So are we getting a new login screen every issue from now on?
They should give us a dropdown so we can select between backgrounds.
Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound
They should give us a dropdown so we can select between backgrounds.
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I agree, because Penelope Yin pisses me off. She's like 13 in Faultline when you meet her (or appears to be anyway), and then suddenly she's in her twenties and joining the Freedom Phalanx! This load screen just keeps reminding me how silly that is.
Larry: Owen, what the hell did you do to my wife?
Owen: Well I don't want to say on the phone - all I can tell you is that I killed her last night.
Oh Yin, how i love thee!
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I agree, because Penelope Yin pisses me off. She's like 13 in Faultline when you meet her (or appears to be anyway), and then suddenly she's in her twenties and joining the Freedom Phalanx! This load screen just keeps reminding me how silly that is.
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Issue 23: May 2012
She's at least 18 now, maybe older.
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Issue 23: May 2012 She's at least 18 now, maybe older. |
I met her in Faultline in March. Now, three months later, she's all grown up and dressing like a B-movie slattern? Whether she was introduced six years ago or not, she shouldn't be the only character in game (or in comics) who ages in real-time. Just my opinion of course.
Larry: Owen, what the hell did you do to my wife?
Owen: Well I don't want to say on the phone - all I can tell you is that I killed her last night.
I met her in Faultline in March. Now, three months later, she's all grown up and dressing like a B-movie slattern? Whether she was introduced six years ago or not, she shouldn't be the only character in game (or in comics) who ages in real-time. Just my opinion of course. |
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Characters have changed and evolved as you progress through story missions (like Faultline and Fusionette's careers as heroes), so Penny's just following the same pattern. The fact that she exists as a Faultline delivery girl and a Phalanx member at the same time is indeed pretty timey wimey, but I hope they never "fix" that by removing young Penny: the Faultline story's one of my favorites in the game.
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"People assume that time in Paragon City is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually, from game-playing, character-development viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly, timey wimey... stuff."
![]() Characters have changed and evolved as you progress through story missions (like Faultline and Fusionette's careers as heroes), so Penny's just following the same pattern. The fact that she exists as a Faultline delivery girl and a Phalanx member at the same time is indeed pretty timey wimey, but I hope they never "fix" that by removing young Penny: the Faultline storyline's one of my favorites in the game. |
I did like how Faultline and Fusionette show up later and seem to have progressed as super heroes. Penny's progression, however, seemed a bit drastic.
But yeah, I hope they don't get rid of her young version either because the Faultline arcs, (and Penny Yins in particular) are some of my favorites too!
Larry: Owen, what the hell did you do to my wife?
Owen: Well I don't want to say on the phone - all I can tell you is that I killed her last night.
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They should give us a dropdown so we can select between backgrounds.
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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Faultline and the RWZ are now pretty much "legacy" arcs, as they no long reflect the current situation in the game world.
I think that id'd be helpful if the devs added text to the start of each arc in those 2 zones, telling players that the events in them weren't current.
They've already started a similar dating idea with the new Belladonna arc, which tells players right at the sart that it takes place after the events in DA and the DD Trial.
@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
I guess I need to visit RWZ - I didn't realize that was Penelope. I like the look - she looks so darned happy to be charging into battle!
Faultline and the RWZ are now pretty much "legacy" arcs, as they no long reflect the current situation in the game world.
I think that id'd be helpful if the devs added text to the start of each arc in those 2 zones, telling players that the events in them weren't current. They've already started a similar dating idea with the new Belladonna arc, which tells players right at the sart that it takes place after the events in DA and the DD Trial. |
That's quite the quick transformation.
I just hand wave the disconnect away with the most obvious explanation:
Before Ms. Yin made the PsychoChronoMetron broken, she made a "big" wish.
Problem solved.
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Faultline and the RWZ are now pretty much "legacy" arcs, as they no long reflect the current situation in the game world.
I think that id'd be helpful if the devs added text to the start of each arc in those 2 zones, telling players that the events in them weren't current. They've already started a similar dating idea with the new Belladonna arc, which tells players right at the sart that it takes place after the events in DA and the DD Trial. |
I want my GR Desi loading screen back
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I met her in Faultline in March. Now, three months later, she's all grown up and dressing like a B-movie slattern? Whether she was introduced six years ago or not, she shouldn't be the only character in game (or in comics) who ages in real-time. Just my opinion of course.
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How old do you think she was that dad let her zip about town in this kind of city?
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I met her in Faultline in March. Now, three months later, she's all grown up and dressing like a B-movie slattern? Whether she was introduced six years ago or not, she shouldn't be the only character in game (or in comics) who ages in real-time. Just my opinion of course.
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Kids seem to grow up fast, then stay young adults forever... well, when it suits the story. Some teens stay teens for decades. Heck, some teams have teens stay teens for decades while their teammates have grown up. I don't know of any where a teen teamed with a teammate that has a kid that grows up to team with the still-teen original character, but I wouldn't be surprised if it existed.
We're playing a game set in a genre that always treated time rather... fluidly... changing with the author's whim. I consider all CoH inconsistencies as just the devs being true to the genre.
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Please note - Penny was doing deliveries for her dad in Overbrook before the FIRST rikiti war.
How old do you think she was that dad let her zip about town in this kind of city? |
I guess I never thought about that. I just got the impression that she was junior-highish from her appearance and dialogue in Faultline and the impression stuck. I'll probably continue to think of her that way too, and be annoyed every time I see her "growed up" version (though it's hard to play the game with my fingers stuck in my ears and my eyes screwed shut chanting "lalalalalalalalalala...")
Larry: Owen, what the hell did you do to my wife?
Owen: Well I don't want to say on the phone - all I can tell you is that I killed her last night.
Not too different from comics, though.
Kids seem to grow up fast, then stay young adults forever... well, when it suits the story. Some teens stay teens for decades. Heck, some teams have teens stay teens for decades while their teammates have grown up. I don't know of any where a teen teamed with a teammate that has a kid that grows up to team with the still-teen original character, but I wouldn't be surprised if it existed. We're playing a game set in a genre that always treated time rather... fluidly... changing with the author's whim. I consider all CoH inconsistencies as just the devs being true to the genre. |
I'm all for time passing in comics (and CoH) - I'm just not used to people "aging" in real time. I mean, Peter Parker should have died of Parkinson's disease years ago (even sooner since he has the proportional age of a spider, hehe). Not realistic, but that's what seems to happen in comic books, and Im cool with that.
But you're right - aging certain characters to a certain point in order to get the story told is par for the course. I just wish they could have kept Penny as a kid, since I liked that character and there are so few young NPCs in the game.
Larry: Owen, what the hell did you do to my wife?
Owen: Well I don't want to say on the phone - all I can tell you is that I killed her last night.
I'm all for time passing in comics (and CoH) - I'm just not used to people "aging" in real time. I mean, Peter Parker should have died of Parkinson's disease years ago (even sooner since he has the proportional age of a spider, hehe). Not realistic, but that's what seems to happen in comic books, and Im cool with that.
But you're right - aging certain characters to a certain point in order to get the story told is par for the course. I just wish they could have kept Penny as a kid, since I liked that character and there are so few young NPCs in the game. |
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It seems like that Statesman one wasn't up for that long, and the new one is very Night Ward-themed, which obviously isn't gonna be the big new thing forever.
Issue 16 made me feel like this.
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