Four player teams are great!

I like four person teams, and I like eight person teams. Most of the time I don't like it when content is based around a certain amount of people (for task forces, I understand why, but for things like holiday trials, I wish they would both lower the minimum and increase the maximum).

One of the things I didn't like about a certain other MMO that I played for a few months (which I wish I hadn't, since I missed out on the loyalty rewards and buying the Pocket D pack - boo!) was the fact that everything was based around the four-team max. That meant that for a lot of the content, you HAD to have a tank, you HAD to have a healer, and you HAD to have two DPS. I never got to do the higher-end content that let you have more than 4, because I lost interest before that point, but it was still annoying.

I like in CoH that you can pretty much team with whoever and whatever you want. Depending on the skill level involved, you can even do weird pairings and challenges. Like an all-blaster TF or an all melee TF or whatever. You don't NEED something, unless a mission or TF is specifically designed for having multiple AT's (like fighting Hami in the LGTF) or you're going for badges and want reliable roles to fill.

I really enjoy the four player teams. As others have said, each person playing counts.
Yes that means you can be stuck with someone who sucks.
Most of the time its been fine, with some slower battles with less optimal or lower level range characters.

It's made the team up teleporter shine too. And suit my altitis so well.

Logon, check market, often have an event before finished mucking about - red or blue side.

I wouldn't want all content to be so strictly mandated with team size, but as an event I'm finding it a great size. Much better for me than large leagues.

I agree. This 4 player content was created well for the small team. It gave many under-rated powersets time to shine. I love the incarnate trials and 8 man task forces but this is a nice and overdue change. Well done developers.

Mister D, not looking for an argument either so no worries I do still play with my friends, it's just that many times now it's been a case of having 5 or 6 people wanting to do the new Holiday even together but of course it's 4 players. Considering the game's been up to 8 players for so many years, I personally would prefer it if an 8 person option was present.

I do like the 4 player dynamic, it's been proven by other games and it works in this one too, I just dislike the lack of choice to have the established norm.

The team size means little to me, but does the level cap on it absolutely HAVE to be 29? Makes my /Thermal a little sad to go in knowing full well I have zero debuffs available to me.

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I love me some four-person teams. To the point where capping team sizes to 4 would be the first change I'd make if I somehow became a dev and didn't care about making players hate me. All of the reasons I love 'em have been covered pretty well.

I like it for the sake of variety. Some content is fun solo, sometimes a TF with an 8 person team can be fun. Sometimes solo feels like a slog and sometimes on an 8 person team, I feel like I can afk and it won't make much of a difference to a team. So, having *some* content geared towards teams smaller than max size is nice. You're not alone, you've got 3 other folks to either pile on your strengths or shore up your weaknesses, but *you* matter.

I've had similar experiences to some here with an all melee team (I think we had 2 brutes, a tank, and a scrapper) where it was fairly slow and I was gasping for breath the whole time. It wasn't as fun as others but it was still pretty fun. And it gives you an appreciation of what the other ATs bring to the table when they're not around.

Conversely, I had an awesome team last night when I picked up my Fire/Dark controller that I had sidelined as "not fun". Two controllers, a tank and a scrapper and we hit every badge (that I know of) and blasted through it. Now, I have another alt to stick in my rotation.

I have to concur that smaller team content is a nice change of pace. Then again, I don't particularly enjoy the big leagues for iStuff, Hami, or Ship Raids and usually run solo or duo. Quite simply, the more people, the less any sort of tactical effort matters, barring iTrial gimmicks that force them via unresistable deathrays if you don't follow the script. Not a huge fan of those either. Especially when you can have so many things flying across your screen in a league that it can be hard to spot death patches around the barriers and judgements.

Here is a crazy idea..Talk to the people on the team make three new friends!

For some reason on my server you queue up get on a team no one says a word to you reminds me of pick ups in "that game with the elves"

On another note i feel the opposite of some. This event and the four person teams shows that you do not need the "perfect' team to accomplish tasks.. I have done the event with 3 controllers and a dom.. another team was a scrapper two brutes and a tank.. There have been other crazy combinations of teams but I can not remember them I think I have run it way to much!

Of course you get strange ones as well.. like the team that was upset because my Bot/traps could not revive...

The arena is fine for what it is, but I find praising it for making each team member "count" to be a headscratcher.

What it mainly made me do was notice how poorly some powersets and ATs fare compared to others, and how the diversity in this game leans heavily on having teams scale between up to 8 people. It's hard for me to ignore that my Blaster needed to to be fed 3 purples through every moment of the arena or be destroyed, or that Sonic Resonance provides extremely mediocre support when it is forced to be the only support option. There isn't a single slot on the team to burn, so I have "retired" these characters from running this event. The difference running this event with some group makeups differs in the extreme, and much more so than with 8 person content. I can't foist these characters on my teammates again.

It basically just underscores for me why there is so little build diversity in generic fantasy MMOs. So to get the procs, I just bring out characters who can deal with the specific mechanics, just like I'd bring out one very specific prescribed Holy Priest or Fire Mage or whatever character in another game.

Funny thing about 4 people PuGs: some powers become useful. My blaster found the starting immob power the only thing keeping him alive on some teams.

Theres a relatively new korean mmo out now, which has a pretty nice approach to teaming and team xp imo.

XP is not shared. if you team, you just get a flat 20% xp bonus.

So if you solo mob A you get 1000xp.
if you in a team of 3 and kill mob A each person would get 1200xp.

I dont care for the 4 person teams.

It can lead to some incredible failures at times.

You really really need a -regen and someone to taunt for best results, and yes Im seeing alot people leave if they dont get this.

not because its nots doable, but because its alot slower to not have a -regen.

You just need to buy a lot of red and purple inspirations. The summer event literally dumps you right next to an inspiration vendor immediately after you lose, if you don't burn through a million inspirations a minute under those conditions it's really kinda your own fault for fights taking forever.