So the DFB is an abomination now? (sarcasm)

Like all the content in CoH, DFB is optional. If you don't like it, don't do it.

Personally, I do like it, not only because it allows me to get a feel for a character and whether or not I'm going to like it fairly quickly, but in a game that's better enjoyed in teams (on the whole) it's the one where people are always announcing teams that run it, even on servers with a relatively low population.

I run DFB on my lower characters once or twice for the temp powers and sometimes just to get to the next level. It's fun and I like it fine.

My only problem with it is the constant chatter in global and the LFG chat for the stupid thing. Some nights it drives me crazy. I've removed LFG from the chat box on many characters now.

The thing that gets me is that the pace is so much faster than many task forces that I've had newer players quit the team after the first mission or two of a TF after saying they weren't getting XP fast enough. I understand that with how fast a team can move through DfB that the XP rate is really good, but what I don't understand is how characters in their 30s can do them over and over and over again instead of stuff at their own level. For me the funnest powers in the game come later on, why would you want to ONLY play something where you can't even use those?

eh ..... DFB has its uses, mostly 1-15ish or the occasional 'one quick level to get into a new SO tier'

other then that, eh ..... using it solely to PL is kinda missing the point of the game kinda like, every kinda PL

I like running the the DFB once or twice per character simply to grab the acc and recovery buff. I sometimes find myself a bit shy of lvl 10 to continue Twinshot's arc so that seems to be a good time to do it for me. But typically I don't do it more often than that per character.

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Originally Posted by bpphantom But... SHARDS!? Really? People still use those things?

Shards are still a decent way to get your first and second tier alpha's done... even 3rd tier if you do a WST. It lets you save your threads for other stuff.

If I bother to run DfB at all, it is never more than once per character.

And while the manner of their advice doesn't sound the best (but grain of salt on the source) trying to guide new players to actually experience the game instead of some instantly learning to press a fast forward button is no where near making the characters in the OP idiots.

I saw that exchange you mentioned also. I have run DFB on a character in the 42 to 46 lvl range I founf it hard to find teams late at night but seemed to allways find a DFB going.

with 7 years of play under my belt I love the DFB.

It spares me having to bother friends to catch a PL up to a 'fun' level, which is what I did in the "good old days".

And I like the new lowbie stuff- it's fun & reasonably efficient, but with as many alts as I create even good story content gets old fast.


If I were dictator I'd rig it so every new account had to "unlock" it by getting to XX level at least once- as with the prior wave of MA farms, it shouldn't be the be all end all of the low level game and new players in particular would benefit from getting some missions in before they got the Fast Forward button.

But it's a great resource for people who've played the low level game to death.

My only issue is when I get players that leveled up in DFB on my team in high level content that have no idea what their powers actually DO.

You know, because they've never used a power available beyond level 10 before.

A lot of people level up in it and are perfectly competent players, but just as many have learned absolutely nothing about the game and have terribly built characters.

I can usually tell a DFB leveled character, especially if it is a melee character. All the attacks, 3 or more travel powers, and fewer than 3 powers from their secondary means it is a safe bet it was leveled in DFB. The sad part is people with characters like that usually don't understand WHY they keep getting killed in other content when they are godlike on DFBs.

I also find it highly amusing when they insist they know everything about the game because they have a level 50, and that I must be a noob because my character is only level 17.

I know it's not a new phenomenon, there will always be clueless idiots PLing and learning nothing. This one is just more in your face than other methods, and available to everyone.

I don't care if people want to PL. But, for the love of Pete, make an effort to learn why you keep dying in other content instead of blaming your teammates for your repeated deaths.

Have you seen this suggestion then Wendy?

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Quote: I think we need special places we can go where we exemplar/malefactor to level 3 and fight level 2 cows that respawn quickly. In a cow pen of course. Quote: Originally Posted by Bullet Barrage ...Why? Quote: I wanna level quickly.

Now the person making this suggestion insists it's serious suggestion so I can only surmise he either thinks the DfB is too hard, or he doesn't want to play a game where the opponents can fight back.