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Originally Posted by Evil_Legacy
Well there is always somone out there that think anything is too long. Hell I bet if I made a post that said, "uggg and rawr" some one would say "that is too long. Can you shorten it to just 'ug'?"
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| From what I experienced on this forum and percieved, there is no way to please everyone. |
Look, not everyone will be pleased with everything you write, but it doesn't mean you have to give up on posting good content that contributes to the forums. You probably had some good insights in your OP, but they're wasted if you not concerned with making them easy to read for the common forumite.
@Rylas
Kill 'em all. Let XP sort 'em out.
[QUOTE=Rylas;4346304]TL;DR (It's R, not L) is for those really long posts. Like your OP. If you lead off with a TL;DR it gives people an idea of what's going to be discussed and might entice them to read the full thing.
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I'm not doing it for the popularity or to see how many responses I get. While I prefer that it stays on topic, the show will move on either way in the next thread and so on. I dont think any thread in recent times that I made ever had more than half if even a quarter of it about the actual topic. And they was better formatted and shorter for that matter. So like I mentioned earlier people weill find an excuse to not bother with the topic. Here is just so happen to be formatting. The others, something else and so on. So more than likely if I was looking for popularity, I would be wasting my time instead of focusing on the information. And some that are very well written even in the format you mentioned, have not a single response. So people either will read it or not regardless of format, perfection of the material and so on. There are some people that follow me thread to thread just looking for trouble. Just look at past threads where it got dereailed and soon after you'll see the same people over and over again. |
Originally Posted by Rylas
No, you won't please anyone. But you can avoid wasting your time and create posts that are easily read and capable of bringing up discussions from them. Yeah, you've managed to get 6 pages of discussion going now, but not even half a page was based on what you actually wrote. Is that what you want to see?
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Look, not everyone will be pleased with everything you write, but it doesn't mean you have to give up on posting good content that contributes to the forums. You probably had some good insights in your OP, but they're wasted if you not concerned with making them easy to read for the common forumite.
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Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
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Originally Posted by Evil_Legacy
Information is never wasted.
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Where to now?
Check out all my guides and fiction pieces on my blog.
The MFing Warshade | The Last Rule of Tanking | The Got Dam Mastermind
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don'T attempt to read tHis mEssaGe, And believe Me, it is not a codE.
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Yes, you've made it clear your not looking to be liked. What with your overreaction and self-martyrdom. Building this type of reputation will also lead less people to reading or caring about anything you have to say. If your experience with these forums has been consistently like this, you have to stop and ask whether it's really these shadow assassins killing your threads, or yourself. |
Originally Posted by Evil_Legacy
I'm not doing it for the popularity or to see how many responses I get.
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And believe it or not, not many people on these forums really have the time to hunt down every comment and thread you make.
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@Rylas
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Right, again, my reaction is over reaction. And this isnt self-martydom. But if that is what you really believe then that is what you believe. |
Originally Posted by Rylas
Yes, you've made it clear your not looking to be liked. What with your overreaction and self-martyrdom. Building this type of reputation will also lead less people to reading or caring about anything you have to say. If your experience with these forums has been consistently like this, you have to stop and ask whether it's really these shadow assassins killing your threads, or yourself. .
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And believe it or not, not many people on these forums really have the time to hunt down every comment and thread you make.
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If you believe that, then it's obvious you find yourself above anyone's offered help. Good luck with that.
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Well guess you got your mind made up about me, and of course, you believe you percecption of it is perfectly right and my perception of the situation is wrong. no middle ground so I guess we are done here see you in another thread. bye.
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Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
"Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L! |
Evil_Legacy, if it helps, I've read through this thread and having not previously posted here, I hope that I can offer a fresh perspective.
Your posts to tend to contain a number of gramatical errors ranging from spelling, word choice, to phrasing and at times sentence structure. Personally, I tend to overlook such things on an internet forum as the person posting may not be a native speaker of the language posted. Or their poorer standard of writing may be influenced by any number of factors.
As such, try not to take insult from anyone's statements with regards to your writing skills. If, however, you believe yourself capable of improving, may I suggest you do a couple of things before finalyzing your post.
First, use line breaks at least after every several sentences. While in writing a paragraph is typical a minum of three sentences, forum posting is more free form. A single sentence followed by a line break and two sentences is okay.
Second, use the Preview Post button and proof read what you've written. A block of text is difficult enough to read through, if it contains multiple errors within that block, it's even harder to read, and you may lose your audience.
You can also use any number of programs to write your post in first, use a spell checker, clean up some errors, copy and paste into your forum post.
With regards to the sense that multiple people were insulting you about the same subject:
You have a right to feel how you feel, but that doesn't always mean how you feel is right. If you get upset at something someone says to you in a forum post (or any conversation), allow yourself time to cool off, or if your not mad or upset, then instead of becoming defensive, offer some grace toward your perceived offenders.
Perhaps they didn't intend to offend you and any offense on their part was inadvertant. If so, a little grace and forgiveness on your part can go a long way to forge positive interactions with others intead of what amounted to in this instance, more of the same.
Also, in a forum, or any conversation, if multiple people make similar statements directed toward you in an attempt to be helpful, even if it comes off as harsh criticism, and you feel as if you're in the "right" and their in the "wrong", look for the common denominator in the discussion.
If multiple people say the sky is blue, and you say its teal, and you're the only saying that, perhaps there may be some merit in listening to the advice from multiple sources and re-evaluate your position.
In the end, if you want people to be able to read what you've written particularly on a forum, make sure its as easy to read as possible.
If people attack the information you've posted, analyze what information they provide, and if what they have is in error, politely post why and how its wrong and reiterate how your information is correct.
However, if what they've provided proves to be of merit, thank them and apply it.
Try to avoid getting involved with those who attack you personally. Insults that attack your person are against the forum rules, and "most" of the time that doesn't happen. If it does, disregard the poster, place them on ignore, and / or flag the post for a moderator.
I hope this helps.
I think I will save this thread as an example of how NOT to behave on the internet.
One quick piece of advice (which I already know you're not gonna take, but.. hey... I can try): Never let them see they made you mad.
EDIT: And no one actually cares that you're a girl. "He" and "him" ARE gender neutral when gender is unknown. A simple, "Oh, and by the way, I'm a girl," is adequate.
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I serious cant tell if they are trying to be helpful. The wya they come off compared to how they approach others are night and day. And this aint about the sky being blue and I'm saying it's teal. It's more saying "I'm feeling blue today" and they turning around and saying "no, you're feeling chipper and happy!" Maybe they still trying to be helpful but it's not helpful to dismiss what I see, percieve, expereince as always being automatically wrong yet I'm suppose to hold their view perspective and experiences on a high pedatstal. The thing is what they fail to realize that how I view things, percieve and expereience things may be different then most and just because three people, who may not share that particular expereince says, "No! that's not how I expereinced it so your experience is wrong!" Then when I say no my experience is not wrong, they get a fit and say "Well I was only trying to help and you throw it in my face." |
Originally Posted by Tannim222
Evil_Legacy, if it helps, I've read through this thread and having not previously posted here, I hope that I can offer a fresh perspective.
Your posts to tend to contain a number of gramatical errors ranging from spelling, word choice, to phrasing and at times sentence structure. Personally, I tend to overlook such things on an internet forum as the person posting may not be a native speaker of the language posted. Or their poorer standard of writing may be influenced by any number of factors. As such, try not to take insult from anyone's statements with regards to your writing skills. If, however, you believe yourself capable of improving, may I suggest you do a couple of things before finalyzing your post. First, use line breaks at least after every several sentences. While in writing a paragraph is typical a minum of three sentences, forum posting is more free form. A single sentence followed by a line break and two sentences is okay. Second, use the Preview Post button and proof read what you've written. A block of text is difficult enough to read through, if it contains multiple errors within that block, it's even harder to read, and you may lose your audience. You can also use any number of programs to write your post in first, use a spell checker, clean up some errors, copy and paste into your forum post. With regards to the sense that multiple people were insulting you about the same subject: You have a right to feel how you feel, but that doesn't always mean how you feel is right. If you get upset at something someone says to you in a forum post (or any conversation), allow yourself time to cool off, or if your not mad or upset, then instead of becoming defensive, offer some grace toward your perceived offenders. Perhaps they didn't intend to offend you and any offense on their part was inadvertant. If so, a little grace and forgiveness on your part can go a long way to forge positive interactions with others intead of what amounted to in this instance, more of the same. Also, in a forum, or any conversation, if multiple people make similar statements directed toward you in an attempt to be helpful, even if it comes off as harsh criticism, and you feel as if you're in the "right" and their in the "wrong", look for the common denominator in the discussion. If multiple people say the sky is blue, and you say its teal, and you're the only saying that, perhaps there may be some merit in listening to the advice from multiple sources and re-evaluate your position. In the end, if you want people to be able to read what you've written particularly on a forum, make sure its as easy to read as possible. If people attack the information you've posted, analyze what information they provide, and if what they have is in error, politely post why and how its wrong and reiterate how your information is correct. However, if what they've provided proves to be of merit, thank them and apply it. Try to avoid getting involved with those who attack you personally. Insults that attack your person are against the forum rules, and "most" of the time that doesn't happen. If it does, disregard the poster, place them on ignore, and / or flag the post for a moderator. I hope this helps. |
What makes their view, perception, experience, feelings, right and my automaticlly wrong because three or even four didnt expereince it? Maybe my perception isnt right all the time, but who is. That is what is the buggered up part about this whole nonsense. I'm expected to take their view and shoot my own view, a view that I know and I seen, compared to one I can only see the words, and go with it especially when these people give not a single regard not once or even an attempt to even analyze my view or even try to see where I'm coming from outside that it's different from theirs so it's wrong but I'm suppose to take theirs to heart and cherish it.
And with spelling like i said, there isnt many posts on here without grammatical errors. Yet, I dont see anyone one thse posters on here correcting them one by one. But they jump on mine like flies on crap. I notice things like that. And still, some of them aint bothered to go around correcting any other post since this thread on spelling an grammar but since they chose mine, I'm suppose to bow down? Riiight. I wouldnt mind it so much if it was actually a common happening. But that is like a professor saying nothing for weeks about people sleeping during his class but the one day you doze off he/she is on ya case. Then next day, says nothing to the people that doze off again. Anybody would be like "wtf". Same concept here.
But I see what you are saying. And see, even in your post there are errors. It happens. But funny, I DONT SEE A SINGLE PERSON jumping on it at all. But they jumped on mine though. It happens but certain people act like I cant make a mistake. But look, no comments on your errors. Yeah, well better get to work on that ignore list. looks like it might get bigger.
And about that late comer about gender thing. I have been saying "oh by the way I'ma girl." but after about the hundred time it got old so someone suggested adding it to the sig, which I did. Now I'm not sure if you was just trying to be helpful or funny or what not. Even though not sure how you conveniently caught the problem but missed the solution, but I'ma assume you was trying to be helpful and the problem already been solved.
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Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
"Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L! |
I have a question....
What is the difference between E_L and GG?
Both seem to like to pad their thread count...
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I have a question....
What is the difference between E_L and GG? Both seem to like to pad their thread count... |
Also, GG may have better grammar, but the lack of more than five words in a post makes it difficult to be sure.
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padding thread count. lol. that's funny right there when you have people with over 400 one word posts on those posts like "first word that comes to mind" or "pick one choose three." There are quite easy wand more simple ways to pad thread count.
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I have a question....
What is the difference between E_L and GG? Both seem to like to pad their thread count... |
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Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
"Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L! |
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And since you want to talk about grammar and spelling, you in the past have many many yourself. In the thread that is named, Ressubed to VIP, account accidentally lapsed. Now Im VIP again but all slots locked, one of your post have two grammar mistakes. |
Originally Posted by Sooner
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Also, GG may have better grammar, but the lack of more than five words in a post makes it difficult to be sure. |
In another random post that I came across named, Re: Discussion: Introducing Tweet Code Thursdays! Your post have two grammar mistakes and one spelling mistake. And both of these are very short posts.
Now in a thread that you started with a good length, there was bunch of grammar and spelling mistakes in it. The one I'm refering to is named Sooner Nation-Fiction.
So it might be best that you check your own stuff before poking fun at other people's mistakes. In a sec I can have the exact number of mistakes in that post if you like. But really, again, not a single post about those mistakes and there are a bunch there.
Hey just returning the kind of help that people give me. I expect a thanks and a kiss of the foot like they expect out of me for pointing out the mistakes.
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Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
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There are quite easy wand more simple ways to pad thread count.
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Can you clarify this sentence? I have trouble understanding the full meaning. And before I respond, I would like to understand you completely.
Specifically..what is this wand you speak of? A wand of wonder?
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Can you clarify this sentence? I have trouble understanding the full meaning. And before I respond, I would like to understand you completely.
Specifically..what is this wand you speak of? A wand of wonder? |
But you might want to check your own grammar and spelling on posts like "TOP TEN THINGS TO NOT DO ON A iTRIAL". for example. It's kind of hard to read with them mistakes, if I was to use your logic.
Or even your post on "Re: Crab Spider build challenge - with prize!" could use a little editing. There are spelling and grammar mistakes there too.
Remember, just trying to help people out like they "helped" me. I expect a thank you and foot kiss from you too. According to some posters here, that is what is required in return when someone point out the mistakes in your posts.
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Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
"Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L! |
I am in awe and wonder. I have errors in a post? Really? Could you show me which ones they are? Or are you to busy at the moment?
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My eyes will never be the same again.
The hard things I can do--- The impossible just take a little bit longer.
If numbers are so much more important than a teammate who is fun to play with, forget about the game altogether and go play with a calculator instead. -Claws and Effect-
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I am in awe and wonder. I have errors in a post? Really? Could you show me which ones they are? Or are you to busy at the moment?
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Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
"Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L! |
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Ok, sweetheart... just settle it down. Have a nice cup of tea or maybe some wine (if you're old enough to drink), sit down, and just think some happy thoughts. Puppies, maybe. Or unicorns. Or David Beckham in an underwear ad. Ya know.. whatever makes you happy. |
Originally Posted by Evil_Legacy
And since you want to talk about grammar and spelling, you in the past have many many yourself. In the thread that is named, Ressubed to VIP, account accidentally lapsed. Now Im VIP again but all slots locked, one of your post have two grammar mistakes.
blah blah blah Hey just returning the kind of help that people give me. I expect a thanks and a kiss of the foot like they expect out of me for pointing out the mistakes. |
You have become a cautionary tale, as far as I'm concerned. You are now the troll in your own thread just attacking who ever or whatever moves or is shiny.
Seriously, darlin... you let the internet know they can make you mad or hurt your feelings and you are just asking for constant trouble. Personally, I don't like constantly fighting in every thread I'm in. If you do, then being overly reactionary and hypersensitive is exactly the right way to go about it.
Love,
Sooner
So..the grammar mistakes are in the titles...or the content....?
Can you help me correct them?
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Wait now see this is what I was talking about. It's ok that people point out my mistakes, and when I say something, I'm the one that is rude. Now, that I point out your mistakes, I'm a troll. That's a little hypocritical I think. My my point is proven. It's ok for everyone else but it's problem when I do it. Go figure. Now you know how I feel. You apparently dont like people pointing out your errors, and you went as far as calling me a troll for it. Maybe we on the same page and this nonsense will stop.
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Ok, sweetheart... just settle it down. Have a nice cup of tea or maybe some wine (if you're old enough to drink), sit down, and just think some happy thoughts. Puppies, maybe. Or unicorns. Or David Beckham in an underwear ad. Ya know.. whatever makes you happy.
You have become a cautionary tale, as far as I'm concerned. You are now the troll in your own thread just attacking who ever or whatever moves or is shiny. Seriously, darlin... you let the internet know they can make you mad or hurt your feelings and you are just asking for constant trouble. Personally, I don't like constantly fighting in every thread I'm in. If you do, then being overly reactionary and hypersensitive is exactly the right way to go about it. Love, Sooner |
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Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
"Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L! |
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Originally Posted by Charnage
So..the grammar mistakes are in the titles...or the content....?
Can you help me correct them? |
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Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
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Here's the thing, sweetie... I never threw a little tantrum when you pointed out that you found mistakes... cause, ya know... humans sometimes make mistakes. You said you found mistakes, I shrugged and moved on. I didn't cry, rant, sulk, stomp my foot, accuse you of stalking poor little helpless me... or any of those things. |
Originally Posted by Evil_Legacy
Wait now see this is what I was talking about. It's ok that people point out my mistakes, and when I say something, I'm the one that is rude. Now, that I point out your mistakes, I'm a troll. That's a little hypocritical I think. But have just proven my point throughtly. It's ok for everyone else but it's problem when I do it. Go figure. Now you know how I feel. You apparently dont like people pointing out your errors, and you went as far as calling me a troll for it. Maybe we on the same page and this nonsense will stop.
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You threw a little hissy fit with your lacy skirts all up over your head and your make up getting all splotchy and tried to pull this "poor pitiful widdle me" act as if any of us even knew who you were before you tossed your giant wall of text at us.
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Well first of all I didnt toss anything at anyone. I wrote something, and stuff was tossed at me. And yes, there are some people stalking but that situation is being delt with. |
Originally Posted by Sooner
Here's the thing, sweetie... I never threw a little tantrum when you pointed out that you found mistakes... cause, ya know... humans sometimes make mistakes. You said you found mistakes, I shrugged and moved on. I didn't cry, rant, sulk, stomp my foot, accuse you of stalking poor little helpless me... or any of those things.
You threw a little hissy fit with your lacy skirts all up over your head and your make up getting all splotchy and tried to pull this "poor pitiful widdle me" act as if any of us even knew who you were before you tossed your giant wall of text at us. |
And if humans make mistakes, what was the big deal about my mistakes? Oh right, it's no big deal because they wasnt YOUR mistakes. And when I did point out your mistakes, no you didnt just shrug and moved on. You threw the troll word out there. So yea, I see how your mindset is. You are allowed to point out other people's mistakes but when someone points out yours, all of a sudden they are a troll. Guess me and you are done here. Your replies speak for itself.
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Evil_Legacy became one of my favorite posters with two words.
"Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L! |
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Well first of all I didnt toss anything at anyone. I wrote something, and stuff was tossed at me. And yes, there are some people stalking but that situation is being delt with.
And if humans make mistakes, what was the big deal about my mistakes? Oh right, it's no big deal because they wasnt YOUR mistakes. And when I did point out your mistakes, no you didnt just shrug and moved on. You threw the troll word out there. So yea, I see how your mindset is. You are allowed to point out other people's mistakes but when someone points out yours, all of a sudden they are a troll. Guess me and you are done here. Your replies speak for itself. |
We can be done here. I think that's best.
Oh, I'll keep READING cause this thread is pure comedy gold...
Some of those TL;DL wouldnt read it anyways, or find some other reason to not read it.
From what I experienced on this forum and percieved, there is no way to please everyone. Even if you gave them everything in the world they still would not be pleased. So why bother with them, bending backwards twice over for them if they wont even give you a simple nod? Or change just so they can find something else about it to complain about?
In short my writings is not for everyone just as there are many posts out there that are not for me. I dont go on there saying, "hey change this change that so I can read it or demanding they should of done it this way or that way." They probably would say the same thing I said. "maybe it wasnt meant for you to read this post." And no one on here would say they are being rude about it.
-Female Player-
"Kick Rocks."
I laffed so hard.