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Cuppa's been trying, but she has yet to be able to convince the devs to throw us a bone.
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IF we were to ever add a way to get Isolator post-Tutorial, it would most likely be incredibly hard to get. Annoyingly hard. Irritatingly hard. There-would-be-a-zillion-people-asking-to-make-it-easier hard.
But IF we were to add it, it would be available nonetheless.
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They already have a "There-would-be-a-zillion-people-asking-to-make-it-easier hard" way to get the Isolator badge. Delete your character and start over.
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I have a idea for a REAL hard mission, you get this contact and he sends you to outbreak as a level 1. After you get the badge you have to level all the way to 50 again, but all your contacts and missions you used up the first go around are still used up so most of the time you have to A: group up and do other peoples missions or B: street grind. Would you be willing to do that for the badge?
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A couple pages ago I suggested this:
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So the way a Hero can get Isolator after the fact will be to reach level 50, do the go bad TF... get thrown to the zig, break out as a level 1 villain, work his way up to level 50, do the reformed task force, be granted level 1 security clearance and be sent to outbreak.
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Sorry I did ot see your post but the biggest problem with your idea is that it would require people to have CoH ad CoV, my idea does not. Not everyone who plays CoH and wants the badge has CoV.
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Cuppa's been trying, but she has yet to be able to convince the devs to throw us a bone.
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IF we were to ever add a way to get Isolator post-Tutorial, it would most likely be incredibly hard to get. Annoyingly hard. Irritatingly hard. There-would-be-a-zillion-people-asking-to-make-it-easier hard.
But IF we were to add it, it would be available nonetheless.
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What can I say?
BRING IT, Tin-skin!
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I'll never get Celebrant because I wasnt around, & you'll never get Isolator because you weren't around. plain & simple!!!
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There is a flaw in your logic. You can't get the badge because you weren't playing the game. We can't get the badge because we got the game too early.
They're just Badges... Who cares if your missing the Isolator badge... you dont get anything for collecting all the badges. If anything, badges are simply there to show your accomplishments. Badges are simply a novelty. What are we getting instead of badges?.... dev's are working on Issues, and powers, and maybe the NEXT badge that you will all be missing cause you're here crying about the last one. Move On! The game doesn't revolve around badges. 
Even IF you had all the badges... people wouldn't care for more than ... 1 second.. if that.
like i said before i have no problem with you and your wanting of the badge but too just hand it out makes it apsolutly pointless too have even if 1 contaminated thug was at the end of every TF it wouldnt be the same badge it would have 2 be labeled differently and then they would have 2 let everyone get that badge 2 which in turn is still giving newer players a chance for 1 more badge right ??? but as i said in my last post wouldnt you rather have a badge saying that you were hear before badges started? i mean its kind of like a badge showing how much Experiance you actually have in this game which i would say is better then the isolator badge and all the new players cant beg for it because they havent been here long enough too have it
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I have a idea for a REAL hard mission, you get this contact and he sends you to outbreak as a level 1. After you get the badge you have to level all the way to 50 again, but all your contacts and missions you used up the first go around are still used up so most of the time you have to A: group up and do other peoples missions or B: street grind. Would you be willing to do that for the badge?
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So the way a Hero can get Isolator after the fact will be to reach level 50, do the go bad TF... get thrown to the zig, break out as a level 1 villain, work his way up to level 50, do the reformed task force, be granted level 1 security clearance and be sent to outbreak.
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Sorry I did ot see your post but the biggest problem with your idea is that it would require people to have CoH ad CoV, my idea does not. Not everyone who plays CoH and wants the badge has CoV.
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It's really no different than having to buy CoH Deluxe to get your V.I.P. badge.
It would not surprise me that this is the way they will do it. Rather than coding up yet another isolator TF or special contaminated spawn which would violate the "started your career off..." blurb in the badge, they just have to strip you of all your powers, inf, contacts, drop you to level 1 and throw you into the outbreak or breakout zones at the end of the go-bad/go-good TF, for the start of your next career. It really doesn't make sense to just turn level 50 heroes into level 50 villains... do you really think Recluse would really grant a security level 50 hero threat level 50 right off the bat?
Extra CoV sales for very little extra coding, and if you want to get back to being a level 50 hero... that's another 100 levels you have to play = more monthly subscription fees.
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Cuppa's been trying, but she has yet to be able to convince the devs to throw us a bone.
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IF we were to ever add a way to get Isolator post-Tutorial, it would most likely be incredibly hard to get. Annoyingly hard. Irritatingly hard. There-would-be-a-zillion-people-asking-to-make-it-easier hard.
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I was also thinking the same thing with the gladiator that is going to be available for those who have (or I should say will have) both Celebrant badges. I hate missing out on content, but it isn't fair if anyone just gets something. It should be a nice little gift for those who were there to get the badge the easy way, but an incredibly gruelling ordeal for everyone else to get it. I missed the first Celebrant badge because I didn't have a computer that clould play 3d when the game hit beta and was first released. I'd hate to think that because of this little bit of bad luck I've been excluded from some content in the game. However having the option to still get it, even if it meant a months worth of hunting something down, it would be worth it in the end. Unfortunately for me it is in the hands of you the developers and the choice is ultimately yours.
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Positron challenged:
IF we were to ever add a way to get Isolator post-Tutorial, it would most likely be incredibly hard to get. Annoyingly hard. Irritatingly hard. There-would-be-a-zillion-people-asking-to-make-it-easier hard.
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Bring it on Posi!! We're ready! I'm sure it won't be any harder than your Task Force being run by a team of level 10s! 
Check out this Isolator thread over in the Ideas and Suggestions forum:
An idea for Isolator!
Go PRO-ISOLATORS!!
Fusion Force
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IF we were to ever add a way to get Isolator post-Tutorial, it would most likely be incredibly hard to get. Annoyingly hard. Irritatingly hard. There-would-be-a-zillion-people-asking-to-make-it-easier hard.
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Illusionist "annoying and difficult" or
"DE Emanators badge when there are no DE emanators difficult"
Pos, just datamine it and give it to the beta people so they quit whining and then remove it from the game altogether.
Simple solution.
Wow what did I start!
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Pos, just datamine it and give it to the beta people so they quit whining and then remove it from the game altogether.
Simple solution.
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No it isn't, unless you are meaning to give it to every character who was on before badges came out. (that's the simple solution)
If you are datamining for all those who took out 100 Outcasts before badges came out, you'd come up with a tiny handful, if any. Nobody knew that the badge was going to come out, or what you had to do for it, so (probably) nobody tried to take out 100+.
I don't know.
I just made a toon, and now he's almost level 10.
Without Isolator.
BTDT
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I care if I am missing the badge. That's enough for me.
Any badge does count toward the total number of badges badge.
Certain badges (not Isolator, yet) count toward Accolades. They are badges and they also (generally) grant you an additional attack, buff or stat boost.
Again I say to the Developers... Does this not show you that we want this? Are we not your customers? MMorgs Die when people stop playing. Let the lvl 50's go back to lvl 1 and do it all over! That would keep the bored on for more months and thats more monthly fees for you. We would get the one badge we want and really... all 50 lvls over again? Isn't that absurb enough? Also didn't those that missed those previous badges aquire one of them this winter? For defeating the Winter Minions. Yep Cold warrior came back and I've heard rumors about Halloween this year. So in the end the only badges you CANNOT collect again will be isolator and Celebrant. Celebrant is for the people who were here then, but why not give us isolator? Is this not harmless? All of you are right it is a useless badge, but how can you "collect Badges" when there is NO possible way of collecting them all? In that respect only then does it lose its purpose. At lvl 50 please give us the choice... to go back and do it all over again. To full back in love with our 50's!
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I love badges! I want to get as many as possible. I was totally bummed when all my toons pre badges could not get some of them.
While were crossing out fingers for the devs to do something about this.....
Faultline Trial anyone!!!!!
I am up for a challenge to always earn the badges! Thats the way it should be.
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ok, to all you players who made toons before this badge was availaible. I say this oh snap you missed out on a badge... TOUGH!!
I missed out on 8 badges that the Devs will NEVER, I repeat NEVER allow new toons to attain, just because were made after the event, so quit you whining 
I'll never get Celebrant because I wasnt around, & you'll never get Isolator because you weren't around. plain & simple!!!
So my new toon has ONE badge that your old toon doesnt, so what, your old toon has 8 badges that I'll NEVER be able to get!
is this 'fair' to me, no.
is the dev's giving old toons the ability to acquire the one badge I have that they cant, without me being able to also acquire the badges they have that I dont - no
why is it all the old badgers cant stand the idea of 1 little timy badge they'll never get, when I'm stuck with 8 that I'll never get?
Fair is fair & I think that if Isolator is opened up to older players, then I should be able to get Celebrant & the Winter Lord badge!
repeating my main point again!
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All I want to know is where or who said that heroes who missed the Halloween badges and or the Winter event badges will never get the chance to get them again?
I swear I never recall seeing or reading this from any post by a redname.
So that would leave it open for future events to happen again, I mean one of the Winter event badges already came back, I didn't see not one person complain about that. It seems everyone was happy.
So until I see a redname make a post telling us heroes we will never ever see these Special event badges again, then i suggest you stop whinning.
As for the annual event badges, these I can see you missing and never returning again, many of my toons, I forgot to log in, and thats my problem, I have never complained about missing them as it was my fault, if you were not a CoH hero when this event went live, then you too have no right to complain.
You were not even here for the event is not a reasonable excuse to say bring it back. Many of us heroes were here for the release of isolator and never had the fair chance to even get this badge.
So yes, we do deserve the right to earn it as everyone else did and does.
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IF we were to ever add a way to get Isolator post-Tutorial, it would most likely be incredibly hard to get. Annoyingly hard. Irritatingly hard. There-would-be-a-zillion-people-asking-to-make-it-easier hard.
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Well... consider how hard it is the way it is now: A player with a main toon created before Isolator and invested to the brim with close to 300 badges now has to wipe it, rebuild it from scratch and then reinvest everything they did before (+ extra for hunting those infecteds) to get those 300 badges back, all just to add Isolator. Not to mention all of the event badges that currently can't be recouped.
Badge hunting at the time Isolator went in was just kind of a bit of add-on fun to the game. But that's changed lately. Badge hunting is becoming more serious, because it requires so much investment now. (I still don't know how I'm going to manage 1 billion in healing from my force field defender, but I have to try.)
I suggest Posi that the devs' policies on badge designing evolve a bit to keep things balanced with how players are now treating badges. It's hard to believe that any cruel way you would implement a post-tutorial Isolator wouldn't end up being easier than what we have now.
(And aside, if a zillion people are asking for the same something, why aren't you listening? Surely there must be an opportunity to look for compromises towards their collective request?)
Isolator badge isn't an event badge. Its a badge you get when you make a new hero. I can understand not giving the event badges but to not give isolator to toons made prior to its availability is something i dont understand. The toons were there but no badge was available. Unlike the event badges, the only reason you wont get them is because you we not there.
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Trick or treating may reappear. We've all but been promised the Gamester will return to plague both Paragon City and the Rogue Isles. (Going WAY out on a limb here, probably as a special event with another badge or three for the collecting.) 
And Cold Warrior, as pointed out, has been available to the diligent for two years running.
I like looking at badges to see what characters have done what and been where. Changing the availabiliy of the special event badges lessens that awe because I won't know that the characters got the badge the way it originally appeared.
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IF we were to ever add a way to get Isolator post-Tutorial, it would most likely be incredibly hard to get. Annoyingly hard. Irritatingly hard. There-would-be-a-zillion-people-asking-to-make-it-easier hard.
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Ok sry on this one Posi. But that is just a stupid stance to take on a badge that means nothing, other than the enjoyment of people that PAY TO PLAY the game. I can understand making it a mission that might even be a little hard but to go to the extreme you are talking about well that just is showing true colors of the problem in how you (the devs) think.
And here is another point. If you had ANY information about getting the badge in outbreak, then i might be able to see this stance on the badge. But there is NONE! I just did a throw away toon and ran it through the outbreak taking my time to read everything carefully and i found NO information about the badge at all. Its not even in my badge area so i cant even look there to see that i can get it there.
Hell I got 4 toons to lvl 40 before i even knew that there was a badge in outbreak. Why is that?, well because there is NO info on it there.
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Here is an idea. What if there was a gladiator attached to the isolater badge? All of the people who have the isolater badge would immediately have the gladiator and be able to benefit from it. Positron designs a ultra hard way that anybody who wants the badge, and doesn't have it, can work for it.
This way for a time being, those with isolater benefit from having it and those without it can not complain because they have the ability to get it now and are missing out on another gladiator until they get it.
This coming from someone who also does not have the halloween or winter lord or celebrant or even present collecting badge. (Tried another game for a while and didn't get back in time) I would also like to have the opportunity to get these older badges but can't complain right now as my main still has plenty to do.