How come we have no red servers yet???
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Posted on: 2005-11-01 20:08 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
But when they are complaining that the server ISN'T in the red and isn't laggy to the point of being unplayable, their message gets a bit lost in the ethers.
Yes, ED sucked to some of you. But it wasn't the end of the world like everyone proclaimed it to be.
Current Badge Hunter: Plot Device (Rad/Thermal/Dark) - 1,268 Xbox Live: Friggin Taser
King of Electricity, Lead Inmate running the Carl and Sons asylum, the "Man" behind the Establishment, Given Honor in Hat Form By Paragon City (Favorite Forum Poster 2006!), Master of Ceremonies of the Fair Use Law podcast
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Because Statesman is human?
Hell, I've been calling Nozy a douchehat since issue 3. I'm surprised it took him this long to join in on the fun.
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Mmmm marvelouse conclusion there 
I always suspected that contrary to some of his detractors he was also human.
Thats why when given the facts that
A) His origional post quoted Armsman then unfairly slammed him claimming he did something that he did not.
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B) he deletes the post and quickly puts up a different post, that people are surprised he would make.
I conclude that he did so to HIDE his origional post. To rewrite history so to speak. As far as I know that fits your theory that he is human.
If you have a diferent interpretation of these facts than by all means shoot. Unless there is something I don't know about Nozy that explains this.
Belldandy - Protector Server
Origional post by statesman
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And yet again, Jack pops up to take another popshot when I said that if after all this is said and done if the posted numbers showed CoH was groing beyond it's original 190,000 subscribers that it staeted with, I'd happily eat crow.
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Ahhh - here we go - the classic "let's twist words around."
Here's what I've said - our numbers are GAINING.
Doesn't mean "more than launch." It means gaining. You'll notice in SirBruce's excellent chart that we're trending UPWARDS. Does that mean we're going to gain 50,000 players from March to April? No. Does it mean we gain 1,000? Statistically more likely. Now once we get CoV into the mix - well, that's a whole other matter.
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Well its been at least 2 weeks since the last nerf...no wonder States is getting touchy.
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Because Statesman is human?
Hell, I've been calling Nozy a douchehat since issue 3. I'm surprised it took him this long to join in on the fun.
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Mmmm marvelouse conclusion there I always suspected that contrary to some of his detractors he was also human.
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And of course unlike my earlier post, I've never regretted having Taser on ignore. Not sure I could stand the smell of having my head that far up States' backside.
I do love it when people get to a'thinking that announcing the contents of their ignore list is how one goes about being "cool".
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I do love it when people get to a'thinking that announcing the contents of their ignore list is how one goes about being "cool".
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To be honest, I'm suprised Nozy can even read a good 98% of the forums at this point.
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Because Statesman is human?
Hell, I've been calling Nozy a douchehat since issue 3. I'm surprised it took him this long to join in on the fun.
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Mmmm marvelouse conclusion there I always suspected that contrary to some of his detractors he was also human.
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And of course unlike my earlier post, I've never regretted having Taser on ignore. Not sure I could stand the smell of having my head that far up States' backside.
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You know what's funny? I tried to report all the posts in this thread that are against the rules, but they were already reported. 
Including yours, 5 seconds after it was posted.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure. --- Thomas Jefferson
Formerly known as YFNDBA
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You know what's funny? I tried to report all the posts in this thread that are against the rules, but they were already reported.
Including yours, 5 seconds after it was posted.
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We're rebelling against the man! STICK IT TO THE SYSTEM!
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To be honest, I'm suprised Nozy can even read a good 98% of the forums at this point.
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LOL well, 2% is about the percent of it that is worth reading. 
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*sigh*
Let's see if I can lay this thing to rest.
At I5 - and now again with ED - some claim that the game is "dying" and that thousands of players are leaving. This isn't true. We're actually gaining customers. Not hundreds of thousands, but we're gaining nevertheless.
Then all of a sudden I read Armsman's post where he talks about our original launch subscription numbers - which isn't really the point. My entire response on this thread has been focused to I5 and ED reaction - so the more pertinent number to look at would be what our numbers were just previous to I5...not our numbers just after launch. Never did I make a claim that we have more subscribers now than we did last year. My point continues to be: ED and I5 haven't created a ghost town out of City of Heroes.
Unfortunately, I pointed to SirBruce's outdated chart instead of NCSoft's numbers. Frankly, SirBruce's is the one I go to - it lists the competition, so to speak. Or at least to a degree. As SirBruce will tell you, it's really difficult to get numbers out of publishers. NCSoft posts ours.
Why is WoW or Lineage doing so much better? Heck - they're great games. But they're also successful in the Asian market. Will we ever catch up to them. Dunno. The WoW guys have a bit of a track record on us...years of producing amazing games. Who ever heard of Cryptic before City of Heroes? There are LEGIONS of Blizzard fans - of course they'd play WoW! And it's a phenomenal game!
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he sighed! he must be weak! quickly, finish him off!! Then he can go back to playing WoW
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Including yours, 5 seconds after it was posted.
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Woot! Gotta love the General forum. 
I love getting you guys all riled up.
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I do love it when people get to a'thinking that announcing the contents of their ignore list is how one goes about being "cool".
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Ooh, I'm cool!
I've got, I think 2 people on my ignore list. I can't even remember their names since they've disappeared from the forums (I wouldn't be surprised if they've been banned).
There was one who made like 16 posts in the defender forum and was obviously a troll like no other.
Then there was this other one who was just an idiot and I couldn't stand him/her/it.
Other than that, I listen to everyone's stupid arguments.
One thing that some people don't seem to think of or see.
I worry about how many people PAY for each month. I don't care if they actually PLAY the game. As long as they PAY for it.
my reasoning? If all the other servers but mine never logged in, but they all payed for that month, it'd be nothing but a Win/Win situation for me.
For one, Cryptic would make more money, as their IT costs would go down. They could tailor the market mor to my servers likeing, I wouldn't have to pick my server from the list of servers, and we'd get to know Jack and the Devs on a more personal basis.
So all of you NOT on my server, pay for the next 12 months, then go play WoW or DDO or something. As long as you've paid CoH/CoV in advance.
Hell, I could do without half my server as long as I had my SG, and another good SG to whoop on in Freaksburg.
*(The above was posted in a jokeing manner, as this thread is comeing close to deletion from the heat that is starting to be generated. Smile folks, and imagine what our friends on Dial up feel like right now. We're complaining about stuff in I6/CoV and I'm SURE some STILL haven't finished downloading I6. Be Happy!)
Hey states, CoV freakn ROCKS, and CoH still rolls on. I didn't like ED at first, but a challenge has been missing from this game for some time. I miss perma hasten, but eh, I live without it. As for the server numbers, just remember......."If you build it, they will come"....or something like that lol. Thanks for the hard work you and all the Devs have put in. 
In a world full of Heroes and Villains, what ever shall I be?.....
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Yeah see -- SIR BRUCE ISN'T KEEPING HIS WEBSITE UP SINCE JUNE
And NCSOFT IS JUST ABOUT THE ONLY COMPANY THAT RELEASES ACTUAL NUMBERS LIKE THESE
From the NC Soft Site
User Statistics
Operating Matrix (City of Heroes)
U.S & Europe As of September. 2005
Highest concurrent users
June 04 31,085
Sept 04 26,870
Dec 04 15,741
Mar 05 21,283
June 05 20,911
Sept 05 22,340
Daily access
June 04 69,011
Sept 04 68,073
Dec 04 45,318
Mar 05 56,366
June 05 59,969
Sept 05 59,133
Monthly access
June 04 169,925
Sept 04 163,053
Dec 04 124,435
Mar 05 140,481
June 05 162,922
Sept 05 150,068
So -- let's discuss the actual numbers here, rather than snapping at Stateman's heels.
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Correct me if I am wrong but this is numbers of those who logged in right? So then this would also include the ones who had free trials since they did log in as well. Also being the case meaning those numbers would be boosted because of this.
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I read that but things like daily and monthly make it seem otherwise. Any company can booster its numbers to make it look better. If it was done technically it is true since they were playing but not actually subscribed. If I saw the source of the numbers might make a difference though. I have searched before without any luck.
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And of course unlike my earlier post, I've never regretted having Taser on ignore. Not sure I could stand the smell of having my head that far up States' backside.
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So, in Nozy world, do you have to put yourself on ignore because you're your own biggest fanboi?
Current Badge Hunter: Plot Device (Rad/Thermal/Dark) - 1,268 Xbox Live: Friggin Taser
King of Electricity, Lead Inmate running the Carl and Sons asylum, the "Man" behind the Establishment, Given Honor in Hat Form By Paragon City (Favorite Forum Poster 2006!), Master of Ceremonies of the Fair Use Law podcast
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*sigh*
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Awww..
::Pets States on the head and gives him a cookie.::
Despite what I feel about the nerfs I think this is still a game worth playing. There will always be doomsayers and those whose only goals is to discredit you. As long as you don't retreat from the players at large just to escape these people you will do fine.
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Why is WoW or Lineage doing so much better?
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Just what you said.. except for one more thing. Mass apeal. The generic fantasy play is something alot of people will go for. Not that there is anything WRONG with that. They are simply taping a resource. Not that they have a complete legup on you. You fill a niche.. a niche the neglected part of the population wants to be in.
::Salute:: We shall follow you, Sir! Well at least most of us will or we wouldn't be here would we?
Edit: Add "uniqueness" along with taping a previously untapped playerbase.
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And of course unlike my earlier post, I've never regretted having Taser on ignore. Not sure I could stand the smell of having my head that far up States' backside.
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So, in Nozy world, do you have to put yourself on ignore because you're your own biggest fanboi?
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Ooooo, SNAP!
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And of course unlike my earlier post, I've never regretted having Taser on ignore. Not sure I could stand the smell of having my head that far up States' backside.
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So, in Nozy world, do you have to put yourself on ignore because you're your own biggest fanboi?
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Ooooo, SNAP!
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Liquid, you [censored]. You stole my responce.
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And of course unlike my earlier post, I've never regretted having Taser on ignore. Not sure I could stand the smell of having my head that far up States' backside.
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So, in Nozy world, do you have to put yourself on ignore because you're your own biggest fanboi?
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Ooooo, SNAP!
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Liquid, you [censored]. You stole my responce.
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I'd totally be upset if It wasn't for the fact that I have you on ignore, thus making me one of the cool kids.
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I read that but things like daily and monthly make it seem otherwise. Any company can booster its numbers to make it look better. If it was done technically it is true since they were playing but not actually subscribed. If I saw the source of the numbers might make a difference though. I have searched before without any luck.
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Go to www.NCSOFT.COM
click the english version
Top menu bar - company - go to IR (investor relations)
Side menu - IR report
Download the "3Q FY2005 Earnings Release(Consolidated)"
It is a zipped .pdf file.
@Catwhoorg "Rule of Three - Finale" Arc# 1984
@Mr Falkland Islands"A Nation Goes Rogue" Arc# 2369 "Toasters and Pop Tarts" Arc#116617
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And of course unlike my earlier post, I've never regretted having Taser on ignore. Not sure I could stand the smell of having my head that far up States' backside.
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So, in Nozy world, do you have to put yourself on ignore because you're your own biggest fanboi?
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Ooooo, SNAP!
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Liquid, you [censored]. You stole my responce.
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I'd totally be upset if It wasn't for the fact that I have you on ignore, thus making me one of the cool kids.
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Oh yeah? well I've got YOUR MOM on ignore. Now I'M the totally cool one because I gloated about my ignore list. I'm so cool it hurts...YOUR FACE!!!
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And of course unlike my earlier post, I've never regretted having Taser on ignore. Not sure I could stand the smell of having my head that far up States' backside.
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So, in Nozy world, do you have to put yourself on ignore because you're your own biggest fanboi?
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Ooooo, SNAP!
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Liquid, you [censored]. You stole my responce.
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I'd totally be upset if It wasn't for the fact that I have you on ignore, thus making me one of the cool kids.
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Oh yeah? well I've got YOUR MOM on ignore. Now I'M the totally cool one because I gloated about my ignore list. I'm so cool it hurts...YOUR FACE!!!
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Oh yeah? Well I've got your mom on ignore times infinity plus ONE! Now bend over and prepare to be spanked by Moonrocks!
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*sigh*
Let's see if I can lay this thing to rest.
At I5 - and now again with ED - some claim that the game is "dying" and that thousands of players are leaving. This isn't true. We're actually gaining customers. Not hundreds of thousands, but we're gaining nevertheless.
Then all of a sudden I read Armsman's post where he talks about our original launch subscription numbers - which isn't really the point. My entire response on this thread has been focused to I5 and ED reaction - so the more pertinent number to look at would be what our numbers were just previous to I5...not our numbers just after launch. Never did I make a claim that we have more subscribers now than we did last year. My point continues to be: ED and I5 haven't created a ghost town out of City of Heroes.
Unfortunately, I pointed to SirBruce's outdated chart instead of NCSoft's numbers. Frankly, SirBruce's is the one I go to - it lists the competition, so to speak. Or at least to a degree. As SirBruce will tell you, it's really difficult to get numbers out of publishers. NCSoft posts ours.
Why is WoW or Lineage doing so much better? Heck - they're great games. But they're also successful in the Asian market. Will we ever catch up to them. Dunno. The WoW guys have a bit of a track record on us...years of producing amazing games. Who ever heard of Cryptic before City of Heroes? There are LEGIONS of Blizzard fans - of course they'd play WoW! And it's a phenomenal game!
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I think that (I'm trying not to speak for everyone, just me), that because some people really don't like the ED changes that people are using the numbers as a way to add to their arguement against it.
I don't like ED because I like to be able to slot my powers the way I wanted and I don't like the fact that now I can't. If I add another enhancement of ANY sort I want it to add at the same percentage that all of the others of its type do. Not to be lower because I already have some of the same in slots.
I can understand that it is YOUR game but to many of us it is also OUR game. Sure, I can still play and don't find it horribel to play but I still hate ED.
I realise that you want people to say in an eloquent way what exactly they don't like but you then attempt to tear their arguements to peices.
I'm pretty sure that your numbers of subscribers may not be affected to much (or at all) by ED but there are still many of us who hate it, just that some, like me, will stay anyway because where else can I play a Super hero (or Villian) liket he ones I read in comics?
But please, please consider reversing ED, It was just so much simpler back when I could add an enhancement and not have to think about it too much.
Now you've added ragdoll physics I maight very well add some knockbacks into powers because being a sadist I like to see my enemies thrown thru the air.
I can't explain in detail my experiences of ED because I'm not as clever as many on these boards are, I mean those people who can work out the maths behind all the changes but I'm pretty sure that my opinion is as valid.
Also I'm aware that many people who play don't even visit the forums and there are many who visit but never post. Again I am not goign to speak for those who's opinions I haven't heard but everyone in game I have spoken too WITHOUT exeption, do NOT like ED.
A common thing that people say is that they are fed up/ sick of respeccing their characters. I realise that English Rose now has many enhancements that are probably doing little or no good in the slots they are in now but to be honest I can't be bothered to change them and work out what to slot her with now.
No, I'm not leaving but I know a few people who have. I'm also not goignt o say that you'll lose customers on a massive scale, as I said, many people don't read these boards, so I'm sure many don't realise the ramificatiosn of ED. I'm pretty sure that people are still slotting as they used to and not paying attention to the numbers because they, like me, expect that if they add something then it should ADD.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm aware that it will still add but on a much lower scale which wastes the time and effort put into getting the enhancement in the first place.
As you are being very defensive about the changes I am sure that you are not open to the suggestion of changing it back but I really widh you would.
Sorry if I went on and on but ED has really annoyed me, not enough for me to leave but it's till annoyed me.
Please remember that although it is YOUR game but as I'm sure you've said before, that we all have our own ideas of fun, well try ot consider others veiws of fun before you make changes that seem to suit yours.
You appear to be adamant (stubborn, not the singer ) that we will need to team for certain missions but at release I'm sure that I was able to solo if I wanted.
I was ok witht he changes to my defender which made her more of a challenge to play, as she didn't have the ability to chain hold mobs with fear anymore. But my mind controller still can hold a lot of mobs but if you took that away then she would be unsoloable.
Just to reiterate, please consider that although it is your game, that others have a different list of wants.
CoV has launched with many bugs and maybe if attention wasn't on ED, there may have been more attention on them. I had several bugged missions in a row today.
(Sorry about grammar and spelling, I'm tired and can't be bothered to correct it )
Infamy, infamy, they've all got it infamy!!!
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Well every game get its share of malcontents who want the game to fail because the dev's didn't do what they thought should be done. You get these big emotional fights on the forums and then people who don't get their way hanging around waiting to be proved right and hoping the game will fail.
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OR maybe...and it might just be me...but maybe they are posting their issues here because the boards are the place for paying customers to post their issues. Id think people who complain want the game to succeed. Why else would they post?