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Ah! A clue! Could the next expansion be about PULP-type heroes, like the Shadow? Hmmm...
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Statesman has said, although the post is long since vaporware and therefore cannot be proven, that he would like to do a City of Pulp type of thing. So yes, I believe this is a possibility.
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When I get time tomorrow, I rummage through the <insert tinny alarm klaxon used for geekery alerts> saved convention report threads I have from last summer and fall, where the loose roadmap to CoV and beyond was laid out over several months of panels.
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"What do you want?"
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...shadows...
...shadows...
...shadows of THE EMPIRE!!!
City of Heroes WILL MERGE WITH Star Wars Galaxies!!!
I knew it!!! JACK IS GEORGE!!! DAMN YOU LUCAS DAMN YOU TO HELL!!! YOU SQUOZE ANOTHER NICKLE OUT OF ME YOU SOB!!! 
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Statesman has said, although the post is long since vaporware and therefore cannot be proven, that he would like to do a City of Pulp type of thing. So yes, I believe this is a possibility.
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With apologies to Jack Sheldon, JMS, and the producers of Schoolhouse Rock:
The (abbreviated) Ballad of Mister Morden
Mister Morden walks out the door.
Mister Morden walks.
Mister Morden talks to Londo.
Mister Morden talks.
Mister Morden was an evil man.
Mister Morden was
Mister Morden is the subject of the Shadows.
What his Associates say he does.
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We farm fun!
So who thinks the next 50$ expansion will be City of Shadows, a PvP only city? And maybe some new enhancements/inspirations that players of CoH and CoV can only get if they buy CoS?
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One of your contacts in CoV Breakout is Mr. Morben.
Suspiciously close, methinks.
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Jack: You read my mind.
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hmm aliens, shadows...
only aliens that have anything to do with shadows are from babylon 5...
kheldans kinda look vorlon/shadow like...
hmm an expansion of the kheldan storyline???
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I found a piece of Alien Tech salvage today. Looked sort of like an ammonite.
It mentioned that technology from an alien race - 'not Kheldian, something new' was beginning to turn up.
They're cooooomingggg....
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I found a piece of Alien Tech salvage today. Looked sort of like an ammonite.
It mentioned that technology from an alien race - 'not Kheldian, something new' was beginning to turn up.
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We know Statesman plays 40k.
So....what're we getting?
If it's Tyranids I'm packing my stuff up and scarpering.
Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!
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NO! No Shadows in the Warp for you.
*dons tinfoil hat*
The Hive Fleet will never take me!
Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!
Looking at the old Stateman posts (I followed the clicky links given earlier in the thread....).
"City of Future Heros" - something like the "Legion of Super Heros" type idea, that would be cool. And having "time portals to the past" to link to the current cities would fit. But putting in new zones that are set in the 30th century could be done with patches, doesn't really warrent a whole expansion. After all, we'd still all wear costumes, all do missions.... the 'theme' really wouldn't be much of a change (at least CoV has a whole new theme to it, even if it is ultimately the same underlying game).
But it would be nice to see a "30th century Paragon city zone" added in someday.
"Pulp" - I loved "Doc Savage" books ! For those that don't know, Doc Savage is essentially a "natural" orgin character, although he is "genetically perfect". Trained in matrial arts, all sciences, hindu and indian techniques such as pain control (dull pain power, LOL !), and is extremely wealthy. Era is the early to mid 1900's - gansters, spies, etc (around 1930-1960 ? Can't remember the precise time, I think around WWII, though). He has 7 assistants - some extremely strong, some weaker but brilliant. Access to really high tech that the opponents don't have (ie, stealth aircraft for missions, etc).
I seem to remember a number of the books had to do with investigating genetic warfare attempts by the enemy (vague: not always soviets, sometimes just power hungry blackmailing madmen), enemies stirring up allies to revolt against each other, lost races causing trouble (ie, hidden tribe of whatever that had aquired tech and were trying to kidnap scientists, or something like that). Reminds me a lot of certain missions in CoH... like the Patient 0 arc, various conflicts between enemy group missions, the time travelling 5th Column fellow (now council, I suppose).
The "pulp" aspect would be amazing, I think. Fans of the old "pulp" would flock to the game - not that there are many out there that are computer literate, this goes back to a long time ago and is pretty much lost now (ever try and find a Doc Savage book ? Or ever see one in the bookstore while just browsing ?).
Now, if the "pulp" aspect was combined with something like 'The Prisoner' (wonder how many of you are familiar with that show....).....
Imagine the following (just for fun idea that I can envision) :
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Setting : A "villiage" somewhere in the world. You don't know where it is though. The perimeter is protected with war walls, patrolled by security. No one has a name - the NPCs just have numbers, and heros no longer have their "secret idenities".
You were not brought here by choice. You were either a hero or a villian, regardless of what you were in your "past life", you are now all on the same side here. But apparently you learned too much, or became a danger to someone too powerful, or perhaps just caught someones attention and curiosity.
No one knows who runs this place. Is it the Rikti ? Is it the government ? Is it someone you can't even imagine ? Is it a combination of people working together to maintain this place ?
Cameras are everywhere, everything you do or say is being watched or recorded.
There are many folks here - many of them are prisoners just like yourself, but some are watchers. Who is who ? You can't tell. But escape is your primary focus, the only purpose you have.
Choose your allies carefully. Some may intentionally or accidentally betray you, and some may betray you thinking you are one of the watchers.
Your missions: Sometimes you are taken for "interrogation" sessions (in the prisoner series, this happened often). Sometimes you are confronted with someone who looks like you, has the same powers as you, and claims that you're the impostor, brainwashed to believe you are someone else. Some missions you have to escape from various mad schemes to get information from you. You are thrust into dreamworlds, sometimes kidnapped, and sometimes "asked" to capture others. Sometimes you think you've escaped, only to find out that you're really still a captive and just in a mock up of home. Other times you do escape, but are re-captured.
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Combine it with the idea of "Doc Savage": You could go the route of a hero/villian place, or you could go the 'spy' route - I'd rather see the super-hero/villian concept maintained, to be honest. Make the city a place like gotham city (or gangland chicago). Add in some wilderness areas.
Give it an early to mid 1900's feel for archietecture, but with high tech items around.
PvP link zones to the hero / villian side, no idea how the storyline would justify this expansion being a 'third side', but I'm sure someone more creative than me could come up with something.
A city designed where the 'citizens' are really all either prisoners or watchers, where paranoia runs high. It gives the 'illusion' of a city where everyone is happy to be there, but everyone knows that is just an illusion, and no one is really sure of what the 'truth' is.
Occasionally the 'prisoners' may get let out of their guilded cage - but wearing 'recall' bracelts to bring them back (allows timed missions in CoH / CoV zones, but they are still really trapped).
You could work in the "spies" concept very very easily. For all you know, the city itself could be in a future time - remember the entire thing is a mock up, the purpose is psychological warfare to "break" their prisoners. The whole "Doc Savage" theme could be worked into the city landscaping, the idea of finding out who has you, why, and trying not to be broken as they search for information you don't even have.....
(Wow- longest post ever)
What do folks thing of the above idea ? Omg, I think a city expansion like that would be downright dangerous, you could lose track of reality playing that !
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We are humbled by your skill.
CoP (City of Pulp) I call it now!
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More likely City of Shadows .. then they can Fit Pulp characters in with other things that fit the concept .. (Plus, I just think it's a better name).
My memory's not as sharp as it used to be.
Also, my memory's not as sharp as it used to be.
"The tip of a shoelace is called an aglet, its true purpose is sinister." The Question
I'm personally hoping for:
City of give me a good reason to go to Faultline
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City of Boomtown isn't just a place to look for Babbage
or
City of we fixed CoH to be just as good as CoV now
Ok, I'm not actually picking at CoH, but I really hope they spruce up the original game package, instead of expanding. I got so tired of DAoC and many of the old zones which were never touched again, yet all the better graphics and better mob AI went to new expansions, and thus the original game zones became an unpopulated shell...
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What about City of Citizens? You can pick powersets like "Medical", "Legal", "Municipal", etc. They'd have powers like "Issue Copyright Litigation" which would be a MAG 10 Fear effect to any hero, or "Bribe Other", where you could get XP for convincing a player to take influence from you.
...just a thought. 
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Ever play SWG? There was a hella lot of "porn" going on in that game.
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Ahh the good ol' days of SWG were "porn" was possible!
For those of you that don't know, there is a job in SWG called Merchant. Merchants could create NPC shop-keepers that would sell their items for them.
Now, you could customize all your shopkeepers(wish we had that here with pets). You could tell them what to say, when to say it and you could even dress them up. If you handed them armor and a weapon they would automatically equip it for you.
However, they forgot to check one thing when they made this system. The NPCs did not know how to check first if they could wear something or not. So if you gave a female shopkeeper something Male to wear or Wookie to wear, they wouldn't be able to wear it, but the game would still take the previous clothing off of them. They would then be completely naked(and when I say naked, I mean really naked. "porn" naked with full details).
This led to people taking Merchant as a job for the sole reason to create a house and fill it with nude NPCs and call it a strip club.
Never underestimate the power that is N.E.R.D.!
"These aren't the strippers you're looking for."
"These aren't the strippers we're looking for."
"Tip them well, but no touching."
"Tip them well, but no touching! No touching!"
"I'm flying free with my beautiful butterfly wings!" ~ Randy Marsh
Wow. I've been playing COH/COV since beta, and never had statesman reply to any post of mine. I'm 34 years old and that just made me feel like a 10 year old at xmas.
I would love a City of Pulp, or Pulp City, expansion....
The Phantom, the Shadow, heck even Indiana Jones....great story telling stuff there.....and heroic, in a slightly different way.
wanna know the first thing i thought of when i saw the thread title? "top secret". remember that one? it was one of my favs. of course i was 10, so it might have sucked and i didn't know it, but the idea of a p&p spy world stoked me to no end.
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Not only did he reply to your post... he replied to your post with very significant news. Good job.
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City of Hank Marvin???
I guess we did get some news. Maybe i really work for recluse, or maybe for......
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"Never ask me that question!"
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