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I loved this news post from Penny Arcade back in 2004:



Yeah. **** Dragons, indeed.
Thank you for finding this! I was searching for it all day as evidence that Tycho dug CoH, at least for a little while...

**** Dragons! **** them in the ***!


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I loved this news post from Penny Arcade back in 2004:

Yeah. **** Dragons, indeed.
Though if one ended up rising from the bowels of the Earth and started tearing Paragon's buildings apart, I wouldn't complain (aside from the part where I started shooting at it).


 

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It was for a couple minutes, I tried to tell him that I'm a fan of his webcomic (I wouldn't really say I'm actually a fan, though I do read it occasionally) to be polite, and he offered to sell me something that had been autographed for $20. I didn't have the cash, told him so, and he snapped at me for wasting his time.

I was the only person near his booth. He plopped his fat *** back down in his chair and picked up a comic book, then scowled at me until I walked away.
He could have just been having a bad day.

I don't know, I've never met the guy, he could be a complete ****-hole for all I know, but one bad encounter is hardly enough to make such a judgement.


And, as a general observation, people on internet forums seem to love finding fault with the personalities of web-comic artists, for some reason.


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Well, http://www.penny-arcade.com/ has the follow-up CoH article on the front page at the top, and it seems the author is certainly irritated at NCSoft for shutting our game down.

I'm happy! Someone should forward this to the sunset email at the very least. If I thought anyone was actually reading it, I would spend an hour googling every CoH shutdown article by the major sites and send all the links in one email to NCSoft.


 

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He could have just been having a bad day.

I don't know, I've never met the guy, he could be a complete ****-hole for all I know, but one bad encounter is hardly enough to make such a judgement.


And, as a general observation, people on internet forums seem to love finding fault with the personalities of web-comic artists, for some reason.
First impressions and all that. I have stopped listening to a few different bands music because I had the unfortunate chance to interact with them after the show. It's a shame, because I really liked their music, but I am not going to pay someone to piss* on me.

One bad encounter is enough. They will need to work hard to get me to change my impression of them.

*At no point was I actually pissed on at a concert.


 

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He plopped his fat ***
I'm sure THIS is all that set the context for your perception of the situation...


 

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Originally Posted by Liquid View Post
I loved this news post from Penny Arcade back in 2004:



Yeah. **** Dragons, indeed.
Thank you for finding this! I was searching for it all day as evidence that Tycho dug CoH, at least for a little while...

**** Dragons! **** them in the ***!
This thread has gone to the Americans!


 

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I'm sure THIS is all that set the context for your perception of the situation...
I honestly do not know know what you're trying to say here.

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First impressions and all that.
Exactly.

My first impression was, as I said, that he does not seem to be the sort of person who would go out of his way for a kindness unless there were something in it for him. I met him and acted politely--if nothing else, I was meeting somebody who was actually famous on the internet, so there was some small level of awe there--and he shooed me away because I couldn't afford his autographed thing (I think it was a DVD?) right then and there.


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The topic at hand: First impressions. I think you made yours when you saw him.


 

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I remember when my main had accrued so much debt he was effectively unplayable. I had to wait until they imposed debt caps before I could make any progress on him again.
Wait, I don't remember there ever not being debt caps in the live game. I do remember when they were quite a bit higher, though.

Did I forget some early change?

Bear in mind, I never had a character at any debt cap except ones already at 50 who I very occasionally capped out on failed group activities like trying to fight through Yellow Dawns at old-school Hamidon raids. (And yes, I had a Blaster.) So my awareness of the caps was fairly theoretical.


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The topic at hand: First impressions. I think you made yours when you saw him.
Oh, you think I was judging him on appearance? I already knew he was a giant Weeble-shaped blob. As I mentioned, he's internet famous. I'd seen pics long before I met him.


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Wait, I don't remember there ever not being debt caps in the live game. I do remember when they were quite a bit higher, though.
Debt caps are now set by your character level (and have been since like Issue 4 or 5). I think prior to that, there was a universal debt ceiling that basically amounted to "any more debt than this would require switching data types."


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It might not be bad idea to go to their forums and make a civil, well written plea for support and petition signatures.


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I'm not sure, but it sounds like you're implying PA's integrity is compromised. So if GW2 is paying for ad space, PA won't say anything negative about it or NCSoft.

This seems to be completely negated by a comic they did just last week.
Okay, I'll give you that. Honestly, I just went that route with my kvetching because I'd been quietly grumbling to myself about the GW2 ads before that strip went up. I admit, I expected that if they addressed it at all it would be through the PA Report or a news post, which would be taken a little more seriously than the comic.

Speaking of which, I did appreciate Tycho's newspost. Maybe he should check to see if he still has a game account since you can't sign up for a new one.


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No AT/powerset, AFAIC, is "undesirable." Give me a halfway competent player - or at least one willing to listen and go with the rest of the team - and we're good.

 

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Debt caps are now set by your character level (and have been since like Issue 4 or 5). I think prior to that, there was a universal debt ceiling that basically amounted to "any more debt than this would require switching data types."
I believe the debt cap used to be about half a level. It was never unlimited. But it could seem that way because a) relative to the skill level of the players the game was much harder back then, so death was more common (and with it more debt) and b) XP was much lower back then, so the ability to burn off debt was much lower back then and c) there wasn't as much content, so if your leveling was slowed by debt you could find yourself out of missions and having to street sweep. And street sweeping was one of those activities that some players and teams could do effectively, and others couldn't. Our zones are not really always very well configured for street sweeping, i.e. the level 15 Lt with the level 11 minions in Steel Canyon.

I think I have screenshots where the mission complete bonus back around release was about as much XP as three or four minion kills. XP was not exactly plentiful at release.


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I thought debt cap back then (when it started at level 5) was a full level's worth. And with no difficulty slider no way to eliminate a boss from a mission, lower XP, no Patrol XP, no way to abandon missions, etc. it was easy to get stuck in debt if you soloed with an AT/powerset combo with low DPS. Of course kitty-corner missions in the original Hollows didn't help at level 6 (damn Jewel of Hera).


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Yes, human-beings naturally judge someone based upon first impressions, but, that's not a good thing.

It's an animal instinct left over from millions of years ago. It's the main cause of racism and most bigotry.

Yes, humans do judge based upon first impressions, but they shouldn't.


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Yes, human-beings naturally judge someone based upon first impressions, but, that's not a good thing.

It's an animal instinct left over from millions of years ago. It's the main cause of racism and most bigotry.

Yes, humans do judge based upon first impressions, but they shouldn't.
Yes they should. If someone creeps me the **** out upon meeting them for the first time, I am not going to leave my kids with them.

I can logically work my way through and ignore ridiculous stereotypes and avoid bigotry and racism.

It's survival instinct, and my experiences in life have taught me not to ignore it.


 

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Yes, human-beings naturally judge someone based upon first impressions, but, that's not a good thing.

It's an animal instinct left over from millions of years ago. It's the main cause of racism and most bigotry.

Yes, humans do judge based upon first impressions, but they shouldn't.
There's a lot more to first impressions than physical appearance. A polite, respectful attitude can offset a reaction to someone's appearance. But a good number of people know a jerk when they encounter one.


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It might not be bad idea to go to their forums and make a civil, well written plea for support and petition signatures.
There already is a thread:
http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discu...dios-closed/p1

And so people know Gabe and Tycho do not read the forums. But there has been a PA group in City of for ages and there has been a thread since the news broke discussing the game closing.

They've been playing on Beta.


 

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Yes they should. If someone creeps me the **** out upon meeting them for the first time, I am not going to leave my kids with them.
Because all people who might want to harm children appear inherently creepy?

Here's an idea, rather than just judging someone on first impressions, actually get to know someone before leaving your children with them.
I would never leave my children with someone I'd only met once, regardless of my first impressions.

Why do you believe that a bad person can never give a good first impression and a good person can never give a bad one?


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Because all people who might want to harm children appear inherently creepy?
Nope, but thankfully after I have already discarded the creepy folks, I can pay more attention to the social cues of people that only make my radar twitch instead of scream.

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Here's an idea, rather than just judging someone on first impressions, actually get to know someone before leaving your children with them.
I would never leave my children with someone I'd only met once, regardless of my first impressions.
That's brilliant! Holy ****, why didn't I think of that? Well, now I can pay attention to first impressions AND leave my kids with people I have gotten to know. I was still a little worried before...

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Why do you believe that a bad person can never give a good first impression and a good person can never give a bad one?
Why do you believe that's what I believe? I am pretty sure I said that someone who gives me a bad first impression will have to work harder to turn that around. I didn't say I completely write someone off from a first impression. Just like I wouldn't completely trust someone after a favorable first impression.

But to say that one should ignore first impressions is foolish IMO.


 

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Because all people who might want to harm children appear inherently creepy?
I'm sorry you are expressing a logical fallacy.
Just because you wouldn't leave your kids with someone who seemed skeevy when you first meet them doesn't not mean the inverse is true and you would leave them with a random stranger who didn't until you knew them better.


 

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There's a lot more to first impressions than physical appearance.
What makes you think that SD was talking about appearances? I've met literally tonnes of people who look completely normal, but as soon as they open their mouths, the creepy factor goes through the roof.

First impressions start when you first see the person, but they don't end there. The entire first meeting, up until the point where you part company counts as "first impressions".


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