Nictus idea. While it's only fair, most people are over the Kheldian story arc - unless ofcourse, the Nictus bring something totally new to the Kheldian story. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to finally play a Kheld, but I'd rather play something else.