Where is Praetoria
"Praetoria stands at the location of Hamidon's first great defeat at the hands of Marcus Cole, the man who proved to the world that the Devouring Earth could be beaten. Cole dedicated himself to the Earth's protection in this place, and it was here that Cole drew his line in the sand against the Devouring Earth. He established the city of Praetoria as a stronghold for those who suffered at the hands (and claws, fangs, and tentacles) of the Devouring Earth." - ParagonWiki (clickie)
Good write-up under the background section. I recall it's supposed to be somewhere down Central America way or further south, but I could be way off on that.
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It's theorized to be somewhere in the southern United States or Central America, as it's supposed to be built on the alleged site that Emperor Cole "defeated" Hamidon. This is concluded from where the background lore describes Hamidon itself emerging from South America to attack.
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The most likely location is somewhere on the lower Mississippi River: it's near First Ward, and First Ward is very definitely somewhere on the Gulf Coast not too far from New Orleans.
I'd say Gulf Coast or Mississippi Delta given the look of the old residential area of Lamdba Sector...
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My favorite speculation is that it's somewhere in Florida, mostly due to the river island formation and large stretches of flat swampland.
Also, the same person put it: "We already have massive cities built on artificial islands with sprawling underground networks, where everyone is supposed to be happy and the place is meant to be an ideal place, we call them Theme Parks."
It led to me imagining Marcus Mouse (Or Mickey Cole), Dominnietrix (or Minnie Duncan), Anti-Duck, and Goofy as Neuron. (Just imagine the Tin Mage TF with Neuron rushing in... and slipping and giving the Goofy yell as he crashes past the player party)
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I looked around, and did a search but I couldn't find out where is this city? I look nothing like Paragon City... unless there was a massive earth quack the broke Atlas, Perez, Galaxy, apart :P
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It's not in Central America because there mention of Hamidon crossing the Mexico/US boarder on his way north before the final showdown with Cole. Also in a very early mission in the Underground you encounter a bum who comments that this land used to be a nation called America, and that everyone has forgotten what that used to stand for. There's also mention in game that Anti-Matter's reactors power the entire East Coast.
So, Praetoria is in the US, far enough south for palm trees to grow, probably closer to the eastern US than not, and close enough to First Ward.
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I had a fairly long comment on a similar thread not long after Going Rogue came out, and my theory is that Praetoria is in Lake Pontchartrain, and First Ward is old New Orleans. After all, where else in the country do they separate portions of the city into "wards"?
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It's not in Central America because there mention of Hamidon crossing the Mexico/US boarder on his way north before the final showdown with Cole. Also in a very early mission in the Underground you encounter a bum who comments that this land used to be a nation called America, and that everyone has forgotten what that used to stand for. There's also mention in game that Anti-Matter's reactors power the entire East Coast.
So, Praetoria is in the US, far enough south for palm trees to grow, probably closer to the eastern US than not, and close enough to First Ward. . |
Also note that the use of 'Ward' is not necessarily a Southern or New Orleanian convention -- Chicago has 'wards.' Although, Nadia clearly speaks with a Cajun accent -- although Praetoria is made up of refugees from all over.
It's possible that Praetoria is on the Mississippi River since there is an underground river through the city that leads to international waters. But there are many large rivers in Mississippi and Alabama which also fit that description. And it would be unlikely that power plants that fed "the Eastern Seaboard" and not also other parts of the U.S. would be on the Mississippi River.
Therefore, my best guess is that Praetoria is on an Alabama river that empties into the Gulf of Mexico.
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I don't know whats left of the East Coast, but this is an extremely interesting comment. Why hasn't posi done anything even remotely close to this? Also, space base? Our posi doesn't have one of those either. Why is he slacking so badly?
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2. AMs reactors are clearly not eco-friendly. Posi wouldn't dream to build such monstrosities.
3. Space stations are so much easier to build in a totalitarian state where one can 'find' the resources to make it happen... especially when your mortal enemy is so... earth-bound.
Note: Since it seems more than coincidental that Praetoria is the place where Cold 'defeated' Hamidon and it is also the place where AM's reactors were... I'm willing to bet that Hamidon was making a beeline to the reactors to destroy them.
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1. AMs reactors powered the East Coast *before* their Hamidon Wars.
2. AMs reactors are clearly not eco-friendly. Posi wouldn't dream to build such monstrosities. Note: Since it seems more than coincidental that Praetoria is the place where Cold 'defeated' Hamidon and it is also the place where AM's reactors were... I'm willing to bet that Hamidon was making a beeline to the reactors to destroy them. |
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A number of additional theories:
1: Just like there's no large city in the Rhode Island we know, Praetoria could be based on an alternate geography that led to the creation of a large metropolis between Houston and New Orleans, or between New Orleans and the Florida Panhandle.
2: During the Hamidon Wars, the Old River control dam was destroyed, and the Atchafalaya River captured most of the outflow of the Mississippi River, turning New Orleans into a backwater and leading to the creation of a new urban area at the new terminus of the longest river of the country.
I've always theorized it was Galveston.
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I don't know whats left of the East Coast, but this is an extremely interesting comment. Why hasn't posi done anything even remotely close to this? Also, space base? Our posi doesn't have one of those either. Why is he slacking so badly?
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I had a fairly long comment on a similar thread not long after Going Rogue came out, and my theory is that Praetoria is in Lake Pontchartrain, and First Ward is old New Orleans. After all, where else in the country do they separate portions of the city into "wards"?
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The lake around the city is man-made - it was flooded to help defend the city.
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I looked around, and did a search but I couldn't find out where is this city? I look nothing like Paragon City... unless there was a massive earthquake that broke Atlas, Perez, Galaxy, apart :P Or maybe it is Kings Row, Skyway City, Independence Port and Talos Island =. It can't be Rouge Isles unless Mother Mayhem pushed the islands so they look neat.
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For those who don't know what the maps look like here a picture.
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Praetoria