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Originally Posted by Charnage
So, let me get this straight.
You are reading my past posts, in an attempt to build a straw-man of my mistakes? And then when I ask for help, you simply state "the content of your post". Which seems to say that you find issue with my content. Yet, you make no attempt to show me my mistakes. Just the entire post is wrong? Which makes me wonder how much time you spend reading what other people have written, and to what end? Is this behavior acceptable to you? Would you stop reading everthing I post if I told you it made me uncomfortable? |
I told you that this behavior is one I viewed unacceptable but seems to me that most people on this thread said I was being overly sensative and throwing a fit.
But again, it's ok for people to do it to me but not me to do it?
Once again, now you know how I feel and you reacted the same way, the same way that people said was over sensative, rude, wrong perception, and one even went said it was trolling.
But yeah if it makes you uncomfortable, like some people have been doing to me in the past, I'll stop. See it's no fun when the tables are turned.
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Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
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Well, Xiang Yu suggests that the way to truly learn about someone is to torture them...
Thank you for helping me get to know the real you!
210 50s and still counting!
Why is this thread still open?
Enough is enough folks. Time to move on. Let her have the last word if she want's it, I really don't care.
We're not going to change her mind. She's been backed into a corner like a cat, and even if anyone wanted to help her, she'll take a swipe at you. Even if she was willing to step back, re-evaluate, and come up with a different conclusion about a few of us, I seriously doubt she'd be willing to openly admit it after all this fuss. (Her conclusions about a few of you, I'm not sure I would disagree with.) Stop trying to convince the colorblind they're seeing things wrong!
Continuing to provoke her won't solve anything either. All it does is make a few of you look bad, if not worse.
Evil, if you want to keep thinking I was rude and disrespectful, go for it. I've got big shoulders and a thick skin. (My wife would include a thick skull as well, but that's a different story. ) Maybe in 6 months you'll look back and realize I wasn't. Who knows, maybe a few years down the line you'll kick me in the shins at a Player Summit while yelling at me with invectives. Whatever let's you sleep at night.
I will say this, if you're only interested in putting out information and not concerned about a dialog, you may wish to look into blogging like others have here. You can always put links to your blog in your sig. You'll probably have greater control over who can, or cannot reply to your blogging. Until you find a way to be less defensive about things, you'll probably continue to have a rough time here with the waves you create for yourself. (Even though you don't see that you are creating most of them.) I can tell you're smart enough to see that, if you'd only let yourself.
Everyone else, go home.
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Corrected anyone else posts lately, or is mine still the last one? But seeing how you aint one of the regulars, if you say you wasnt trying to be rude, then you wasnt. |
Originally Posted by Rangle M. Down
Why is this thread still open?
Enough is enough folks. Time to move on. Let her have the last word if she want's it, I really don't care. We're not going to change her mind. She's been backed into a corner like a cat, and even if anyone wanted to help her, she'll take a swipe at you. Even if she was willing to step back, re-evaluate, and come up with a different conclusion about a few of us, I seriously doubt she'd be willing to openly admit it after all this fuss. (Her conclusions about a few of you, I'm not sure I would disagree with.) Stop trying to convince the colorblind they're seeing things wrong! Continuing to provoke her won't solve anything either. All it does is make a few of you look bad, if not worse. Evil, if you want to keep thinking I was rude and disrespectful, go for it. I've got big shoulders and a thick skin. (My wife would include a thick skull as well, but that's a different story. ) Maybe in 6 months you'll look back and realize I wasn't. Who knows, maybe a few years down the line you'll kick me in the shins at a Player Summit while yelling at me with invectives. Whatever let's you sleep at night. I will say this, if you're only interested in putting out information and not concerned about a dialog, you may wish to look into blogging like others have here. You can always put links to your blog in your sig. You'll probably have greater control over who can, or cannot reply to your blogging. Until you find a way to be less defensive about things, you'll probably continue to have a rough time here with the waves you create for yourself. (Even though you don't see that you are creating most of them.) I can tell you're smart enough to see that, if you'd only let yourself. Everyone else, go home. |
My conclusion about you havent change from before you even posted in this thread. I think this is just one of those cases that we crossed the wrong path at the wrong time. I'm sure we'll meet on better terms under better circumstances on other posts, Rangle.
Going to check out that blogging thing. That dont sound like such a bad idea at all actually.
And you;re right, i've been backed into a corner. And like most living creatures, when backed into a corner they will feel there is nothign more to lose and face their attackers regardless of the number of foes. But I think I'm out the corner now and those few trouble makers, I think that situation is being dealt with as we speak. I havent seen them in a bit so maybe it already has in one way or another.
But in six months I probably wont even be thinking of this thread and probably wont go to any summit, not with some of these people aroudn or else I probably will find myself in a jail cell. Then again, I bet 98% of those same people would act meek as hell in person and wouldnt have the nuts or tits to say half the stuff they be saying on here. I wasnt losing sleep either way though but I look forward to seeing you on future posts on much better terms.
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Originally Posted by Evil_Legacy
Wow sounds just like me. Hey, no one pointed out the particular mistakes on my posts. They just said basically what I said. There are mistakes in the post content.
I told you that this behavior is one I viewed unacceptable but seems to me that most people on this thread said I was being overly sensative and throwing a fit. But again, it's ok for people to do it to me but not me to do it? Once again, now you know how I feel and you reacted the same way, the same way that people said was over sensative, rude, wrong perception, and one even went said it was trolling. But yeah if it makes you uncomfortable, like some people have been doing to me in the past, I'll stop. See it's no fun when the tables are turned. |
You're reaction however was or appeared to be overly sensitive. And yes, people reacted to your reaction sometimes in kind, others were harsh because it is the internet and people can be insensitive on the internet.
People didn't retype your thread post pointint out all the errors though, they offered broad advice.
Later you state that since everyone makes mistakes, they're basically being hypocritical in pointing out yours and that anyone who offers advice should take their own.
The difference with these points of view are that others weren't saying "be perfect!", but instead offered advice for your posts to be easier to read.
Charnage later asked for your help with his grammar / spelling errors - basically seeking specific instances.
You only offered broad strokes of "your content". Which implies either the information of Charnage posts was entirely wrong, or his posts contained so many errors that it was difficult to read. Which wasn't the answer he was looking for, he wanted specifics.
When I come into the thread to offer friendly advice, you don't reply with any sense that anything you've done even might be in the slightest way wrong.
Those few people that offered contructive criticism in the beginning, in particular Rangle, you replied to them with derision.
Saying things like "this is a take it or leave it situation" or "this aint english class" "im not getting paid for it". Is completely dismissive toward those that offered in no offensive way pointed out what it was difficult to read what you wrote.
This is a forum for discussion, and it has been stated previously, presentation does matter. Imagine if you're in a room, I walk in, open my mouth to talk, but speak the same language, but at a clipped pace with slang and speed at which you're unfamiliar with.
When I'm done speaking, you reply "I didn't understand that, you spoke too quickly and in a manner that was difficult to comprehend. Next time it might be more helpful if you at least slow dow."
Then I reply by stating, "whatever, you don't get it."
That's how this originally went down. Or at least, that's how it reads.
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contructive criticism- Usually contstructive critisism includes some positive comments, or else it's just critisism and or negative criticism. And as you mentioned that my broad advice which Which implies either the information of Charnage posts was entirely wrong, or his posts contained so many errors that it was difficult to read. Which wasn't the answer he was looking for, he wanted specifics. But I wasnt? I just wanted to hear about only the errors? |
Originally Posted by Tannim222
There are quite a few differences here. First, the original posts that started all this weren't meant to be harsh, critical, yes, harsh or offensive no.
You're reaction however was or appeared to be overly sensitive. And yes, people reacted to your reaction sometimes in kind, others were harsh because it is the internet and people can be insensitive on the internet. People didn't retype your thread post pointint out all the errors though, they offered broad advice. Later you state that since everyone makes mistakes, they're basically being hypocritical in pointing out yours and that anyone who offers advice should take their own. The difference with these points of view are that others weren't saying "be perfect!", but instead offered advice for your posts to be easier to read. Charnage later asked for your help with his grammar / spelling errors - basically seeking specific instances. You only offered broad strokes of "your content". Which implies either the information of Charnage posts was entirely wrong, or his posts contained so many errors that it was difficult to read. Which wasn't the answer he was looking for, he wanted specifics. When I come into the thread to offer friendly advice, you don't reply with any sense that anything you've done even might be in the slightest way wrong. Those few people that offered contructive criticism in the beginning, in particular Rangle, you replied to them with derision. Saying things like "this is a take it or leave it situation" or "this aint english class" "im not getting paid for it". Is completely dismissive toward those that offered in no offensive way pointed out what it was difficult to read what you wrote. This is a forum for discussion, and it has been stated previously, presentation does matter. Imagine if you're in a room, I walk in, open my mouth to talk, but speak the same language, but at a clipped pace with slang and speed at which you're unfamiliar with. When I'm done speaking, you reply "I didn't understand that, you spoke too quickly and in a manner that was difficult to comprehend. Next time it might be more helpful if you at least slow dow." Then I reply by stating, "whatever, you don't get it." That's how this originally went down. Or at least, that's how it reads. |
The posting that have been given came off far off as "construstive." If at least came off as just critisism. Like I mentioned before, if he would of added some things about the post and or saying, "Hey I liked this and that but what can make it better is this and that." Then yeah, construtive criticism. "Hey you have errors in your post." Criticism. That's is how I viewed it to come off as.
And like the example, maybe so but in person there are a lot of varibles and some people will just say forget it if you respond that way. I've seen it happen many times here in real life. Spanish speakers, just the way they talk and some one says soemthing like that, assuming they are that nice about it, and the other person will literally say just that and walk off. It might be the way that they talk and they know not many other ways. Or maybe it was their few times trying out English and as "helpful" as that reply might have been in the person's head, it may have ended up interepreted as "Dang, that's what I get for trying to speak English." And some people that come here and wonder why so many people speak spanish even though they can speak some English is because of those reasons in that example. Here online words is words, there is no pace, there is no saying it again as they words will still be there, and if if needs a read over once more it is possible even without the other person needing to repeat.
And of course it was dismissive. If feel at the time they was not coming off in a friendly, helpful manner, I will be dissmissive. Probably for the first few times. The nafter a while if it continues, then I might get rude. Then after a while I'll turn the tables. People want to come here and criticise my posts, let me point out their errors that they missed will they was busy pointing at mine. There are ways to do things. And maybe a quick read up on Constructive Criticism would help many people here. And that is not to be rude at all. I'm for real. Because what works for one person and is gladly accepted by one person may come off to the other person as beign boorish to another. Just like you said my example with Charnage was different and seems to me like yo uthink it was meant to come off as offensive and rude and harsh. Nope that was not the intentions, only difference was that it was to try out a point. See, you say when given the same advice I was being oversensative, yet, when that same advice is passed on from me, to someone else, it's different story. and what you describe how it came off to Charnage is exactly how I felt it came off to me in the firts post. But at this point it's almost beatign a skelaton of a horse as Rangle already explained he was doing it to be rude and that was the end of it as far as viewing it being rude. Now it's about these loose ends that keep fraying up. I guess I made myself clear now and now people see how I felt. Even you stated, for Charnage, if it is possibel for it to come off to him like that in that manner you described why is it totally impossible for me to view it that way and feel that way? I gave him the name of the threads, just like posting in this thread pointed to the title. I even pointed out it was in the content of the posts which was assumed to be pointed out by the posting of that thread here. So I see no difference between my pointing it and it being pointed out here. Only other difference is that I said it here to him instead of on his thread. Same amount of information in the same way that was presented to me.
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From what I've always understood, constructive criticism never meant that it needed to tell something had good in it, nor does it need to have anything bad in it. What it needs to have in it is a suggestion on how to improve. For example "this and that about your post was bad/good, but it could be better if you did this or that". Bolded the part relevant to being constructive.|
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And see, even in your post there are errors. It happens. But funny, I DONT SEE A SINGLE PERSON jumping on it at all. But they jumped on mine though.
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Originally Posted by DSorrow
From what I've always understood, constructive criticism never meant that it needed to tell something had good in it, nor does it need to have anything bad in it. What it needs to have in it is a suggestion on how to improve. For example "this and that about your post was bad/good, but it could be better if you did this or that". Bolded the part relevant to being constructive.
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Going to have to disagree with this. There is a pace: that is why we have things like commas, line breaks, full stops, chapters, etc. I think it shows good manners towards your audience to make good use of them so that they have an easier time understanding you..
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If you accidentally bumped into someone with your shopping cart while at the mall, would you think it was rude of that person to intentionally bump into you afterwards?. |
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There is a difference between "a single or a few grammar errors" and "actually really hard to read". It just might be the reason. I have seen even in this thread that you are capable of producing posts that are legible so I can't for the life of me understand why you chose to raise hell about this instead of just fixing the OP...
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It's like if I'm walking down the street and drop my bag and you go rush and pick it up and I mace you, with a full can. You'd probably be like what in the hell!. Then how do you know I wasnt robbed in that same manner last week? How do you know I dont have have trust issues. How do you know you didnt startle me? On the other end how would I know you didnt have intentions especially if I didnt call out for help and here's this strange person looking like they trying to snatch my bag. Especially it wouldnt help if five other people near by, some ya was closer to, dropped their bag and you totally ignored them.
Or more direct to this post and thread. How is it I'm expected to understand everyone but none even bother giving a sliver to time to understand me?
That is the basis of help. In order to help anyone, whether it is somone stranded on the road, a patient, co-worker, boss, neighbor, or kid, you must understand how that person needs help. It may not always be in the manner that you first view they need help. The most important thing is to [b] listen[b] and make at least a feeble attempt to undertand the person you're tryign to help as they might be trying to tell you that you are not helping them. Or like how some people open car doors for their female partners. Some ladies, like me, love that and think that is one of the greatest show of chivalry and thoughfulness i nthe world. Others, will take great offense to it as if you are saying they cant get their own door. Are they wrong for thinking that? I dont think so, no more wrong than thinking it's a good thing. And if that person makes it clear that either they dont appreciate the help you have to offer, or dont need help, the proper thing to do would be [b]leave it alone[b] and not get the mindset that "Oh that girl is crazy. I'ma open her car door anyways She is GOING to take my help whether she like it or not." Then of course they person probably goign to get rude with you, when it was best to have just left it alone anyways even if it worked on hundreds of girls. Maybe this particular one isnt into that. If the person cant respect their wishes, why would they turn around and thank you for the "help" if you not trying to understand where they are coming from. Then expect them to understand where you are coming from. Its works two ways or it wont work. As seen here. In the end, help is wasted, and the person trying to "help" probably wont want to help that person again even if they was drowning, and the person the "help" was intended for probably will be defensive everytime you come around thinking you have more "help" to shove down their throat. And that is how it will be unless there is an understanding.
Here, if no one is bothering to understand me, then they wil never get the "help" in the proper way and will continue to come off as rude, brash, boorish, and or insulting because they wont take two secs to listen and see where I'm coming from.
I'm reaching out, and if my hand gets burnt then last time I will do this. I see where people are coming from and Rangle already made his intentions clear now. So no point in bringing that up again, as that is done. Some people on here havent made themselves clear other than appearing to be here just to start trouble. And a few new comers, I dont know what to make of their intentions so I'm playing the wait and see if they will clarify. At the same time, actually read what I'm saying, Understand where I'm coming from. If you cant, then what is the point of having this convo any further besides to just be talking in circles because that is going to be where it goes. Understanding doesnt mean agreeing but dont there is clear lack of understanding when all my views is immediately put down as wrong, being over-sensative, and etc. long list of names. I think I've been called everything but a flower so far it seems. Yet those same people expect me to turn around and reconize that as "help"? If a person bumped into me and startedto say I'm being oversensative and they was just trying to help and I'm wrong for being there. Think I really going to think they bumped into me on accident? Same thing here. If they say soemthing percieved as rude and they say it aint and wonder why I thought it was rude and they immediately dismiss my view as wrong but their's right, think I'm going to think they was being rude on accident? Or better yet just flip it around and if I was offering yet and it came off as rude even though I couldnt see how, and when you tried explaining how it was rude, I said that you are being over-sensative get over it, ya crying whining, making a fuss, your view is wrong, would you think I was being rude on accident or just merely trying to help? I doubt it.
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<snip!> And(do not start sentences with conjunctions) like the example, maybe so(,) but in person there are a lot of varibles (variables) and some people will just say forget it(,) if you respond that way. I've seen it happen many times here in real life. Spanish speakers, just the way they talk(,) and some one says soemthing like that, assuming they are that nice about it, and the other person will literally say just that and walk off. It might be the way that they talk(,) and they know not many other ways. Or maybe it was their few times trying out English and as "helpful" as that reply might have been in the person's head, it may have ended up interepreted as "Dang, that's what I get for trying to speak English." And some people that come here and wonder why so many people speak spanish, (the comma is necessary as your sentence had a separate clause) even though they can speak some English is because of those reasons in that example. Here online words is (this should be are not is) words, there is no pace, there is no saying it again as they (this should be their not they) words will still be there, and if if (should be it not if) needs a (should read as: to be, not a) read over once more it is possible even without the other person needing to repeat. And (do not start with conjunctions) of course it was dismissive. If feel at the time they was not coming off in a friendly, helpful(,) manner, I will be dissmissive (dismissive). Probably for the first few times. (this isn't a complete thought not sure why you made it a sentence) The nafter a while(,) if it continues, then I might get rude. Then after a while(,) I'll turn the tables. People want to come here and criticise my posts, let me point out their errors(,) that they missed(,) will (while) they was (were) busy pointing at mine. There are ways to do things. And (don't start a sentence with a conjunction) maybe a quick read up on Constructive Criticism would help many people here. And that is not to be rude at all.(Not a complete thought here) I'm for real. (this is not a complete thought, not a sentence) Because what works for one person(,) and is gladly accepted by one person(,) may come off to the other person as beign (being) boorish (not a word near as I can tell) to another. Just like you said my example with Charnage was different(,) and seems to me like yo uthink it was meant to come off as offensive(,) and rude(,) and harsh. Nope (No) that was not the intentions, (the)only difference was that it was to try out a point. (What are you trying to say here...?) See, you say(,) when given the same advice(,) I was being oversensative (oversensitive), yet, when that same advice is passed on from me, to someone else, it's a different story. and what you describe how it came off to Charnage is exactly how I felt it came off to me in the firts post. But at this point(,) it's almost beatign a skelaton of a horse. as Rangle already explained he was doing it to be rude(,) and that was the end of it(.) (A)s far as viewing it being rude. Now it's about these loose ends that keep fraying up. I guess I made myself clear now, and now people see how I felt. Even you stated, for Charnage, if it is possibel for it to come off to him like that(,) in that manner you described why is it totally impossible for me to view it that way(,) and feel that way? I gave him the name of the threads, just like posting in this thread(,) pointed to the title. I even pointed out it was in the content of the posts which was assumed to be pointed out by the posting of that thread here. So(,) I see no difference between my pointing it(,) and it being pointed out here. (The)Only other difference is that I said it here to him(,) instead of on his thread. Same amount of information in the same way that was presented to me. |
The above behavior is referred to as text walling.
Your mistakes have been corrected in bold or questioned as to intent. I read and write quite well, in fact I have poetry that has been published on several occasions, and even I have issues making sense of what you write. Out of curiousity...is English not your first language? I am just curious as your grammar and spelling are about on par with what I have seen from people who learned the English language in Mexico and didn't really pay much attention. Something on par with people who take spanish in high school in this country (for the most part).
BTW: you should learn where to put commas...
Edit #2 - Everytime I think I am done, I read over it again and find more errors...it's like a scarf coming out of a clown's sleeve, it never stops...
Edit #3 - ok I don't care if there's anymore errors, it's late and I am done correcting it. You get the point!
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Good. you highlighted all the mistakes. Done it to anyone else lately? According to your post history as I recall, not lately. Or am I just your "special" case? If so, just in case I didnt make myself clear, if you are here to help by all means. If you are here to single me out from thread to thread, I prefer you not to do that. If this is your way of "helping", then that is the part I'm confused about because I dont see it. Even with this post, you havent said anything about the the content. You just made highlights of the mistakes. So how, from your point of view if I was you, here to just highlight the mistakes in your post, shall I take this? As help? I'm not seeing it. Would you see it as help or just someone else here to start trouble? |
Originally Posted by planet_J
Just to make things abundantly clear...as it seems you are indeed quite a bit confused...
The above behavior is referred to as text walling. Your mistakes have been corrected in bold or questioned as to intent. I read and write quite well, in fact I have poetry that has been published on several occasions, and even I have issues making sense of what you write. Out of curiousity...is English not your first language? I am just curious as your grammar and spelling are about on par with what I have seen from people who learned the English language in Mexico and didn't really pay much attention. Something on par with people who take spanish in this country for the most part. |
So just in case I still wasnt clear. Leave it be.
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Point of order here. I explained that I wasn't doing it to be rude. Back to your regularly scheduled caterwauling.
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But at this point it's almost beatign a skelaton of a horse as Rangle already explained he was doing it to be rude and that was the end of it as far as viewing it being rude.
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Point of order here. I explained that I wasn't doing it to be rude. Back to your regularly scheduled caterwauling.
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really shouldnt be doing it in the first place. I bet most of of your posts are not exactly perfect either. You shouldnt cared in the first place. Like I said if this is your version of help, it's not welcomed here. You havent helped anything on most of my threads besides showing up to start mess. I havea feeling you are not doing this to help at all just to be an ****.
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Just to make things abundantly clear...as it seems you are indeed quite a bit confused...
The above behavior is referred to as text walling. Your mistakes have been corrected in bold or questioned as to intent. I read and write quite well, in fact I have poetry that has been published on several occasions, and even I have issues making sense of what you write. Out of curiousity...is English not your first language? I am just curious as your grammar and spelling are about on par with what I have seen from people who learned the English language in Mexico and didn't really pay much attention. Something on par with people who take spanish in high school in this country (for the most part). BTW: you should learn where to put commas... Edit #2 - Everytime I think I am done, I read over it again and find more errors...it's like a scarf coming out of a clown's sleeve, it never stops... Edit #3 - ok I don't care if there's anymore errors, it's late and I am done correcting it. You get the point! |
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Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
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I beg to differ, I have attempted to assist you on multiple occasions and all you do is lash out and complain about people trying to throw you a life line while you drown in the english language and others suffer for it.|
Originally Posted by Evil_Legacy
Good. you highlighted all the mistakes. Done it to anyone else lately? According to your post history as I recall, not lately. Or am I just your "special" case? If so, just in case I didnt make myself clear, if you are here to help by all means. If you are here to single me out from thread to thread, I prefer you not to do that. If this is your way of "helping", then that is the part I'm confused about because I dont see it. I see you as on other threads just causing trouble nothing more. I think you been on at least 4 of my threads and not a single time have you said anythign relevant to the thread topic. Even with this post, you havent said anything about the the content. You just made highlights of the mistakes. So how, from your point of view if I was you, here to just highlight the mistakes in your post, shall I take this? As help? I'm not seeing it. Would you see it as help or just someone else here to start trouble?
So just in case I still wasnt clear. Leave it be. This is the 4th thread you followed me to with nothing really to add is something I call a pattern starting to develop and not a good one. |
I think you will find people trying to help you in here are typically considered the most helpful, and well liked members of this community, almost without reproach. So your issues here are founded in your own problems.
The sooner you accept that, the better off the entire community will be for it.
This is the equivalent of what we are trying to sort through in your posts...just so you can see it from someone else:
"I se u goin nto threds n stuf an yo is all they was is were wit my threds n say bads tuff. N I says everbudy was trollin caus I not good speler n evrybuddy don lik i caint spell er tipe gooder causei not interesetede in learnin fro mcritisism cause tahts for fools!"
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You aint reach out and to anyone. All you been was plain rude just like you are being now.
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Originally Posted by planet_J
I beg to differ, I have attempted to assist you on multiple occasions and all you do is lash out and complain about people trying to throw you a life line while you drown in the english language and others suffer for it.
I think you will find people trying to help you in here are typically considered the most helpful, and well liked members of this community, almost without reproach. So your issues here are founded in your own problems. The sooner you accept that, the better off the entire community will be for it. This is the equivalent of what we are trying to sort through in your posts...just so you can see it from someone else: "I se u goin nto threds n stuf an yo is all they was is were wit my threds n say bads tuff. N I says everbudy was trollin caus I not good speler n evrybuddy don lik i caint spell er tipe gooder causei not interesetede in learnin fro mcritisism cause tahts for fools!" |
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Originally Posted by mauk2
Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
"Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L! |
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Ironically it seems it is most typically you reading my threads and posting...how do you seem to want to explain that? I typically ignore the less witty banter on here anyway...but I am afraid I had to step in when you were trying to point out mistakes that were extremely minor compared to your felonies against the english language...|
Originally Posted by Evil_Legacy
really shouldnt be doing it in the first place. I bet most of of your posts are not exactly perfect either. You shouldnt cared in the first place. Like I said if this is your version of help, it's not welcomed here. You havent helped anything on most of my threads besides showing up to start mess. I havea feeling you are not doing this to help at all just to be an ****.
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They might get probation for their offenses, yours deserve something on the order of a refund for your education costs...it seems you gained little from it anyway.
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What? what are you trying to say?
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Originally Posted by Evil_Legacy
You aint reach out and to anyone. All you been was plain rude just like you are being now.
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More insults I see. Anyways, if that is the best you can do and this is the extent of your "help" then Good day to you and good bye. I know what you are trying to do and this time you wont get a rise out of me. Look at the thread listings and my threads and you'll see it'you mostly coming to my threads and posting stuff. Anyways though, I guess this convo is ending. If you came with something better than insults, maybe we'd have something to talk about. But seeing that you dont, there is nothing here. See ya.
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Originally Posted by planet_J
Ironically it seems it is most typically you reading my threads and posting...how do you seem to want to explain that? I typically ignore the less witty banter on here anyway...but I am afraid I had to step in when you were trying to point out mistakes that were extremely minor compared to your felonies against the english language...
They might get probation for their offenses, yours deserve something on the order of a refund for your education costs...it seems you gained little from it anyway. |
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Originally Posted by mauk2
Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
"Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L! |
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I am insulting you by asking what you were trying to say? So what would not be an insult in your eyes?
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Originally Posted by Evil_Legacy
More insults I see. Anyways, if that is the best you can do and this is the extent of your "help" then Good day to you and good bye. I know what you are trying to do and this time you wont get a rise out of me. Look at the thread listings and my threads and you'll see it'you mostly coming to my threads and posting stuff. Anyways though, I guess this convo is ending. If you came with something better than insults, maybe we'd have something to talk about. But seeing that you dont, there is nothing here. See ya.
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You know, I think people really are being rather reasonable in this thread. Then again, as an army officer I have seen what abuse really means, and I do have a thick skin, so my perspective may be a bit twisted.
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As for that, you aren't expected to completely understand everyone, but I think the main problem here is that most people can't and don't want to try to understand you because of the excessive amount of work involved, which in turn causes you to react VERY defensively. From my training and experience I know that if I don't bother taking the time to make my orders (or in the case of these boards, my post) clear enough to be understood the first time, I can't expect anyone to take the time to run through them again and again to try and understand.| How is it I'm expected to understand everyone but none even bother giving a sliver to time to understand me? |
Reading through your own texts helps a lot as does correcting errors you've made. People in general are lazy (I know I am), and don't bother correcting stuff unless it really needs to be fixed. If you pay attention to what you're writing it is easy to tell apart trolls and people who genuinely can't understand you.
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As an officer I'm sure you wouldn’t put up with people acting like this towards you if they don’t understand something. From my experience in RL, if people don’t understand something, they simply asked. If people said half the stuff to most people like they did on this post, some people probably would have put them in the hospital long time ago. Others probably would have given them the pink slip, while others probably would brush them off and if they approached again, probably would knock them on their butt. Or in my case if they kept pushing the issue after I dismiss it and became aggressive with it, I'd mace the crap out of them then call the police. Online, it's different it seems. Online, people seem to get a lot bolder, hiding behind the screen smug knowing they can’t be touched. |
Originally Posted by DSorrow
You know, I think people really are being rather reasonable in this thread. Then again, as an army officer I have seen what abuse really means, and I do have a thick skin, so my perspective may be a bit twisted.
As for that, you aren't expected to completely understand everyone, but I think the main problem here is that most people can't and don't want to try to understand you because of the excessive amount of work involved, which in turn causes you to react VERY defensively. From my training and experience I know that if I don't bother taking the time to make my orders (or in the case of these boards, my post) clear enough to be understood the first time, I can't expect anyone to take the time to run through them again and again to try and understand. Reading through your own texts helps a lot as does correcting errors you've made. People in general are lazy (I know I am), and don't bother correcting stuff unless it really needs to be fixed. If you pay attention to what you're writing it is easy to tell apart trolls and people who genuinely can't understand you. |
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Originally Posted by mauk2
Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
"Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L! |
I do notice that your grammar and spelling have improved through this thread, with the exception of a few emotional rants. You're even using line breaks and clear paragraphs.
I'm glad to see we've helped you understand the importance of presentation.
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I feel bad about my posts last night and want to apologize.
As I had read the entire thread before posting, I was already aware the OP was unable to see (or at least, unable to admit) how her own behavior was causing the problem, so I don't know why I thought anything I said could make the situation better.
Then, after posting the suggestion that you never let them see they made you angry, I let myself post more even as I became more and more irritated by the OPs belligerent behavior, and began trying to provoke a specific reaction. And as the OP has already proven, if you present your message badly, it will never convey your meaning.
However, after sleeping on it, I realized the analogy of a cat backed into a corner was actually perfect. A feral cat who doesn't understand that the people approaching it are really trying to help it, and is just freaking out, lashing out with tooth and claw at everyone it sees. And in that situation, more people joining in to help the terrified wild thing never make it better.
So, I apologize for letting my own irritation get the best of me. That's not who I am or how I prefer to present myself. And no matter my opinion of the OPs behavior, I am not proud of my own behavior.
So, I do apologize for the way I posted last night. It was not helpful, it was not kind, and the truth was lost in the way I chose to present it.
...and leave with this last bit of advice (that I already know no one's going to take). To the OP, step away and try to calm down. To everyone else: she is not capable of hearing you. She's proven already that anything and everything you say will be taken as a personal insult. Actually... it's the same advice to you: Step away and calm down.
I am out of this thread.
Peace.
So, let me get this straight.
You are reading my past posts, in an attempt to build a straw-man of my mistakes?
And then when I ask for help, you simply state "the content of your post".
Which seems to say that you find issue with my content.
Yet, you make no attempt to show me my mistakes. Just the entire post is wrong?
Which makes me wonder how much time you spend reading what other people have written, and to what end?
Is this behavior acceptable to you?
Would you stop reading everthing I post if I told you it made me uncomfortable?
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