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I don't know where you buy your books, but I wouldn't consider your OP "standard format literature". I'd like to point out that not everyone on these boards have English as their primary language, so posts that are hard to read for native speakers may be outright impossible to decypher for those who are from other countries.|
Originally Posted by Evil_Legacy
even though it's standard format of many written literature
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English is my 2nd language and I spend a lot of time keeping it at a level that allows me to read pretty much anything. Even still I get temporarily confused when people substitute words with something that sounds very similar such as of/have.
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As everyone has been trying to tell you, we're not the disrespectful ones around here. Many people have been genuinely trying to help you, myself included, and you keep throwing that back in our faces.|
Originally Posted by Evil_Legacy
redeeming quality or not has no ties to respect and disrepect. If it was that aweful, even though it's standard format of many written literature, then maybe it was best that they moved on if they had nothing respectful to say or it was THAT hard to read.
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Just look at the volume of people you are claiming to be disrespectful. I hope you can one day realize where the real roots of the problem are: your perception and your attitude.
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Six pages now.|
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What is this five pages of.
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I have dealt with a lot of people like the OP, and have yet to see one actually make this connection. There's a mental disconnect somewhere between other people's actions and consequences and one's own actions and consequences. |
Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
As everyone has been trying to tell you, we're not the disrespectful ones around here. Many people have been genuinely trying to help you, myself included, and you keep throwing that back in our faces.
Just look at the volume of people you are claiming to be disrespectful. I hope you can one day realize where the real roots of the problem are: your perception and your attitude. |
In most cases, I have found the only useful solution is to ignore the person. As I have recently discovered (after 7+ years; yeah, I'm smart), these forums have an ignore feature.
Oh, and Dechs: I lost The Game because of your sig.
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Oh, and Dechs: I lost The Game because of your sig.
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Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn
Evil, let's take a look at the very post you are complaining about being "rude and uncalled for"..
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Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn
This was posted as a suggestion, and isn't insulting at all. He's stating that your post was tough to read (which it was), and that it contains more than a few spelling errors. He even admits that he's not the best speller himself to diffuse any possible rudeness..
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Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn
You don't see people getting corrected as much as you did, because most of the time, the OPs go back and actually try to fix their errors, instead of getting defensive about something that wasn't rude. You come across as somebody with a huge chip on their shoulder. You see insults where there are none, and you read a lot more rudeness into posts than there actually is..
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Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn
People pointing out that your post is tough to read on a forum (where we can only determine your message if we can read and understand it) isn't rude. It's not grammar nazi-ish. It's them saying that if you can format your posts better, more people will be able to read and understand it.
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Originally Posted by mauk2
Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
"Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard.  Never change, E_L! |
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Let me point this out. How is these people been helpful at all? The same ones that try to force me twist my arm to download a program I dont want to download? When I say I'm not comfortable with it, they act offended and start being rude. How is it helpful that people ask for proof of what I'm talking about they still ridicule it and call it impossible? How is it helpful to totally dismiss and basically say my opinion and my experience is way below what their opinions are? How is it helpful when people tell me I didnt go through something when I did as if they are in my head? Explain to me how that is helpful at all and not pure rudeness or disrespect. If that is help I dont want your help, or anyone with help like that. That is not genuine help at all. And I'm the one acting like a chip on my shoulder? And the root isnt my perception and attitude it's that I l;et that crap so much that people think they can just do it and act victim when I say something about it. Guess what call it what ever you want it, but I aint changing. So help in this way by not helping me if you cant be respectful, cant stop putting my opinions down, cant stop trying to force me to download programs, and putting in help where I didnt even ask for any in the first place. So help in that manner or not at all or else I will continue to address the disrespect and nonhelpful posts. |
Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
As everyone has been trying to tell you, we're not the disrespectful ones around here. Many people have been genuinely trying to help you, myself included, and you keep throwing that back in our faces.
Just look at the volume of people you are claiming to be disrespectful. I hope you can one day realize where the real roots of the problem are: your perception and your attitude. |
For those that have helped truely, thanks. And you aint one of them at all, because you aint did nothing but give me crap so damn right I threw it right back at you. Funny people cant take a hint and maybe they should stop "helping" then if they cant help in a correct proper respectful manner.
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Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
"Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L! |
"They started it, so I'm justified."
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Well hell, if it was put like that in the first place Iwould of changed it. Didnt realize that there was people who have english as second language here. |
Originally Posted by DSorrow
I don't know where you buy your books, but I wouldn't consider your OP "standard format literature". I'd like to point out that not everyone on these boards have English as their primary language, so posts that are hard to read for native speakers may be outright impossible to decypher for those who are from other countries.
English is my 2nd language and I spend a lot of time keeping it at a level that allows me to read pretty much anything. Even still I get temporarily confused when people substitute words with something that sounds very similar such as of/have. |
But these posters made one thing and only one thing clear. They dont give a flap about me, my feelings, respect, or anything. So, logically why should I give flap about them and go out of my way to change anything? If the shoe was on the other foot, and I came in on their post like these people did here they would tell me to flack off and not change a dang thing.
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Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
"Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L! |
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No they started it and I'm not just to sit there and just gladly take this direspect any longer and pretend it's "help". And I'm not going to pretend I dont see the double standard here "it's ok for them to be rude and obnoxius" but not ok for me even when they initiated it. That is what this is about. My perception is always wrong but the other person is always right ,even when it comes to my own actions. But when I percieve their actions as wrong, oh hell, it's the reactio nas if I murdered someone and and bathed in their blood. Double standard. Everytime I talk about what works for me, I'm wrong, as if I dont know what works for me. But when I say their wrong for saying I dont know what works for me, I'm the one with a chip on my shoulder. Double standard again. And it goes on and and on. I just cant sit here and take it any longer and just let it ride, but I'm wrong again!. Yet, they cant be wrong because they are Jesus Christ incarnate and cant let my spelling/grammar mistakes go but I'm wrong for pointing it out that they dont do it to other posts. I see what this is, no matter what I do I'm wrong and they are right. I'm suppose to just sit here and be disrespected and act like I have no self worth and let people talk to me anykind of way. Well tis is one of those situations where I dont care if one person disagree or the entire population of COX disagree. I'm not giving up my self worth and kissing everyone behind even when they disrespect me. That is akin to someone kickign me in the face then getting pissed because I didnt thank them for it. That's how I am, how I will be and I aint changing that. So people pick fights with me, I aint goign to thank them for it and shirk away. See where that got me. Here and nothign to show for it besides people thinking think they can just come out of the blue and do it for no reason at all, and then turn around and treat everyoen else wit hthe upmost respect even when correcting them. But not me. Guess they view me so far below the human species below a dog even tha tI dont even deserve that simple basic respect. And then they have the audacity to think something is wrong with me when I address it? Get the flip out of here with that nonsense as I aint goign to just let it fly any longer.
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"They started it, so I'm justified."
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Originally Posted by mauk2
Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
"Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L! |
That's not my impression of how things went, but I can understand how that would be frustrating.
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Originally Posted by Evil_Legacy
No they started it and I'm not just to sit there and just gladly take this direspect any longer and pretend it's "help".
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Rangle did not disrespect you.
Hyperstrike did not disrespect you.
Neither Rylas nor Sailboat were disrespectful either. Many more people after that were compassionate and apologetic in their responses, trying to get you to understand why you are having issues on these boards. All of them were pointing out the difficulty you were having trying to reach an audience. In every case, you replied in extremely rude and disrespectful manner.
No one "kicked you in the face." You did that to us with your replies, and here we are still being patient and trying to get through to you. There is no double standard here. They did not start this. This thread is not about HeroStats or how right or wrong your experience is. This thread started as "your post is difficult to read" and ended with you flailing about and screaming about disrespect.
You need to look at the common denominator here. You are having problems with the majority of the community on these boards. You are the problem.
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I understand your feelings and perceptions. Trust me, every time I post a build up for somebody who asks for one I usually get slammed for posting some kind of crappy build that nobody in their right mind would play. Yet, it's the build I've made for myself and I play continuously and have great success with. There is a Forum Cartel on here that basically sways the opinions of people in certain directions and have, whether they choose to believe it or not, some sway over decisions on what the Devs do to "Balance" powers in this game.
However, it is somewhat difficult to read some of your posts that you have made because they do have a tendency to look like a wall of text. Keep in mind that todays society also has the attention span of an A.D.D. Spider Monkey with a new baby cat and a trunk full of shiney new toys. Also as some have pointed out, English is not everybody's first language and makes it rather difficult for some to make the effort to read even well thought out, grammatically correct, and proplerly formatted posts.
Now with that being said, considering your original topic about comparing Electric Armor and Will Power armor I find that Electric Armor is more of the late bloomer and end-game beast compared to Will Power. I love Electric Armor because, in my opinion, it's one of the best Resist sets that has the most utility to it. There are a lot of ways one can build for Electric Armor where most other sets are usually locked into building specifically for one thing.
To me Will Power is a great beginning game set. I find that it's very user-friendly in the beginning because it allows you to slot for Accuracy and Damage more than trying to slot for Endurance Reduction at the start so you can manage your blue bar better. This allows you to hit harder earlier on in the game and feel like you are doing more to contribute to the team other than just being a meatshield and taunt bot.
Over all I'd say that Electric Armor outperforms Will Power. I love my WP/SS Tank a lot and it has great survivability. But I love my Elec/TW way more and play it more often than I do my WP.
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nope not majority just a relative few. I handled more. Even if it was majority, that doesnt mean it's right or proper anyways. But no they was disrespectful first. That's what I'm sticking to as that is what I observed, and the observation of lack of correcting other posts but just couldnt let mine pass. So there is no way to change my perception on this because I have the posts, I have the history, and the same ones go from thread to thread posting nothing of the subject but to start trouble. How come I dont see anyone of those same ones on some of my other threads that have no response? But as soon as someone starts trouble, here they come. I have been kicked in the face by some of the very people you mentioned. And thus I kicked back. What did you expect? But I'm the problem. What ever you say. Well anyways unless anyone has anything to add about the actual content of the post, I'm done here. |
Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
Let me try this again:
Rangle did not disrespect you. Hyperstrike did not disrespect you. Neither Rylas nor Sailboat were disrespectful either. Many more people after that were compassionate and apologetic in their responses, trying to get you to understand why you are having issues on these boards. All of them were pointing out the difficulty you were having trying to reach an audience. In every case, you replied in extremely rude and disrespectful manner. No one "kicked you in the face." You did that to us with your replies, and here we are still being patient and trying to get through to you. There is no double standard here. They did not start this. This thread is not about HeroStats or how right or wrong your experience is. This thread started as "your post is difficult to read" and ended with you flailing about and screaming about disrespect. You need to look at the common denominator here. You are having problems with the majority of the community on these boards. You are the problem. |
Dont disresepct me I wont disrespect you simple as that, and treat me with fairness then I'll have no problems. If ya going to jump on my post and trying to correct grammar and spelling, at least there be MAJORITY of the posts with someone correcting them. Seeing as there isnt, single me out and be rude, then dang right I'ma have problem with you and anyone else that does it.
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Originally Posted by mauk2
Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
"Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L! |
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Originally Posted by oOStaticOo
I understand your feelings and perceptions. Trust me, every time I post a build up for somebody who asks for one I usually get slammed for posting some kind of crappy build that nobody in their right mind would play. Yet, it's the build I've made for myself and I play continuously and have great success with. There is a Forum Cartel on here that basically sways the opinions of people in certain directions and have, whether they choose to believe it or not, some sway over decisions on what the Devs do to "Balance" powers in this game.
However, it is somewhat difficult to read some of your posts that you have made because they do have a tendency to look like a wall of text. Keep in mind that todays society also has the attention span of an A.D.D. Spider Monkey with a new baby cat and a trunk full of shiney new toys. Also as some have pointed out, English is not everybody's first language and makes it rather difficult for some to make the effort to read even well thought out, grammatically correct, and proplerly formatted posts. Now with that being said, considering your original topic about comparing Electric Armor and Will Power armor I find that Electric Armor is more of the late bloomer and end-game beast compared to Will Power. I love Electric Armor because, in my opinion, it's one of the best Resist sets that has the most utility to it. There are a lot of ways one can build for Electric Armor where most other sets are usually locked into building specifically for one thing. To me Will Power is a great beginning game set. I find that it's very user-friendly in the beginning because it allows you to slot for Accuracy and Damage more than trying to slot for Endurance Reduction at the start so you can manage your blue bar better. This allows you to hit harder earlier on in the game and feel like you are doing more to contribute to the team other than just being a meatshield and taunt bot. Over all I'd say that Electric Armor outperforms Will Power. I love my WP/SS Tank a lot and it has great survivability. But I love my Elec/TW way more and play it more often than I do my WP. |
Yea anyone starting off as a tank or new to te set, you can go wrong with WP. End management is more of an after thought than the main thing like many sets, even electric. But electric end becomes after thought one power sink comes into play. There is no better control than a mob with no end. With no end, they cant attack you.
elec/TW is a cool combo. Have you tried a electic armor/staff? Not as burst damage as TW but it's a cool looking set that still gets the job done.
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Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
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Originally Posted by Evil_Legacy
But no they was disrespectful first.
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Originally Posted by Rangle M. Down
You might consider separating your paragraphs a bit better. My eyes sorta crossed at this as it looks like a wall of text...
 FYI, there were also a few typos you may wish to fix. I'm horrible at spelling myself, so I always end up catching mine after I've posted... sigh. |
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
Please show me what part of this is disrespectful:
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But dont worry the answer you seek is already in the prior post. But this convo is going in circles, 6 pages worth and there is not much left to say nor explained. Got abot 6 pages of materials. Apparently the minds are made up on both side, so what is the point of even talking about it anymore? There probably isnt.
No it's not everyone, just the same ones over and over and over. Rangle happened to be a fairly new one, one of the first new ones in a while and we'll probably cross each other's path in the future on more better terms.
Either way I'm not going to let a relatively few people stop me from posting. There are two posts that are already written and just need to be transfered to here, and one more in the head thus far, that probably will come first.
Well I think what I said, 6 pages of materials if anyone have more questions. See some of you hopefully on more respectful terms or not at all.
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Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
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I don't think anyone here has been trying to stop you from posting. If they've come across as "kicking you in the face" or being rude, that's in large part your perception. I think you might have been applying tone behing their words that wasn't there. I've seen way more *constructive* criticism than anything else.|
Originally Posted by Evil_Legacy
Either way I'm not going to let a relatively few people stop me from posting. There are two posts that are already written and just need to be transfered to here, and one more in the head thus far, that probably will come first.
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My Advice:
Make a new thread, change the title a little and rework your OP.
Formatting on these forums isn't like writing a Word doc. You can't indent here, so paragraph breaks are next to impossible to see. It's always best to hit Return/Enter twice when making a new paragraph. That's a very common practice around here and it makes it easier to separate thoughts.
Managing paragraph size is as important as separating them. Large chucks of paragraphs are just going to become smaller walls of text. An ongoing paragraph is just as bad as a run-on sentence. If you can keep your thoughts together in shorter, more concise, bricks, then you're going to make your point easier to read. And faster.
Section off your different main points. Something like adding titles between sections is a big help. I use the /b and /color commands for section titles. They catch the eye of the reader and help clarify what you're trying to talk about to them. This is helpful when you're righting informational posts. If someone already knows the numbers behind WP and Electric, it's nice for them to skip to the next section of your post and start reading the things they didn't already know.
TL;DR
Always add a TL;DR section when you've made a super long post. Not everyone on the forums has time to waste. Give them a synopsis (preferably at the beginning of a post) and you might just get them to read the whole thing if it sounds good enough to them.
@Rylas
Kill 'em all. Let XP sort 'em out.
Jeez, way to kick her in the face, Rylas.
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TL;DR Always add a TL;DR section when you've made a super long post. Not everyone on the forums has time to waste. Give them a synopsis (preferably at the beginning of a post) and you might just get them to read the whole thing if it sounds good enough to them. |
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Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
"Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L! |
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Originally Posted by Rylas
I don't think anyone here has been trying to stop you from posting. If they've come across as "kicking you in the face" or being rude, that's in large part your perception. I think you might have been applying tone behing their words that wasn't there. I've seen way more *constructive* criticism than anything else.
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I think some of their past posts, some on other threads, made it pretty clear, especially "paranoid", "crazy", "stupid", "ignorant", even monkey and more than that. Not sure what perception is suppose to be developed from stuff like. What would you think? It's constructuive critism? But thier perception of me being rude is correct and mine perception of them being rude is wrong. It figures. Just like one of the things I was talking about. Thier perception of what I say and write is ALWAYS right and my perception is always wrong. I think it's a little grating and rude to suggect that my perception is inferior to anyone elses. I'm sure you wouldnt appreciate someone coming up to you and saying something derogatory and kicking you. Then when you speak on it, someone says "Your perception is inferior to everyone else. They percieved you was looking at them wrong so they kicked you but your perception of them kicking you as uncalled for is wrong. They was trying to help you." How would you react and feel?
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Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
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Da TL;DR (correctsded from TL;DL, obvisly) is lil secmon fo ADD&D havings peops who cant reads em paragraps at 1nce an pferfs summation at spence o' D-tails
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what the heezies is a TL;DL?
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Originally Posted by Hesh
Da TL;DR (correctsded from TL;DL, obvisly) is lil secmon fo ADD&D havings peops who cant reads em paragraps at 1nce an pferfs summation at spence o' D-tails
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Originally Posted by mauk2
Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
"Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L! |
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alright then.
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@Rylas
Kill 'em all. Let XP sort 'em out.
Evil, let's take a look at the very post you are complaining about being "rude and uncalled for".
FYI, there were also a few typos you may wish to fix. I'm horrible at spelling myself, so I always end up catching mine after I've posted... sigh.
You don't see people getting corrected as much as you did, because most of the time, the OPs go back and actually try to fix their errors, instead of getting defensive about something that wasn't rude. You come across as somebody with a huge chip on their shoulder. You see insults where there are none, and you read a lot more rudeness into posts than there actually is.
People pointing out that your post is tough to read on a forum (where we can only determine your message if we can read and understand it) isn't rude. It's not grammar nazi-ish. It's them saying that if you can format your posts better, more people will be able to read and understand it.
Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
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