What makes good use of the kb2kd proc?

In this thread, I'd like to make a full(ish) inventory of the best places to use the new proc. I have selfish reasons, that I want to make sure I haven't overlooked any good uses for it. I've slotted it once and found it to be a noticable improvement for the Assault Bot in Robotics. Now enemies stew in the burn patches in stead of flying out of them. I'd like to focus on kb powers, not the proc's other bonus, to add a chance to kd to damaging powers with no kb of any mag.

There's a heckuva lot of talk about how much of an improvement it is for Tornado and of course Bonfire has seemingly been transformed from a skippable, at best situational power to instantly allow +4/8 soloing as soon as the proc is slotted.

What else is there?

There are the 2 Shockwaves, from Sonic Attack and Claws. This proc will allow Sonic Attack to have a legit second aoe, with the same range and arc as Howl. Now my Claws Stalker will actually have an aoe to use on teams.

Explosive Arrow - Archery's other aoe.

AR has a few candidates, but it seems like the best would be M30 Grenade (also a personal attack from Mercs), which has a high mag aoe kb.

One might think that Dark Blast's Torrent would be a good spot, but it's still low damage and Dark has good aoe otherwise. On the other hand, it would provide another means of control to a blast set already rich with control.

Dual Pistols has some options, but I wouldn't bother since you can turn off the kb at will anyway.

Energy Blast is rich with kb, but I'd go for Explosive Blast, the aoe.

Psychic Blast has Telekinetic Blast. Personally I wouldn't bother slotting it here, I actually don't mind having a single target gtfo power like this.

Rad's Electron Blast. I've never thought of this as a creator of "problem" kb, but if you want none at all, here you go.

Device's and Traps Trip Mine. Also Time Bomb, if you're one of the few that take this.

Energy Manipulation's Power Thrust. I wouldn't slot this here as I've always viewed this only as a gtfo power.

Thunder Strike - From Electrical Manipulation and Electric Mastery (defs and corrs): an enthusiastic YES! From Electric Melee and Charge Mastery (MMs): No (mag <1 already).

Telekinetic Thrust from Mental Manipulation and Psionic Assault. Very high mag. I wouldn't use the proc here for the same reason as Power Thrust or TK Blast.

Repulsing Torrent from Kinetic Melee. I might come to find KM appealing with a legit 2nd aoe. Probably not.

Hurl from Super Strength and Hurl Boulder from Stone Melee. Still long animating powers, but proc helps.

Disruptor Blast, Mace Beam Volley and Mace Beam from Mace Mastery for basically all ATs except corrs/defs/khelds. Personally I've always eliminated Mace from consideration when looking for an epic aoe, but now I can consider it. And still most likely not choose it.

Storm's Gale but the consensus seems to be that Tornado is much better.

Phantasm maybe? Solo I've never considered his kb too much of a concern, but teams can get annoyed.

Force Bolt from Force Field? Not for me, as I do value the ability to kb a mob at times, but there do exists some of you that say "no kb, none of the time"

Khelds are so full of kb I don't even know where to start with them. I've heard Solar Flare is a good spot for PBs. I haven't heard for shades, maybe Dark Detonation?

Frag Grenade for Soldiers, Banes have a few Mace attacks, including 2 aoes, that do kb. I'm not sure which would be the "best".

What else is a good candidate for the kb2kd proc?

Solar Flare went from being one of my least favorite powers in the game to freaking awesome because of this proc. And yeah, Dark Detonation is sweet with it too. I have it slotted with Posi: Acc/Dam, Dam Rech; Javelin Volley: Acc/Dam, Dam Rech; Force Feedback: +Recharge and KB to KD. It's pretty awesome.

I opted not to put one in Explosive Arrow since I don't have the space for it on my Blaster, and I have E Fences for tAOE -KB anyways. If you didn't need to pick up a recharge bonus and didn't value the FF proc as much as I do though, that'd be a good spot for it.

Crane Kick from MA might also be a good spot for it.

Mace: Crowd Control

Titan Weapon: Arc of Destruction

come to mind, not positive they take the new damage IO

I'm sure they would take the Overwhelming Force set, being damage powers, but those do kd (.67 mag) so not really for this list.

I was looking forward to using it in (Claws) Shockwave, Explosive Blast and Solar Flare - I never thought of putting it into (Sonic) Shockwave or Thunderstrike - whatever will my Sonic/Elec Blaster do?!

Umbral Torrent in Blaster Dark Blast is a major candidate. The base power has 100% chance to knockback, so its 100% chance to KD, -5.25% ToHit, with a cast time of 1.03 seconds.

Yep, I used my IO proc on Dark Detonation on my WS; so nice

One to test that I just thought of is Volcanic Gasses. Because this power spawns pets instead of procing normally every 10 seconds, it has odd proc-itunities. I doubt it rises to the occasion of Bonfire but once it has the knockdown proc fixed, it may turn out to add even more to this already good power.

What about 1) Wormhole for Gravity controllers? 2) Singularity Pet for grav trollers? Anyone tried those yet?

So far I've used -KB for:

Telekinetic Blast on a Time/Psy defender, so I'm not constantly knocking things out of debuff range. The KB is probably useful for Blasters, but my Time and Rad defenders like mobs neatly packed and ready for processing.

Explosive Blast on a Time/Nrg defender, for the reason mentioned above, although less useful since all of the other attacks still do KB.

Crane Kick on a MA/SD scrapper - I like the animation more than Cobra Strike, but the KB always made the power annoying, except for the occasional "Crane Kicked off a rooftop". Problem solved.

Repulsing Torrent on a WP/KM Tanker - Just 'cause.

I also have a Claw/EA Brute who is now looking to take up Shockwave, and the word on the street is that it's very good.

If the enhancer wasn't unique, it would probably change my thoughts on PBs, but a modified Solar Flare just isn't enough, sadly.

The Bonfire thing is tempting, but I'm going to sit that one out see how it plays out before rolling up a new character to take advantage of it. My money says it'll get pounded down.

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How about Rise of the Phoenix? If I recall it does 3 ticks of damage, each with high mag knockback attached - if all 3 landed it'd be around blaster nuke levels of damage, alongside the stun and knockdown.

Sonic Blast's Shockwave is a nice spot for the proc. It's only slightly less damage than Howl and with the proc it becomes a decent second cone aoe with some control via knockdown that lines up perfectly with Howl. No worries about things being knocked out of range.

I cant even get enough of these things in 30 plus runs to even slot the stuff I want to slot.. never mind all this other stuff you guys are bringing up.