Knockback to Knockdown!
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Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2012-06-30 18:20 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
I know someone is going to say it, so might as well. My energy blaster has never had anyone say anything about KB and he's existed since before the proc came to be.
OTOH: I lead my own PuGs, so they kinda have to behave.
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If you live the by rule "You KB it, you kill it," you get a lot fewer complaints as well.
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Originally Posted by Tormentoso
I know someone is going to say it, so might as well. My energy blaster has never had anyone say anything about KB and he's existed since before the proc came to be.
OTOH: I lead my own PuGs, so they kinda have to behave. |
The only character I have a problem with KB on is my Peacebringer...because I hate using Seekers or Solar Flare (human) and having the mobs I'm trying to kill scatter. I don't care about the team, it annoys *me*, especially given Dwarf Flare is KD. I refuse to waste a slot on it, though, so I'll just have to tough it out.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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They could make Solar Flare like Dwarf Flare, but I think the current devs are paying homage to Castle. 
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There really are only two powers (or power types) I'd ever want to put that enhancement in - Hand Clap/Thunderclap and Shockwave. I'm pretty sure I can't put them in a non-damage control power, and Shockwave isn't that bad.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
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Rise of the Phoenix.
That is all.
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S'wuh?
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Originally Posted by Darth_Khasei
They could make Solar Flare like Dwarf Flare, but I think the current devs are paying homage to Castle.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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That's code for "balance by annoyance," I believe, even though most of the original "balanced by annoyance" powers in the game trace back to Geko.
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
S'wuh?
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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I think this enhancements set give a second though also for /KM Repulsing torrent power.
I still refuse to play Energy Blast again until I'm able to make all of my KB attacks KD.
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This is kind of how I feel. I should be able to slot this IO in both Explosive Blast and Energy Toprrent.. but for some silly reason it was decided that this Proc needed to be Unique even though people would LOVE the ability to turn KB into KD.. |
Originally Posted by Tater Todd
I still refuse to play Energy Blast again until I'm able to make all of my KB attacks KD.
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I had a build all worked out for Airhammer my main until I realized that this IO only works in one power. Very Very sad...
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Bonfire. It is now deliciously broken. So much so that is renders all other control powers in Fire Control obsolete.
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Originally Posted by Snowzone
Bonfire. It is now deliciously broken. So much so that is renders all other control powers in Fire Control obsolete.
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for a dominator this is probably true.
Controllers have the problem that it does not grant containment.
but from outright control, drop from out of LoS, continuous knockdown, up every fight. It is crazy.
My blaster loves his now overpowered crowed control power now drop it and rain of fire from around a corner and enjoy the show.
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I'm ready to burn it all.
Lets Fight!
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Uhhh... guh.... guh.... O.O why did I not think of this before?!?! Wow, that is awesome. Add another one to the 'tornado, bonfire, etc' list of powers that this IO is utterly ridiculous in! |
Originally Posted by CBeet
Rise of the Phoenix.
That is all. |
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I figure Singularity ought to be a fun one to try it out on. Bring Recall Friend with so you can move it.
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Oh has anyone tried it in the Kin Melee super knockback torrent power?
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Originally Posted by Airhammer
This is kind of how I feel. I should be able to slot this IO in both Explosive Blast and Energy Toprrent.. but for some silly reason it was decided that this Proc needed to be Unique even though people would LOVE the ability to turn KB into KD..
I had a build all worked out for Airhammer my main until I realized that this IO only works in one power. Very Very sad... |
I really REALLY like Energy Blast and I also like KB but there's a limit! lmaoQuote:
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Originally Posted by dugfromthearth
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For a dominator this is probably true. Controllers have the problem that it does not grant containment. but from outright control, drop from out of LoS, continuous knockdown, up every fight. It is crazy. |
Also the bad thing about the KD proc in Bonfire is on team Bonfire becomes almost useless. Dominators, Controllers, Blasters and SOA Spam Immob like crazy on team, it would be only useful as an alpha absorber...like a less impressive version of Carrion Creepers.
It's a darn shame that the Proc isn't working in regular powers because I was SO looking forward to slotting it in Psychic Shockwave and Engulfing Darkness on my Doms lol.
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Originally Posted by CyWolf
Oh has anyone tried it in the Kin Melee super knockback torrent power?
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It doesn't work in Repel because the IO is a damage universal and Repel doesn't deal Damage but it works VERY well in Repulsing Torrent! Yum! lol
Speaking of pushing the limit...with this proc and my recharge on my Elec/Earth Dom I would of been a God lol. With 20% chance for KD and some hold procs the Immobs for Gravity and Elec Control would have added even more control sets since Grav and Elec's immob don't grant -KB to baddies.
Elec Control's immobs do mag 100 -KB and a bazillion % resist KB. Only Grav's immobs don't do -KB.
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Derp on my part. I meant that Elec's Immob allows for knockdown. So with Jolting Chain and the KD proc as well as the Ragnarok proc you are looking at KD city!|
Originally Posted by Aggelakis
Elec Control's immobs do mag 100 -KB and a bazillion % resist KB. Only Grav's immobs don't do -KB.
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EDIT: Wait...no..chain Fences don't dish out -KB Agge. It Immobs but it's alot like Gravity's immob.
http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Electr...l#Chain_Fences
Chain Fences You can immobilize multiple foes in a chain of electricity, dealing minor damage to all foes in range and draining some endurance. This power also reduces Flight capacity in targets.
Damage Minor(Energy) Recharge Moderate Minimum Level
2 (Controller) 
2 (Dominator) Effects Ranged(Area of Effect) Foe Immobilize, -Endurance, -Recovery Enhancements
Enhance Accuracy 
Enhance Damage 
Enhance Endurance Modification 
Reduce Endurance Cost 
Enhance Immobilization Duration 
Enhance Range 
Increase Attack Rate Set Categories 
Targeted AoE Damage 
Immobilize 
Endurance Modification
Electric's single target immobilize does KB resist to the target.
The AoE Immobilize does not.
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I think ive done between 15-20 runs. ONE -KB IO... I think I would rather just buy them off the market depending on cost ( and i have an idea how high I will go )
The hard things I can do--- The impossible just take a little bit longer.
If numbers are so much more important than a teammate who is fun to play with, forget about the game altogether and go play with a calculator instead. -Claws and Effect-
Its not like its a big secret that radial KB sucks.
Cone KB doesn't suck as much but I *still* see stormies gale stuff out of their own Freezing Rain. 
What the IO does is open up some powersets/combos which had some rather "team unfriendly"* powers. It also makes powers which were auto skips into must take with KB to KD IO.
*As to what people call "team unfriendly" is debateable* YMMV
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Bottom 4: (Peacebringer) way below everything else, Mastermind, Dominator, Blaster
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My Energy/Energy blaster loves you Devs for making that proc.
I was able to team now with not a single word said about knockback. I put mine in Torrent and since most of them are now on the ground with my opening salvo the other knockback powers have little effect!
Best proc ever.