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Wings, Trenchcoats - Both are coming very soon. Trenchcoats will be unlocked by the long term subscriber program. Wings are costume options and will not be specific to any certain AT.
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It seems as if the devs have taken it in consideration. Well, let's hope the game doesn't turn into City of Wings, which was my fear before, but I guess we'll see how this turns out.
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For Trenchcoats - Yay! I think that's excellent, it will allow anyone to, potentially, get trenchcoat, without allowing EVERYONE to - no City of Neo-Wannabes.
About the Wings - I dunno how I feel about that. When I first heard they were gonna be an EAT, I was somewhat dissapointed by this, thinking 'But I want to potentially be able to blast, OR fly in and melee!' but I've since realized that that could EASILY be more then possible.
Furthermore, making wings available to any AT, reguardless of the Avilan EAT, will, doubtless, result in, as you said, City of Wings. Don't get me wrong, I think wings are cool, and will assuredly make at least 1 character with wings. In fact, my demonicly possessed Necro/Dark MM, Asto Vidatu would love a set of wings on one of his costumes (each costume is a further perversion of his human body down the road of possession. His final costume would look AWESOME with wings)
Reguardless, I'm hoping they make wings, as a costume option, unlocked for all your characters, by unlocking the Avilan EAT however that will be done, that way, there will, hopefully, at least, not be so many of them. I'm also hoping that Avilans will be unlocked by the new Veteran Rewards system, and only after you've played for quite awhile - perhaps 2 years. Granted, that will make me ineligible for quite awhile, having joined the community JUST before last years anniversary, but still, I don't want to see hordes of people running around with wings. We're supposed to be Super-Heros/Villains here, not Angels/Demons. Thats a different game...
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wait, what if like trench coats, some of the eATs are unlocked by total subscription time?
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Sounds good to me. Makes it easily possible for anyone to get them, without them being everywhere.
In fact, though it may take awhile for it to happen, I can guarentee you, that at LEAST one EAT for each faction will be unlocked in this way.
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Yeah, and thanks for agreeing with me about the whole City of Wings thing, to me, the main winged people that sticks in my head that are in the comics are Angel, Hawkman and Hawkgirl, there are some others, but there are only a few of them.
As for the Veteran's Award to unlock them, while I agree that it should make a decent reason to cull the winged population, I think for an EAT to be a Veteran's Award would go against and probably beyond the lvl 50 requirement that they aren't going to use anymore. So IMO, the lvl 50 requirement and the time-spent requirement are almost on the same page, but hey, anything can happend despite wether or not we like it.
*cough*wingsascostumeparts*cough*
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I PM'ed Posi about avilans or costume piece. He only said and i quote "costume piece". And i realy wanted the avilans. Threre were the only new EAT i was looking forward too. 
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The Avilans have been in works for awhile now. You shouldn't assume that the Avilans aren't coming 
I would suggest not being sad about it until it's confirmed that they aren't releasing the Avilans anymore, and just like what Janus said:
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There is no way I'll believe this unless a red-name personally posts it in the forums somewhere. It's already far too 'confirmed' as a new EAT.
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Choose a god/goddess/higher being to be reincarnated with or be personfied with, or something like that. But that's just pure speculation.
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Ok, now I know I'm reaching waaay back in text here, but maybe a thought for incarnates. I like the idea of reincarnation, but I think we're missing the obvious here for endgame content. Reincarnate. Think about it, hit level 50, play around for X amount of time, then go through a special tf, in which you get too choose a patron diety, and are then reincarnated as a level 1 incarnate.
If this has already been speculated I apoligize, i just had to say it, and I had only gotten that far in reading as of yet.
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Yeah, it's been discussed upon. The majority had very negative things to say, but to sum it up, while it's a good idea for some, it would really be unfair to ask us to get rid of our 50 and start it all over again. That, and according to plot guidlines, I don't think we can be as powerful as States and LR. That's just my opinion though, feel free to disagree
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This way, while they might be vastly powerful, it would involve a huge undertaking, and to be a X Incarnate, like a Scrapper Incarnate, you would be reincarnated from whatever the X is, and have access to regaining these powers, with some fun new stuff.
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The balance of power (especially in the PvP zones) will be shifted, so I don't think that will turn out too well, heh. Again, just my opinion.
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Choose a god/goddess/higher being to be reincarnated with or be personfied with, or something like that. But that's just pure speculation.
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Ok, now I know I'm reaching waaay back in text here, but maybe a thought for incarnates. I like the idea of reincarnation, but I think we're missing the obvious here for endgame content. Reincarnate. Think about it, hit level 50, play around for X amount of time, then go through a special tf, in which you get too choose a patron diety, and are then reincarnated as a level 1 incarnate.
If this has already been speculated I apoligize, i just had to say it, and I had only gotten that far in reading as of yet.
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Yeah, it's been discussed upon. The majority had very negative things to say, but to sum it up, while it's a good idea for some, it would really be unfair to ask us to get rid of our 50 and start it all over again. That, and according to plot guidlines, I don't think we can be as powerful as States and LR. That's just my opinion though, feel free to disagree
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This way, while they might be vastly powerful, it would involve a huge undertaking, and to be a X Incarnate, like a Scrapper Incarnate, you would be reincarnated from whatever the X is, and have access to regaining these powers, with some fun new stuff.
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The balance of power (especially in the PvP zones) will be shifted, so I don't think that will turn out too well, heh. Again, just my opinion.
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I agree, but it would be a way to make sure there aren't many of them, so there aren't a huge number of them around, and they would never be as powerful as LR or States, but could still be more powerful then a normal AT character.
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Yeah, it's been discussed upon. The majority had very negative things to say, but to sum it up, while it's a good idea for some, it would really be unfair to ask us to get rid of our 50 and start it all over again.
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I also understand the desire to not give up a 50, as I myself have only one, and he took me a year or more to get up there. Mainly because I am a die-hard alt-o-holic.
I also would like to note that when you info someone, the way their powers are shown in the info is in the order they are recieved.
I.E.
Claws: Strike, Swipe, Focus, Eviscerate, Shockwave, Slash
Regen: Fast Healing, Quick Recovery, Reconstruction, Integrate, Revive, Dull Pain
In the order they were gotten, not in the order they were available. But either way, Statesman and the other freedom phalanxe's powers are listed in reverse, with the last available power first on the info, and then going backwards. I'm not sure if this is significant, but it is interesting.
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I agree, but it would be a way to make sure there aren't many of them, so there aren't a huge number of them around, and they would never be as powerful as LR or States, but could still be more powerful then a normal AT character.
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I also understand the desire to not give up a 50, as I myself have only one, and he took me a year or more to get up there. Mainly because I am a die-hard alt-o-holic.
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While this is a good idea, in a long run, the balance of power is still going to shift, but I like the idea. It makes being one.. more unique. The balance is just my only concern. That, and the question, "what if the Incarnates suck for you?" - as the Kheldian as my example, not everyone really liked it, and as far as we know, EATs aren't meant to be more powerful, but just to be.. epic. It would really be devastating to restart your lvl 50 character to find out you really hate being an Incarnate, lol. But your guess is as good as mine
just to clarify for myself:
heroes:
peacebringers
warshades
(the colalax slaves)
heroic avians
incarnates
villains:
blood of the black stream
colalax
villainous avians
incarnates
it seems that villains are missing one to make it even. its this intentional or is another planned? ex: nictus?
I think the avilins....avil...av..., the bird people, will be an Epic At with wings as a feature like the squids quantum flight- BUT not to tick of the paying majority they will make the wings available to everyone- NOT just the EAT.
Thanx for the info!
"I'm not scared of anyone or anything Angie. Isn't that the way life should be?"
Jack Hawksmoor, The Authority.
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just to clarify for myself:
heroes:
peacebringers
warshades
(the colalax slaves)
heroic avians
incarnates
villains:
blood of the black stream
colalax
villainous avians
incarnates
it seems that villains are missing one to make it even. its this intentional or is another planned? ex: nictus?
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Well, there hasn't been anything announced yet regaurding who is gonna go where, but IMO, if the list were to turn out that way, I don't think it's a matter of balance, because to me, EATs give you a chance to be part of their story, so the only disadvantage is that the villains cannot take part in the Kheldians' story, which is a concern to some, but according to how they're written, they can only be accessible to heroes. Bringing over the Nictus however, is a completely seperate thing that may be considered one day, but nothing has been announced so far. IMO, as far as the Kheldian's story goes, I think it's over, unless the devs choose to expand it anyway - which isn't impossible.
But anyway, point being: to me, EATs are just.. stories that you can take part in, wether or not the heroes have more shouldn't be a concern.. at least I don't think it is.. heh. But that's just me ofcourse.
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I think the avilins....avil...av..., the bird people, will be an Epic At with wings as a feature like the squids quantum flight- BUT not to tick of the paying majority they will make the wings available to everyone- NOT just the EAT.
Thanx for the info!
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I have no problem believing that. I have no problem thinking that the Avilans will have much more bonuses when it comes to flying compared to.. normal.. flying. Eventhough I think wings as costume options is a bad idea, I think, like you said, that it should make the others who aren't Avilans content with just wings.
But I have a thought, when Posi said wings for costume options, couldn't he have been being cryptic about it and really mean that, sure, it may be a costume option, but only to Avilans..?
Though, on the contrary, he did say that the Avilans nor the BotBS are going to be the next released EAT, so nevermind I guess.
Cool. I enjoyed reading it.
I hope the new EATs come sooner rather than later.
Malakim
-Playing since COH beta and still love the game!
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Cool. I enjoyed reading it.
I hope the new EATs come sooner rather than later.
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I'm glad you enjoyed it. 
As far as early release, let's just hope and cross our fingers for I8, and best chances (according to official feedback) are the Coralax might be released first.
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so coralax and their slaves are next?
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Though, on the contrary, he did say that the Avilans nor the BotBS are going to be the next released EAT, so nevermind I guess.
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so coralax and their slaves are next?
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I'm not gonna say yes or no, but all we know is that the Avilans and/or BotBS aren't next. It's most likely that it will be the Coralax (and possibly the Virtea - nothing's been confirmed if the heroes will get them) but I don't want to say yes for sure because nothing's been officially confirmed.
But it's highly possible it will be the Coralax.
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So, if there are any EATs, I hope we hear about them soon, and let's rejoice since September's right around the corner. And quite possibly, he also may have mentioned the Incarnate EAT which would be this:
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In the next update, Issue 8, we will have a new system that gives us the ability to make your level 50 characters better. That means weve abandoned the idea of raising the level cap to 60 for now and instead will give you the option to make your level 50s better, then better again and then even better. That process will last a lot longer than additional 10 levels, which just create a new problem: What to do after hitting level 60?
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The expansion will let heroes and villains team up against a common foe.
It can be run from any of the games and there will be no extra subscription fee. Its also build into the system of making better level 50 characters, however there is going to be content for all level ranges. There will also be a new power set for each of the existing archetypes including tanks and scrappers.
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OH MY GOD NO!!! WARSHADES FOR VILLAINS!
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So, you guys read it. It's official. No Coralax, Avilans, BotBS, or Incarnates in I8 or I9. Instead, Warshades (probably Nictus OR the same old darn thing) will be probably in I8.
In conclusion: I8 or I9, we'll probably get Warshades or Nictus, or whatever. For the next expansion (after I9), we'll be introduced to a new EAT. It hasn't been officially confirmed, BUT from what Positron says, it seems as if he's describing being an Incarnate - again, it SEEMS as if he is. As for me, I hope it's either the Avilans, Coralax, or BotBS.
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I'm sorry this disappoints you, but I'm REDICULOUSLY excited by this! Granted, not as exciting as either Coralax, BotBS, Incarnates, or Avilans, but still, very excited none-the-less. I KNEW they were going to add Nictus, in some form or another to the Villainous EATs, there's just too much plot to support it.
The only question remaining, based on that statement is...will villains ONLY be getting Warshades...or some Nictus equivalent to Peacebringers, also...? Obviously not Peacebringers per se, but some sort of second Kheldian EAT? I mean...if Nictus can reform, and become Warshades, why can't Peacebringers fall and become....I dunno!
Exciting times for CoX right now, I say!
Haha, well it's not that bad. It's disappointing because I guess I'm over the whole Kheldian thing, but I've always wanted to play one. Now I'm gonna have the chance so that's good I guess. I sent a PM to Posi (which he probably won't respond to) and asked if there will be any major changes. It would be nice to see new forms for the Nictus, or at least, the rogue Khelds.
IIRC, Kheldians = Peacebringers, Rogue Peacebringers = Nictus, Rogue Nictus = Warshades. I'm not sure where I'm going with that but I think that's how it goes, lol. Let me re-read the Kheldian story arcs to see what we might get.
Because fallen Peacebringers become Nictus, generally.
Dawncaller - The Circle of Dawn
Too many blasted alts to list, but all on Virtue.
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Haha, well it's not that bad. It's disappointing because I guess I'm over the whole Kheldian thing, but I've always wanted to play one. Now I'm gonna have the chance so that's good I guess. I sent a PM to Posi (which he probably won't respond to) and asked if there will be any major changes. It would be nice to see new forms for the Nictus, or at least, the rogue Khelds.
IIRC, Kheldians = Peacebringers, Rogue Peacebringers = Nictus, Rogue Nictus = Warshades. I'm not sure where I'm going with that but I think that's how it goes, lol. Let me re-read the Kheldian story arcs to see what we might get.
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Ok, well, I've never *played* a Kheldian, so all my knowledge about their stories comes from the forums, and the plot synopsis I read on the 'net. But from what I've gotten, Nictus as *not* exactly Rogue Peacebringers. They're more like to seperate sub-species of the same main race. I'm sure if you traced their geneology back far enough, you'd find a common root, but, if nothing else, Nictus have manipulated themselves through science, and are seperate, but related entities.
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So effectively...Warshades are...Peacebringers? No. Warshades are, from what we can tell so far, Rouge Nictus. If you want to think of Nictus as rogue Peacbringers, in the sense that they're evil Kheldians, then I suppose there's some truth to that.
A greater truth, to use metaphorical example however, would be if a group of Humans started genetically enhancing themselves, and decided to wipe out regular humanity. Would you consider one of them, who went rogue to help out regular humans, a 'regular human' or would they just be an 'enhanced human', working for the normals?
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Haha, well it's not that bad. It's disappointing because I guess I'm over the whole Kheldian thing, but I've always wanted to play one. Now I'm gonna have the chance so that's good I guess. I sent a PM to Posi (which he probably won't respond to) and asked if there will be any major changes. It would be nice to see new forms for the Nictus, or at least, the rogue Khelds.
IIRC, Kheldians = Peacebringers, Rogue Peacebringers = Nictus, Rogue Nictus = Warshades. I'm not sure where I'm going with that but I think that's how it goes, lol. Let me re-read the Kheldian story arcs to see what we might get.
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Ok, well, I've never *played* a Kheldian, so all my knowledge about their stories comes from the forums, and the plot synopsis I read on the 'net. But from what I've gotten, Nictus as *not* exactly Rogue Peacebringers. They're more like to seperate sub-species of the same main race. I'm sure if you traced their geneology back far enough, you'd find a common root, but, if nothing else, Nictus have manipulated themselves through science, and are seperate, but related entities.
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So effectively...Warshades are...Peacebringers? No. Warshades are, from what we can tell so far, Rouge Nictus. If you want to think of Nictus as rogue Peacbringers, in the sense that they're evil Kheldians, then I suppose there's some truth to that.
A greater truth, to use metaphorical example however, would be if a group of Humans started genetically enhancing themselves, and decided to wipe out regular humanity. Would you consider one of them, who went rogue to help out regular humans, a 'regular human' or would they just be an 'enhanced human', working for the normals?
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I would consider them rogue; but I was just using the term 'rogue peacebringer' loosely, it's easier to type than 'scientifically enhanced kheldians', lol, and yes I did, overall, meant 'evil khelds.' For better clarification, here's what I remember:
[*]Peacebringers are the (good) Kheldians, hence the Natural origin.
[*]Nictus are the scientifically enhanced Kheldians, turned evil.
[*]Warshades are Nictus gone good, hence the Science origin.
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I would consider them rogue; but I was just using the term 'rogue peacebringer' loosely, it's easier to type than 'scientifically enhanced kheldians', lol, and yes I did, overall, meant 'evil khelds.' For better clarification, here's what I remember:
[*]Peacebringers are the (good) Kheldians, hence the Natural origin.
[*]Nictus are the scientifically enhanced Kheldians, turned evil.
[*]Warshades are Nictus gone good, hence the Science origin.
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That's as I remember, also. Guess we're definitely on the same page, then. Alls I'm sayin' though, is that, as long as we know Kheldians will be opened up for villains, and Heroes get Redeemed Nictus, why can't we get some fallen Peacebringers, eh? Eh?
Wouldn't a fallen PB not make sense? I mean, they're peaceful people, if they fall, they become a third party.. so I don't think that will work out. Basically it's going to be the PBs vs the fallen PBs, while both of them are vs Nictus. If the devs already decided they're only gonna make one EAT to counter the PBs and WS, it has to be either the fallen PBs or the Nictus. In this case, it's probably the Nictus.
In other words, fallen PBs would extend the Kheldian story because they'll become a third party. It would extend it, as in taking the story in a different direction, I'm not sure if that's what the devs are planning to do though.
But hey you never know.
WINGS IN I8 FTW!!!!!!!!!!!positron said so when he was in atlas park on my server. My friend told me
This way, while they might be vastly powerful, it would involve a huge undertaking, and to be a X Incarnate, like a Scrapper Incarnate, you would be reincarnated from whatever the X is, and have access to regaining these powers, with some fun new stuff.