When pulling, DON'T TARGET THE BOSS! If we wanted to fight the entire spawn, we could have just gone to them.
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When pulling, DON'T TARGET THE BOSS! If we wanted to fight the entire spawn, we could have just gone to them.
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/signed
/sealed
/delivered
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Okay... here goes:
My pet peeves and such:
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Please don't run from group to group like an ADD kid hopped on sugar because you don't want to lose your fury. Also, don't ss down the hall to fight the next group. Some of us can't/won't keep up with you. Playing an MM, I am extremely squishy until my bots catch up to me - and they only sprint when I don't want them too. (P.S. I also play a brute and I know what it's like to have the fury bar peaking... I don't want to lose it either, but I don't want to lose my teammates more.)
If you have an invisibility power, please don't defog the whole map because you can. I like to know what we've cleared and what's left to clear.
By the same token, if the mission is to find x glowies and you scout and click each glowie, that could leave the rest of the team facing x ambushes at the same time.
Always remember, no matter how good you are, you most likely can't play every AT like a tank. If you choose to do so, I will stop trying to heal your sorry butt every time you over aggro.
If you are forming a team, please don't be offended if I see that your missions are on slider level 5 and I don't want to play that level - especially with an 8 member team and we're all level 10. (that is a MAJOR peeve of mine. I don't see how anyone in the teens or lower can be playing on invincible/relentless.
If you're the team leader, lead the team or designate someone else to lead. Communication is key, especially with new teammates.
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Oh.. as for blind invites, yeah.. they suck. I have been known to thank people for asking me even when I don't accept the invite. Politeness goes a long way. I don't even mind being asked while I am in a mission, as long as I am asked.
You don't hit smiling monsters - Sister Flame
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Just me:
Never invite someone who says "no blind invites",
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Kick anyone from the group whose first, kneejerk question is "what level are you guys." particularly if he's below the group's average level. he's assuming that the team leader is an idiot inviting people 5 or more levels higher than he is.
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1. It's been covered a lot already but let me explain for you since you've already gotten to 50 and lapped around to mid levels again. A lot of new players these days are camping in the hollows from as early as they can until level 19-20. Yes, that long. Mostly, they re-run Frostfire on Invincible at level 15 but occasionally they have a few more arc missions after that. (Honestly, I think FF should be a timed mission that you can fail and move on from. It's severely abused now. I would miss the snow ramp fun but I could live without). Anyway, without a chance to say, "Are you running a level 15 invincible frostfire mish?" "Yes!" "Not interested" life would not have been so good for several of my toons. Anyway, despite having a "Please send tell first, soloing" message up, I usually get blind invites that get repeated at me 5x. I'm serious here.
2. I think the kicking thing is a bad knee-jerk reaction. If someone's not in the team's zone and they're being asked to go somewhere they don't usually (higher or lower than they expect) they could just be checking to see if they need to SK, in fact, getting to the team might be an issue for them especially if they're pre-travel power. Maybe they just want to do the math and make sure they're going to get XP. (I was on a mission once and the lowest level guy was outside the range for getting xp, but somehow the team was composed in such a way no one could SK him.)
On to new stuff!!
Do not ...
...yell LFT without setting your search flag. I'm sure Atlas Park doesn't care you're looking but the people of your level over in Talos might be interested. Then again, maybe you shouldn't. ~_^
... ignore your team leader's instructions. If the team leader is actually laying down a plan - any real plan- go with it even if you don't like it. Or give a suggestion. Don't just ignore it and do your own thing. Especially don't tell the team to GO! when one person asked. Maybe the team leader is typing, "The defender sent me a tell, he's AFK" or maybe he's about to say "wait a few seconds my group hold/ recovery aura / Hasten / etc. is almost back up". Just announce you're ready and wait for the leader's signal.
Think the keywords are leadership and communication.
Some are legends because of their posts, others just post becoming legends in their own mind.
[i]I refuse to have Numina regen/recovery envy.
Do not tell me that you think my female toon is "hot." Go make your own if you dig that kind of thing.
Do not stalk me across zones telling me my toon is "hot."
Do not stalk me across zones telling me my toon is "hot" and asking me if I want to "cyber"
When a female toon is dead and waiting for a rez, do not attempt to make it look like your toon is doing molesting things to her.
--Yeah, these have all happened to me. Grrrr...
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Do not tell me that you think my female toon is "hot." Go make your own if you dig that kind of thing.
Do not stalk me across zones telling me my toon is "hot."
Do not stalk me across zones telling me my toon is "hot" and asking me if I want to "cyber"
When a female toon is dead and waiting for a rez, do not attempt to make it look like your toon is doing molesting things to her.
--Yeah, these have all happened to me. Grrrr...
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Thats just some dumb@ss little school boy that has no porn mags to jack from. Happen to me also.
It's down right retarded and show what kind of burntout inbreed people play this game.
And dont invite someone that is not looking for team when they are in a frikin mish!
l33tspeak is older than you realize. . .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B1FF
Jargon File has listed him [and leet/l33t] since, what, 1980-something?
Mini-guides: Force Field Defenders, Blasters, Market Self-Defense, Frankenslotting.
So you think you're a hero, huh.
@Boltcutter in game.
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l33tspeak is older than you realize. . .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B1FF
Jargon File has listed him [and leet/l33t] since, what, 1980-something?
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When my uncle was a boy in the 1930's, he teased a skunk and got whiffed. Does that make it any less stupid to tease a skunk today, just because skunk-teasing has been something stupid boys have done for a long time?
No. 'l33t' was stupid in the 80's, stupid in the 90's, and it's stupid now.
I used to fiddle with my back feet music for a black onyx. My entire room absorbed every echo. The music was . . . thud like. The music was . . . thud like. I usually played such things as rough-neck and thug. Opaque melodies that would bug most people. Music from the other side of the fence.
DO NOT...
...call my character by some hybrid/bizarro name like 'blaptroller' or 'warfender', or if you do don't get prissy when I call you a 'stupinhead' or 'idioramus'. I've used those terms (the first ones) in a tactical discussion before but not for my actual character. I'm a blaster. Shorter, easier to type. And true. So when I say stop it... stop.
DO NOT...
...[censored] about Brutes going Leeroy until you've played one at least until level 10. Seriously. Solo'ed 12 yellow hellions, in one big group in the street, at level 6 (6!) in about 45 seconds. Go ahead... try. (more on brutes below)
DO NOT...
...assume any of the following regardless of your past experience:
-SCRAPPERS are undisciplined yahoos who live to start fights only they can survive... There's a basis for that (mostly caffeinated regen'ners who don't have to wait at all) but most are quite good team players. See? I threw a generalisation in there quite easily and it doesn't apply to most players. I think. Lemme consider it while I run for more java.
-STALKERS are asocial teenagers whose sole source of satisfaction is ganking hardworking, virtuous players and then cackling maniacally. Okay, maybe some are.
-DEFENDERS (or corruptors) can heal, or even NEED to heal. I think by now most people have caught on that prevention is efficient and LIKE non-empaths. Or is it just me?
-BRUTES are nothing more than mindless... okay I admit this one is getting close to the mark. Thing is, rage is insane. INSANE. The damage output is so ridiculous, it's like when vets talk about guys going power-crazy with big guns (shooting machineguns until they run out of ammo or, more likely, die). This class not only ENCOURAGES Leeroy syndrome- it makes it FUN! So my proposal: go with it. Assume that, 30 seconds into the mission, the brute will go nuts and stop looking at what he's attacking, where he is or what his bodily needs are- so help him along! Buff him. Give him your c.a.b's. If he jump in front of Infernal screaming "Ah-HA!" just stand back, light up and watch him die. Or help, knowing you may faceplant with him. But enjoy the ride. Be pragmatic. Just watch him carefully and you'l do fine.
TANKS are useless lumps, 'specially ice tanks. Ahem. Not if the right person is behind the keyboard. They can save your whiny little [censored] like no other AT can, remember that.
MASTERMINDS are really the new and improved Tanks, and they really like to just grab and hold aggro so you can live your villainous fantasy of killing everything and looking sexy doing it. Really, it's all they want to do. Make YOU look good. No no, really.
PEACEBRINGERS/WARSHADES are all snotty kids on dad's machine or rich idiots who bought an account (or worse- the rich idiot's snotty kid!). When exactly did this happen? I've seen squids make pulls they couldnt handle, with voids and titans and whatnot- is there ANYONE on this thread who hasn't? Really? Ok, get off the forums and make your first character. Everyone else: you KNOW you've run headlong into crap you couldn't survive, so why blast these AT's? They seem really hard to play, so cut 'em some slack. The alternative: be considered an idiot-noob when you hit 50 and make one.
DOMINATORS are supposed to be like controllers, but they ain't as good! Granted, they share most of the same primaries but so what? Sure, I prefer the person next to me have /kinetics than /(assault stuff) for MY enjoyment, but for theirs they can play whatever they bloody well want. The dominate abilty is amazing so let them play- you wanted wartrollers(ahem), here they are; just as useful to a team as a controller but they don't buff.
CORRUPTORS have anything to do with defenders. They don't play at all like defenders unless you really want them to, in which case they're okay. BUT. One hint: I'm not playing a bleedin' defender, am I? Am I? Noooooooo- what am I playing? That's right. A corruptor. I corrupt, mainly by KILLING stuff. My primary is damage. Which brings me to:
DO NOT...
...give any importance to an AT's secondary powerset, or assume the player has any powers from it except for the first one. This is related to Corruptors being asked if they can heal, but also applies to MM's (whose minor healing skills are for the MINIONS) and controllers. There is one upside to people who assume too much from secondary sets: watching their first stalker get his face handed to him before they realise that, regen or no, he has the hitpoints of a controller.
DO NOT...
...snub an AT or build because of I5, bad press, minmaxing or whatnot. Tanks are useless? Really? Get the 'troller who said that in the arena with one, just for giggles. I want to watch. Ice/Axe tank? I'll bring the popcorn. <KA_CHUNK!>
The game evolves... yada yada... things change. Tanks got hit hard and they no longer have the staying power- doesn't make them useless by a longshot of course. I've seen useless tanks, and MM's etc... Y'know what made 'em useless? That's right- the person behind the keyboard, not the stats under the hood. A friend of mine used to make builds based on what her SG mates would recommend, then wonder why they didn't work. T'isn't the weapon, tis' the warrior. However...
DO NOT...
...make a 'concept character' whose concept is effectively useless (or almost) in the game, and then expect everyone to put up with it cheerfully. The "idea" might be cool, in which case I encourage you to go pick up Hero System rules and play the toon pen'n'paper. Great game, makes ANY idea you want. But don't get annoyed because someone would rather have a wingman with high DPS instead of a mastermind with no pets but a GREAT backstory. I'm sure the 'idea' is brilliant- have fun. But MY idea of fun is closer to skirting the ragged edge of danger, not pussyfooting around +0 or+1 mobs because someone wanted a laser rifle but no bots. Go play SWG. Or pen and paper. Or solo. Whatever.
DO NOT...
...bring up politics unless you're with RW friends or old-time SG mates. It can lead to bad feelings REAL fast.
**slight political content ahead**
Look, I'm Canadian. That means that, as far as I can tell, 51% of Americans are naive, deluded or scary as hell. BUT. I've traveled a lot. When I worked in Dallas last year I really liked everyone I met, from the folks I worked with to the folks at the hotel, the folks at the mall etc.. I don't want to get into public arguments with anyone- PM me and we'll go at it like rabid mynxes if you want, or try and start a politics thread. Heh, I dare you.
**okay, done**
DO NOT...
...mention religion either. Really, it's worse than politics. What makes it even more complicated is that a lot of characters take their name from biblical references, mostly angels and demons, or music bands (who often seem to pop holy books open and just use whatever looks 'cool') and they often DON'T EVEN KNOW IT. So. Don't ask. That's all. Being asked if I'm female is bad form, but someone schpieiling about the origin of 'Lilith' or 'Ezra' isn't bad form- it's freaky Ned-Flanderism(or pedantic at best). Don't try and change my wicked ways; I LIKE my wicked ways. All the good stuff in life is either immoral, illegal or fattening. Deal with it, or just come to Canada.
DO NOT...
...blame the devs for everything, or even anything in particular, until you sit in on a production meeting for this kind of thing. The quantity of factors that can go into an informed decision is staggering and the simple fact is that often, we can't make informed decisions. They're the ones with the datamined info, so they can know just how effective this or that power is, or if defiance really does suck. THEY KNOW. We don't. Not much room for intelligent debate, but at least your opinions count. Not happy with that arrangement? Go flame the Warcraft devs and see how long your access to their forums lasts.
DO NOT...
...whine about how an event is lame. Constructive criticism is great- but don't just rag on the valentine's day event because you want to solo. Wanting to solo valentine's day seems completely, utterly missing the point unless you're the kid I was talking about with the stalkers earlier- in which case, whack on brutha(or sista)!
I think the devs have fun with events- it's the time they can get wacky and try out stuff- any stuff, and that's okay. At the same time, if they spend too much time on an event someone is gonna [censored]; they're wasting valuable dev time, where's my trenchcoat blah blah (go play matrix online! sheesh!). They can't really win so I suggest people look at events as a sort of very cool test, not only of IF stuff works and HOW stuff works, but the actual impact it has on the playerbase- who's using it, how often, what for etc..
DO NOT...
...tell me about your WoW character. At all. That fact that's its the origin of your name/surname/SG name is, er, a fact. Not cool, cute or neat. Or even interesting. If anything it shows a certain lack of imagination- it's not even like playing an evil version of a hero you had, you're just rehashing old shite.
Anyhow.
I don't want to know what raids you were on- you're worse than listening to granmda ramble-at least her stories are about things she had DONE, not sat on her [censored] until it worked.
And if somehow you MUST- some bizarre circumstance involving a stuck elevator and partial paralysis, I mean MUST tell me about your toon... please, for the love of bob: not the equipment. The only thing more dreadful than a spazzed gamer droning on about how he owned this or that dragon is that gamer telling you about the stuff his character owns. More so when you don't play the game- then it's just verbal diarrhea pure and simple.
DO NOT...
...critique my costume unless you know me, or I ask. You can give your OPINION and that's fine. But it takes a special kind of [censored] to 'inform' me of whats 'missing' on my costume (often called an Art Director). More purple? Needs more purple? Really... tell you what... go stand downrange on a paintball field, I'll give you purple.
DO NOT...
...try and have 'demonstrations' in-game, in the hopes of rolling back I5(keep dreaming), or changing a powerset or whatever idiotic 'cause' you think you have. Heh. A 'cause'. In-credible. Just open the drapes and look outside. Aaaaw. It's too bad the world is absolutely friggin' perfect, 'cuz your revolutionary talents could have been SO useful in a 'real' situation... but having no better cause to vie for than how much prestige you get from missions is okay, 'cuz you're really making things happen. Long live Che!
DO NOT...
...think just because a few people liked a long-winded rant that, somehow, you should post another.
8)
Pax
Zapgrrl, 45 EleEle VIRTUE
Darkgrrl, 50 DrkDrk INFINITY
Nuqular Skwirl 37 IllKin VIRTUE
Bayushi Rei, 50 KatReg CHAMPION
Corvus Corone 32 NinDrk INFINITY
...and too many others to admit
"Don't dream it- be it"
Frank'n'Furter
DO NOT
Abuse caps because it looks like your yelling.
It is kinda funny though 
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More experienced players should not type /unhide
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Why not?
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If you like being barraged with blind invites, by all means. 
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If you're sidekicking somebody, do not Super Speed off and leave your sidekick to fight a mess of suddenly-purples.
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::raises hand and hangs head::
Guilty.
If things are going well, I tend to forget about them, until suddenly.....
Bad mentor! Bad! No biscuit!
An Example of Leetspeak from an Everquest cartoon
Leetspeek is real real old.
The Optimist says the glass is half full.
The Pessimist says the glass is half empty.
While they argue about it, the Opportunist comes along, drinks what's left, and removes all doubt. - Redwood
Alvays remember, schmot guy...any plan vere you lose you hat...is a BAD PLAN!
I really hate this one.
Don't assume that because the toon I'm playing is a low-level female, that I really, really want you to be my 'sugar-daddy' (IE, loads of inf/enhancement gifts) in return for being your little arm decoration.
Ick.
Anyone going to talk about what you SHOULD do in Cox?
Here's one:
Challange Hellions to duel YOU WON! 
S'always good.
Arc Salvo: Okay hold one sec guys, we can't just rush in blindly vs these Nemesis, they've got these ranged aoe's tha-
Teammate1(charging in): Shut up, Arc Salvo, you lame*$% Viewtiful Joe wannabe! What do you know?!
Teammate2(also charging): yeah, ST#& arc salvo u PWR RANGR U!
Arc Salvo: *sigh*
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Do not send an invite to anyone if you are not going to talk to them at all or select any missions. They sent me 2 blind invites, then I accepted the second invite and for 20 min. they did not say one word, select a mission or invite anyone else (even after repeated greetings and questions from me). They just stood in the same place on the map (in the street).
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Go,
Hunt,
kil Skuls
(sorry just had to say it)
Sorry, I may not have been clear.
Leetspeak is, indeed, extremely old. that just makes it worse, though. . . it's not even a NEW stupid. It's like a bad cover version of "My Generation."
Mini-guides: Force Field Defenders, Blasters, Market Self-Defense, Frankenslotting.
So you think you're a hero, huh.
@Boltcutter in game.
Do NOT team with a hero in a Pocket D mission, insist on detroying Behemoth-spewing portals rather than complete the mission because "it's good xp," and (when the Blaster dies and goes to the hospital) blame the hero that you died and got debt because SHE killed you, not the behemoths, because she left you there alone. Then, do NOT say that the only way to "keep things cool" is to give you some infamy to make up for your 281 debt (dear heaven, I was looking at over 1000, but who gives a rip?).
This is honestly my first experience with chidlish behavior in these games (believe it or not). I just said, "Heroes can't give villains infamy, and you're out of line."
/quit
/ignore
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(And as an aside, We aren't disconnected from the modern world, kiddo; Eminem, Marilyn Manson and the guys from all those pseudo-punk and scandinavian death metal bands aren't YOUR age, dimwit. They're MY age.)
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And while I'm here...
Please wait for my toon to finish logging in before sending invites. Just because I'm there for the moment, doesn't mean I plan on sticking around. Maybe I'm just passing through for the new holiday badges.
If you've just gone from level 30 to 38 in the span of 48 hours, don't go threatening to report people for PL'ing when they kick you from the sewer trial for being a complete [censored].
When the tank tells the scrapper to 'Hold on there, Leeroy.', don't respond that it's the tank's job to follow him into the mass of reds and oranges. When you quit the TF in a huff, and tell us we can't finish it without a contoller, the rest of us will proceed to do just that, and in record time, too.
Moggie's big forum-brother.
"I'm a tech. I tell it how it is. I'm incapable of the sunshine blowing necessary in their field." - BillZBubba
Do not assume you are carrying the team, it might feel like it, but you're not.
Do not get uppity and snotty. No one cares how many 50s you have or if you've played since beta. I've played since I1 and have a 50 and even I don't care about it.
Do not become so inflexible that you ruin your own game experience. Everybody has their own definition of "correct" tactics, but sometimes going with the flow of the team works out just fine and adds some excitement.
Do not turn down every blind invite. Are a lot of PUGs a waste of time? Sure, but a lot of them are very fun too. It doesn't take long to see which way a team is headed.
Do not put together a team and then say, "what do you guys want to do?"
Do not use the broadcast channel for your personal chat room. Man, that's annoying.
.: Shinmen : 50 katana/regen scrapper
.: Killing Jest : 50 km/wp scrapper
.: Dragon Raider : 50 fire/fire tank
.: Destructo Baby : 50 ice/cold corrupter
And dont play with your CoX to long...you'll wear it out
And maby go blind 
If Im in a mish DO NOT SEND A INVITE, that is just way to damn dumb.
How about this...... http://www.kontraband.com/index.asp
.....don't play if you're this dumb
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How about this...... http://www.kontraband.com/index.asp
.....don't play if you're this dumb
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How about, "that has nothing whatsoever to do with the topic?"
I used to fiddle with my back feet music for a black onyx. My entire room absorbed every echo. The music was . . . thud like. The music was . . . thud like. I usually played such things as rough-neck and thug. Opaque melodies that would bug most people. Music from the other side of the fence.
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Does anyone know what this means "leet" or "1337"?
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It describes a pseudo-language that substitutes random characters for proper English, and is used predominantly by drooling morons.
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Are they the new words for teenagers saying "haha I beat you!"?
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Ok this one comes from the old days when there were normal computer users and then there were the "Elite" users who were more adept at everything the computer offered (programming, hacking, pirating, couriers). Mainly the Elite had more knowledge than anyone else and knew how to use it. Then came the days of mom and pop internet and everyone and their left gonad considered themselves the ultimate computer god just because they learned how to edit a config.sys file for their first time. The idiots categorized themselves incorrectly as "Elite" but we called them "l33t's because they had one thing in common... they were too lazy to type or spell correctly. they shortened phrases and words and substituted numbers for letters. the actual "elite" folks did not commonly misspell or abbreviate because most were programmers and had learned hard lessons about syntax errors, prompting them to better their english, punctuation and spelling.
So in short, L33t's are NOT so 'leet.