A Plea - COV and COH Costume Pieces
By
Aaron123,
Posted on: 2005-10-20 13:24 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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PLEASE add some or all of the great new options that Villains are receiving to Heroes' costume creator, at least for those players who own both CoV and CoH.
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Noted. We'll see what we can do...
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Um, Jack, you *have* to have this implemented somehow for when you have the redemption/fallen CoV to CoH and back.
I mean, maybe you have to use a face maker in a trial zone or something and a Icons in the Isles, but what are you supposed to do as a hero that "falls" to villainy? Just not ever change your costume again?
Ditto for "monstrous" villains that redeem themselves.
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PLEASE add some or all of the great new options that Villains are receiving to Heroes' costume creator, at least for those players who own both CoV and CoH.
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Noted. We'll see what we can do...
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Thank you!
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PLEASE add some or all of the great new options that Villains are receiving to Heroes' costume creator, at least for those players who own both CoV and CoH.
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Noted. We'll see what we can do...
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Thanks for noting this Statesman. Honestly, there's no good reason to separate the CoV and CoH costume options as it should be left to the player's imagination how they wish their characters to look as opposed to Cryptic's.
I can sort of understand wanting to leave some of the more "villainous" looking costume pieces in CoV, but even those should be left to player discretion. The character generator is one of the best features of both games (and in the industry). It is a far wiser decision to provide more options to players then less. It's part of what keeps them coming back.
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I once again vote against it. Costume diversity for the win.
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/agree, but I guess I'm just weird. :P
I'd like some of the more animalistic options so that our mutants can be less anthropomorphic.
I'd love more jackets, like the one States is wearing on the cover of the "Web of Arachnos" novel.
I'd kill somebody in front of they own mama for lab coats.
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PLEASE add some or all of the great new options that Villains are receiving to Heroes' costume creator, at least for those players who own both CoV and CoH.
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Noted. We'll see what we can do...
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*bats eyelashes at Statesman*
Pretty please? Especially the Feline face and the Baroque costume pieces (after all you already have the Baroque mask, might as well have the whole set!) and... and...
*runs off gibbering excitedly about all the nifty CoV costume items*
Agreed. Cat people need to be more than having a cat face make-up job and costume ears, and can be very heroic (*cough*Lion-O*cough*. There is no reason why we can't have heroic lizard people, too. I can understand if you want to keep the Warwolves at first over in CoV,though. But I'd still like the furry body option.
i say put in some, but not all. the less villain-y ones would be nice for coh.
why can't we have elf ears for CoV? no dark elves? *sad face*
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I once again vote against it. Costume diversity for the win.
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/agree, but I guess I'm just weird. :P
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Same. I like the fact that you can easily tell the difference between a villain and a hero...
I'd just like to see floor length dresses for the fem's. Not all heroines/villainess' want to go the slutty (short skirts) or the mannish (pants) directions.
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I once again vote against it. Costume diversity for the win.
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/agree, but I guess I'm just weird. :P
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Same. I like the fact that you can easily tell the difference between a villain and a hero...
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I'm just gonna say two words:
Dark Armor
No, you can't easily tell the difference between a hero and a villian. Gimme a break, I've run into more dark evil death HEROES than I did villians in beta.
See this is my problem with costume piece segregation. If from the start the COH devs held firm and did not allow things like devil horns, skulls, etc. to be parts of "heroic" costume pieces, I wouldnt have a leg to stand on.
Fact of the matter is I can EASILY make a demon in COH's costume creator. A COV only person can make the majority of my heroes. Why are we so hell bent on keeping things seperate. We should open the gates completely and let only our IMAGINATION be the limiting factor.
If some 1-d person can only rip off Marvel comics, then thats between him and the EULA.
If some emo goth person can only make heros with white faces who cut themselves, so be it.
If some golden age person who only knows of tights and masks makes a hero, power to them.
If someone can only think of jeans and a t-shirt with a leather jacket as a "costume" then so what?
Fact of the matter is, limits made by anyone but our own creative ability SUCK! ESPECIALLY when the costume creator is SO advanced and SO involving that one can literally spend hours making a character.
You know how long it took me to make my WoW guy? 5 bloody minutes. And 4 and a half were me hitting the "random Name" button.
The costume creator should be expolited by the sales department to its fullest, not cut and squeezed to make buyign COV boil down to "So, if you want a Top Hat...."
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Thanks for noting this Statesman. Honestly, there's no good reason to separate the CoV and CoH costume options as it should be left to the player's imagination how they wish their characters to look as opposed to Cryptic's.
I can sort of understand wanting to leave some of the more "villainous" looking costume pieces in CoV, but even those should be left to player discretion. The character generator is one of the best features of both games (and in the industry). It is a far wiser decision to provide more options to players then less. It's part of what keeps them coming back.
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/signed!
There are many villain options that should not be available to heroes (approximately 500 skulls and 1.37 million spikes, the zombie options, the "evil" faces, etc), but there are many that heroes deserve to have, too. Like many of the neutral faces, the reptilian and feline faces, the lab coat, the new leather jacket and military vest, some of the patterns and capes, etc.
The only costume option I can't decide on if it would be good for CoH are the monstrous legs. But I tend to "not share".
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Would be great if we could get some of the villan constume pieces. Remember not every hero is a boyscout who dresses in tights.
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Hey, Some Boy Scouts in tights are really badass =)
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PLEASE add some or all of the great new options that Villains are receiving to Heroes' costume creator, at least for those players who own both CoV and CoH.
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Noted. We'll see what we can do...
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Well.. it's unfair otherwise for the villains to have access to hero costume pieces and not vice-versa. Yes, I'm sure an argument will be raised that some of the cov stuff is heavily villain-centric, but what in the costume generator is deemed hero-centric? Are there heroic pants? Please show me the heroic pants.
The code is there, it has to be. If for whatever reason I'm smoking crack one day and decide to go to a PVP zone, I'm going to see what the villains costumes look like, so clearly that code is allready in COH.... or will I see villains as a giant floating V?
Morale is low. give players a cookie. And costume pieces could very well be that cookie.
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There are many villain options that should not be available to heroes (approximately 500 skulls and 1.37 million spikes, the zombie options, the "evil" faces, etc)
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Ghost Rider might disagree. 
Personally, I think the only villain costume options that arguably shouldn't be available to heroes are the 'evil' faces, and even those I can see valid reasons for a hero to use (for example, creating an 'evil'-faced alternate costume for a 'Jeckyll and Hyde'-style RP plot, for those of us who like those kinds of things). I'd rather see players' creativity given free rein, rather than deliberately limiting options in order to force peoples' characters to fit some preconceived notion of what heroes 'should' look like.
Well, I don't know about all of the evil options. Some of them seem a bit too extreme for any hero, although I do understand how they'd be appropriate for Anti-Heroes like the Punisher, Ghost Rider, converted Villains that turn into heroes, etc.
I definitely do want to see the alignment-neutral costume pieces brought over though.
And perhaps it would be best if many or most of the Villain-exclusive options stayed in COV so Villain players in COV don't cry foul over all of their new and "exlusive" stuff being ported over to the other side?
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I said it before..
I will be extremly mift if I find a costume I want for a hero in CoV that I can make in CoH. Personaly.. I have dumped a metric ton of character ideas because I couldn't find a look I liked. Nothing would suit the hero I wanted.
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(and yeah, I SO want this in CoH. the moto jacket in there now is sportbiker gear... but we have no appropriate helmets or pants to go with!!)
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Actually, it's not even that. It's trendy biker gear - no detailing of the armour that bike jackets have.
And my costume requests (for both CoH and CoV)
* Old style suit jackets back. New ones look shabby, badly tailored and too bulky (especially on female characters).
* All the two part trousers back. Removing these limited a lot of the neat costuming effects you could do without having to have your char in spandex. Also, the textures haven't been rescaled for the new trousers, they just strech, making them look badly pixellated.
* Old style skirts back. New ones are too clingy, don't display textures and clip badly.
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After seeing the costume options in CoV, let me say very firmly...
I want them ALL for CoH
Zombie parts, monstrous parts, evil faces, scarred faces, supernatural faces, spikes, skulls, all of them.
Frankly, I think that a lot of the 'evil' faces are more attractive than the faces in CoH, for both male and female characters. I am *sooo* going to Icon if we get these lovely faces.
One of my favorites so far is the 50/50 mask. MUST HAVE for heroes!
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I once again vote against it. Costume diversity for the win.
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Then they better be consistant about it.
Right now you can make "evil" guys in COH and "heroes" in COV. If they wanna try and push a load like diversity then they're already failing at it.
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I agree, I was somewhat disappointed to see a majority of the CoH pieces carried over. I want to try to tkeep the 2 games somewhat separated for at least a little while. The game is not even out yet and I have seen people request;
CoV costume pieces in CoH
CoV missions/newspapers in CoH
Heroes and villains switching sides
CoV powersets in CoH
Villains and heroes teaming together (one of my least fav requests. Let's fight each other bit first before we team. No heroes/villains teamed with one another until they fought first.)
I think we need to let CoV revel in it's uniqueness for a bit first. I'm buying the game and want to enjoy it for the new game it is. to get my money out of it. There is no point in buying it, if everyone got their way and all CoV content was added to CoH. Eventually I see that happening, but for now let's enjoy CoV as it is and CoH as it is.
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I see nothing wrong with having these options (well, most of them) available to CoH players who have ALSO purchased CoV. It gives even more reason to buy the product if you're a strict CoH player.
I for one would LOVE to have new costume options available to my heroes (at the cost of buying CoV)
I think that would be more than fair since the villains have all the hero costume options.
I do, however, agree that heroes and villains shouldn't be able to team together. That just doesn't seem necessary.
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And for I7... a FRINGED version would be cool... or here's an idea... your chest logo? Put it across the BACK of the biker jacket, instead of the lapel or the toon's chest.
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One of the available 'capes' in CoV is 'fringe' that fits nicely on the back of you jacket...
Well, fringe on the back is nice... but i like the arms and chest too.
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Give us the capes at very least! 
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