More info about CoV pre-orders
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4_Thirty_5,
Posted on: 2005-08-12 14:00 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Ok...so if I leave Chicago at 10:00 am, heading south at 50 mph, and CompUSA leaves Dallas, heading NE at 60 mph, at what point will my pre-order helmet cross my path, if ever?
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*head asplode*
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Umm....sorry if I'm being really thick here, but CompUSA is one of the "Other US retailers", right? With the Wolf Spider helm?
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Yes, any retailer that is not Best Buy, EBGames or GameStop gets the Wolf Spider War Helmet. This includes, but is not limited to, CompUSA, Frys, Amazon, etc.
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A gift is free. This is not a "gift horse" because the pre-order is a prerequisite. This is a marketing ploy.
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Oh, for the love of...before you start quoting the dictionary at us, do you know how pre-ordering even works? It's really amazingly, mind-numbingly simple. Experiments on pregnant women have shown that even fetuses understand the idea. You pay $5 or $10 or whatever now and get $5 or $10 or whatever deducted from the cost of the actual game when you buy it later. In the meantime, you get a bonus CD full of stuff, and you're not spending any more money than you would if you bought the game on release day. Hence: free. You dig?
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No. It is not free. It is at no additional charge. You can be as obnoxious and insulting about it as you like, but that doesn't change its reality. It is a marketing gimick.
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
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The guy is nit-picking about the difference between "Free." and "free with purchase".
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Not at all. There is no such thing as free with purchase. 
It is a bonus item included at no additional charge. I just hate the abuse of the word free. It's not like NCSoft/Cryptic are the only ones doing it. That's why I used the buy X get Y free.
It's been a topic of discussion with my kids who say we get to eat at my job free. No, they pay me (and my coworkers) less money and don't charge us to eat at their facilities. You cannot walk in and eat there at no charge.
I'm sorry that some are taking this as a jab at CoV.
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
Okedokee... I made some phone calls just to answer my own question and per the Game Stop stores that I called, the CoV pre-order boxes have not been shipped to them. If they do not get them this next week, then it most likely will not be until the beginning for next month (September).
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So I am highly PC illiterate so I am going to ask this Barney style. If my PC runs CoH just fine, then will it be able to handle CoV? Just asking now this way I can prepare myself for if I need to go out and spend another 200 frikking dollars on my Vid Card just to get the game playing (like I had to when I got CoH). Thanks for you help.
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Just reposting it since no one gave an answer the first time I asked.
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So I am highly PC illiterate so I am going to ask this Barney style. If my PC runs CoH just fine, then will it be able to handle CoV? Just asking now this way I can prepare myself for if I need to go out and spend another 200 frikking dollars on my Vid Card just to get the game playing (like I had to when I got CoH). Thanks for you help.
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Just reposting it since no one gave an answer the first time I asked.
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Yes, if your computer can run CoH now, it will run CoV perfectly. You might not be able to run CoV all the graphics options turned up to the top, but the graphics won't get any worse, and nor will performance.
There are minimum and recommended specs for CoV listed on the FAQ page. Those system requirements are basically the same as City of Heroes'.
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wha-?! the blood widow helmet is female only? that's not so cool. i don't have an aversion to making a female character ( i actually prefer to do so) but that nixes what i had in mind.
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what did you have in mind? making a male "widow"?
Quick q sicne i coutn find it in here
i ordered the Colectors ed will ti coem with al lthe pre order stuff their promoting in the latestes newsletter as well?
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Yes, if your computer can run CoH now, it will run CoV perfectly
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Unless, apparently, you're still on Windows 98 (2000/XP are the minimum requirements listed for CoV). Right now, I've got me some PROBLEMS with this. -_-
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Cantatas (sorry if mispelled), Thanks for answering my earlier question. I was kind of worrid about shelling out 200+ just to play the game like I had to to be able to play CoH (had an outdated Video Card), and on another note...anyone know where I can buy some cheap [censored] RAM??? Thanks again all
The older your RAM is the more it will cost so if it costs as much as you make it sound then just upgrade to a new motherboard so you get a newer type of RAM.
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Yes, if your computer can run CoH now, it will run CoV perfectly
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Unless, apparently, you're still on Windows 98 (2000/XP are the minimum requirements listed for CoV). Right now, I've got me some PROBLEMS with this. -_-
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They've said in the past that if you can play CoH, you'll be able to play CoV. I'm not sure why Win98 isn't listed as a minimum requirement (maybe an oversite), but I'm going by that. Maybe you could PM Alexa and ask her about it?
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Quick q sicne i coutn find it in here
i ordered the Colectors ed will ti coem with al lthe pre order stuff their promoting in the latestes newsletter as well?
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pealse ues as pelclhker! (ora tlesat tkae htet ime 2 dble chk hwatu opst)
Um, you guys do know that the main reason they gave the Blood Widow helm to the chickies was that only the FEMALE of all widow spider species is deadly?
Males do not cause any severe bites. Males do not eat the females rather than get jiggy with them. Only female widows do this, so therefore only females should logically get a helm named Blood Widow.
Specially since one of the requisites into the order's almost sure as hell being female. (By order I mean the ranks of Blood Widows, not the preorder.)
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And the link that someone had posted for EBGames for the pre-order "collector's edition" was like $80. Is that right? WTH is with that price tag?
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Because theres more stuff? Like every other Collector's Edition that has come out in the past year?
The extra stuff in the Collector's Edition will at least include 7 CoH/CoV HeroClix figurines. It's up to you to decide whether that is incentive to buy the Collector's Edition. It is not required.
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Clintonian....normally your info is spot on, however on EBGames' website, they don't say anything about HeroClix figures.
Here is what they have -
<ul type="square">[*]Bonus disc will ship the week of 8/15/05 via First Class mail at no extra charge.[*] Beta Access to City of Villains (start date to be finalized)[*] Two-day head-start Play City of Villains before it ships to the public![*] An exclusive In-game crab spider Battle Helmet[*] Limited Edition Lord Recluse vs. Statesman City of Villains poster[*] A 14 Day FREE TRIAL for the City of Heroes game for the purchaser of the pre-order AND a friend[*] Bonus CD-ROM includes videos, art, wallpapers, screenshots, Rogue Isles map, the City of Heroes comic book and more![/list]
Also, it is $79.99 + tax. And to top it off, that is $79.99 + tax up front - NOT $5 or $10 and then $5 or $10 off when the game is released.
Now, walking into the store may be different; however, when purchasing online you pay the full amount at once.
The link was provided in this thread previously (I think), but for some reason I cannot find it. So that (any of) you may find it easily here it is.
If there were 7 CoH/CoV Hero Clix figures in the package, I could see an $80 fee. But there is no mention of that. And $80 for 1 helmet that can only be used by 1 gender which is touted as being exclusive but EVERYONE will have access to (this is verified by a red name, no less), a poster (big whoop), a 2 day head start and an unknown Beta entry date is not justifiable for that price tag (IMO). Either EBGames does not have all the included items listed (which is what may be going on, since the "regular" edition has the exact same content info) or someone hasn't disclosed what the "Collector's Edition" consists of.
Until information is disseminated, I am going to buck against it. 
P.S. - I'm at work and I don't have the ability to run Flash. This means I can't see info on the CoV website because in whoever's ultimate wisdom they didn't make the website html / user-friendly. So I can't go there to verify any info. If someone can contradict the above with info from the CoV website, I'd appreciate it.
That the collector's edition will contain all 7 HeroClix figures including one unique has been confirmed by the devs, I don't have a link but I suspect if you go through Clintonian's primer you'll find it.
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Quick q sicne i coutn find it in here
i ordered the Colectors ed will ti coem with al lthe pre order stuff their promoting in the latestes newsletter as well?
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pealse ues as pelclhker! (ora tlesat tkae htet ime 2 dble chk hwatu opst)
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Normally NekoLurker's posts are fine, I don't know what is up with this :/
All the CEs come from the same place, so the heroclix, etc, will bein the CE that the devs/NCsoft say will be in the CE.
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Negaduck: I see you found the crumb. I knew you'd never notice the huge flag.
Swellguy - your even more right then you have said so far.
Its not even as "free" as no cost with purchase.
No additional cost with purchase is usually an incentive to buy existing stock; here you are making a up-front payment, giving the store cash it can use in part to offset the orders of the non-pre sold copies and at the same time guaranteeing you are buying one copy thus making your copy a 0 risk sale. You are also giving up money now for no immediate benefit, which is a contract 101 detriment.
A normal sale is a large risk: buy at wholesale - hope each copy sells
$5-10 dollars is a higher percentage of wholesale cost then retail price and so you pay their cost in part upfront.
A pre-order ensures (or nearly so) a sale and gives the store operating cash to use against existing stock without selling anything.
Pre-Orders with a down payment are AMAZINGLY good deals for stores. Any incentive which is tied to one deserves to be treated like any thing else in a customer contract and if it seems like a raw deal the customer should say so. Acting like they should feel honored for the advantage they are giving the store is just wrong.
- Kitsune
Well I've pre-ordered my Collectors Edition from Gamestop.com and I'm not being charged the full amount when my bonus disc ships next week. I'll be charged for shipping and that's it.
Hmm. Good to hear about web-site orders. In store involves a down payment.
- Kitsune
Well, I know gamestop gave me two offers to get $10 credits applied to my credit card - signing up for two 30 trials, cancel before the 30 days is up or get charged $9.95 for each one.
So I have a text file, copied several times, on my desktop saying Call on 8/25 or so - according to the details you get the cred no matter what, but I am going to wait a few days before canceling just to make sure.
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Negaduck: I see you found the crumb. I knew you'd never notice the huge flag.
Right. The $9.95 is for the overnight shipping of the bonus disc, once the game is released you will be charged the rest. I can't speak for the other game sites but I know this is how gamestop.com is working. 
This may have been asked before, but, does anyone know when the preorder boxes will actually be in stores?
I got a new question. There's a CoV available at Amazon.com, however it doesn't specifically say pre-order - does that mean it's not, i.e. it's just a way to "reserve" CoV, or is it just that amazon doesn't specifically write pre-order but if I order this item it'll be like getting pre-order?
(Heh, I'm not sure if that sentence made sense )
And if it's in fact not pre-order then the next question is, does amazon do pre-order deals in general?
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You should have stayed with the graphic effect like CoH had. That was great because I can use it with all my characters (except the Naturals). With this helmet I can only use it if I want all my characters to look alike, at least in one aspect. Can't say that idea appeals much. Maybe if it was something that could be integrated into outfits easier, like a bracer or necklace, but not a helmet.
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