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By Agent White,
Posted on: 2012-10-01 12:16 in CoH and CoV General Discussions

 

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Originally Posted by Roderick View Post
What makes you think that SD was talking about appearances? I've met literally tonnes of people who look completely normal, but as soon as they open their mouths, the creepy factor goes through the roof.

First impressions start when you first see the person, but they don't end there. The entire first meeting, up until the point where you part company counts as "first impressions".
Some people look and act "good" but you get a gut instinct that says something is not right. Don't ignore your gut. I am not saying just go with it but use it to keep on your toes.

total kick to the gut

This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.

 

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Originally Posted by Father Xmas View Post
I thought debt cap back then (when it started at level 5) was a full level's worth. And with no difficulty slider no way to eliminate a boss from a mission, lower XP, no Patrol XP, no way to abandon missions, etc. it was easy to get stuck in debt if you soloed with an AT/powerset combo with low DPS. Of course kitty-corner missions in the original Hollows didn't help at level 6 (damn Jewel of Hera).
It seems like it did used to be ten bubbles of debt and was later moved to 5, but that was so long ago I can't say for sure.

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Originally Posted by MentalMaden View Post
It seems like it did used to be ten bubbles of debt and was later moved to 5, but that was so long ago I can't say for sure.
I do believe you are right. What I do know was back in the pre-CoV days, there was a group on Protector that called themselves "Team Debt Cap" (usually led by whoever targetted for Hami at the time). It was because of them that I remember that the cap at one point was 1.1 million at 50.

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Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man View Post
Debt caps are now set by your character level (and have been since like Issue 4 or 5). I think prior to that, there was a universal debt ceiling that basically amounted to "any more debt than this would require switching data types."
I don't think that's true. I think that, like Arcanaville said, it was always based on some fraction of your current level. I do believe that fraction changed, we also got 1/2 debt in missions. But I don't ever remember it being limited only to machine representation.

But I won't swear it wasn't so. I just can't remember it being like that.

PS: Here's the seemingly relevant info and history on debt that's listed on ParagonWiki, for what that's worth.
  • A character can have a maximum of five full defeats' worth of debt.
Historical
  • Level at which debt starts was raised to level 10 in Issue 5
  • Debt from being defeated in a mission was halved in Issue 5
  • Debt was lowered another 20% during Issue 11
Edit: Not from the wiki, but I poked another old timer and he said he thought it was originally capped at 10 deaths. This aligns perfectly with the remembrance of the cap being 1.1M at 50. The current cap at 50 is 440,000. That's only 80% of the pre-I11 cap, which would have been 550,000 at 5 deaths. 10 deaths would double that and be 1.1M.

Edit 2: He's right. It changed in I6.

Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA