So are we getting a new login screen every issue from now on?
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Posted on: 2012-06-01 01:26 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
They should give us a dropdown so we can select between backgrounds.
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Originally Posted by Tenzhi
They should give us a dropdown so we can select between backgrounds.
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I agree, because Penelope Yin pisses me off. She's like 13 in Faultline when you meet her (or appears to be anyway), and then suddenly she's in her twenties and joining the Freedom Phalanx! This load screen just keeps reminding me how silly that is.
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I really like this idea.
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Originally Posted by Tenzhi
They should give us a dropdown so we can select between backgrounds.
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Originally Posted by Plug_Nickel
I agree, because Penelope Yin pisses me off. She's like 13 in Faultline when you meet her (or appears to be anyway), and then suddenly she's in her twenties and joining the Freedom Phalanx! This load screen just keeps reminding me how silly that is.
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Issue 23: May 2012
She's at least 18 now, maybe older.
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Originally Posted by Demobot
Issue 8 (and Faultline revamp): November 2006
Issue 23: May 2012 She's at least 18 now, maybe older. |
I met her in Faultline in March. Now, three months later, she's all grown up and dressing like a B-movie slattern? Whether she was introduced six years ago or not, she shouldn't be the only character in game (or in comics) who ages in real-time. Just my opinion of course.
Larry: Owen, what the hell did you do to my wife?
Owen: Well I don't want to say on the phone - all I can tell you is that I killed her last night.
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"People assume that time in Paragon City is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually, from a game-playing, character-development viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly, timey wimey... stuff." | I met her in Faultline in March. Now, three months later, she's all grown up and dressing like a B-movie slattern? Whether she was introduced six years ago or not, she shouldn't be the only character in game (or in comics) who ages in real-time. Just my opinion of course. |
Characters have changed and evolved as you progress through story missions (like Faultline and Fusionette's careers as heroes), so Penny's just following the same pattern. The fact that she exists as a Faultline delivery girl and a Phalanx member at the same time is indeed pretty timey wimey, but I hope they never "fix" that by removing young Penny: the Faultline story's one of my favorites in the game.
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Originally Posted by Sparkly Soldier
"People assume that time in Paragon City is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually, from game-playing, character-development viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly, timey wimey... stuff."
Characters have changed and evolved as you progress through story missions (like Faultline and Fusionette's careers as heroes), so Penny's just following the same pattern. The fact that she exists as a Faultline delivery girl and a Phalanx member at the same time is indeed pretty timey wimey, but I hope they never "fix" that by removing young Penny: the Faultline storyline's one of my favorites in the game. |
I did like how Faultline and Fusionette show up later and seem to have progressed as super heroes. Penny's progression, however, seemed a bit drastic.
But yeah, I hope they don't get rid of her young version either because the Faultline arcs, (and Penny Yins in particular) are some of my favorites too!
Larry: Owen, what the hell did you do to my wife?
Owen: Well I don't want to say on the phone - all I can tell you is that I killed her last night.
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I'd like it if they did that - it'd be like the "cover" for each Issue.
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Originally Posted by Vanden
It seems like that Statesman one wasn't up for that long, and the new one is very Night Ward-themed, which obviously isn't gonna be the big new thing forever.
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That was my thought exactly.|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I'd like it if they did that - it'd be like the "cover" for each Issue.
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I kinda wish they had done this sooner and taken opportunities to homage iconic comic book covers of the past.
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Originally Posted by Tenzhi
They should give us a dropdown so we can select between backgrounds.
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Originally Posted by Plug_Nickel
I agree, because Penelope Yin pisses me off. She's like 13 in Faultline when you meet her (or appears to be anyway), and then suddenly she's in her twenties and joining the Freedom Phalanx! This load screen just keeps reminding me how silly that is.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
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She's showing less skin that just about every other female signature character.
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Originally Posted by Plug_Nickel
dressing like a B-movie slattern?
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@Golden Girl
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That's my major complaint, too |
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
She's showing less skin that just about every other female signature character.
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Next she'll be shoplifting, and before you know it she'll be off to rehab and court-ordered community service. In a "very special" Issue.
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Originally Posted by Plug_Nickel
I met her in Faultline in March. Now, three months later, she's all grown up and dressing like a B-movie slattern?
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Faultline and the RWZ are now pretty much "legacy" arcs, as they no long reflect the current situation in the game world.
I think that id'd be helpful if the devs added text to the start of each arc in those 2 zones, telling players that the events in them weren't current.
They've already started a similar dating idea with the new Belladonna arc, which tells players right at the sart that it takes place after the events in DA and the DD Trial.
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I guess I need to visit RWZ - I didn't realize that was Penelope. I like the look - she looks so darned happy to be charging into battle!
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I'd usually consider this unnecessary, as the devs do say that time is represented differently through the game- those starting in Praetoria tomorrow are still under Tyrant's thumb despite his fall this issue, after all. However, Faultline zone is level 15-25. Penelope Yin Task Force is level 20-25.|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Faultline and the RWZ are now pretty much "legacy" arcs, as they no long reflect the current situation in the game world.
I think that id'd be helpful if the devs added text to the start of each arc in those 2 zones, telling players that the events in them weren't current. They've already started a similar dating idea with the new Belladonna arc, which tells players right at the sart that it takes place after the events in DA and the DD Trial. |
That's quite the quick transformation.
I just hand wave the disconnect away with the most obvious explanation:
Before Ms. Yin made the PsychoChronoMetron broken, she made a "big" wish.
Problem solved.
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It doesn't happen often, but I have to agree with you GG.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Faultline and the RWZ are now pretty much "legacy" arcs, as they no long reflect the current situation in the game world.
I think that id'd be helpful if the devs added text to the start of each arc in those 2 zones, telling players that the events in them weren't current. They've already started a similar dating idea with the new Belladonna arc, which tells players right at the sart that it takes place after the events in DA and the DD Trial. |
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Please note - Penny was doing deliveries for her dad in Overbrook before the FIRST rikiti war.|
Originally Posted by Plug_Nickel
I met her in Faultline in March. Now, three months later, she's all grown up and dressing like a B-movie slattern? Whether she was introduced six years ago or not, she shouldn't be the only character in game (or in comics) who ages in real-time. Just my opinion of course.
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How old do you think she was that dad let her zip about town in this kind of city?
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Originally Posted by Plug_Nickel
I met her in Faultline in March. Now, three months later, she's all grown up and dressing like a B-movie slattern? Whether she was introduced six years ago or not, she shouldn't be the only character in game (or in comics) who ages in real-time. Just my opinion of course.
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Kids seem to grow up fast, then stay young adults forever... well, when it suits the story. Some teens stay teens for decades. Heck, some teams have teens stay teens for decades while their teammates have grown up. I don't know of any where a teen teamed with a teammate that has a kid that grows up to team with the still-teen original character, but I wouldn't be surprised if it existed.
We're playing a game set in a genre that always treated time rather... fluidly... changing with the author's whim. I consider all CoH inconsistencies as just the devs being true to the genre.
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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa
Please note - Penny was doing deliveries for her dad in Overbrook before the FIRST rikiti war.
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I guess I never thought about that. I just got the impression that she was junior-highish from her appearance and dialogue in Faultline and the impression stuck. I'll probably continue to think of her that way too, and be annoyed every time I see her "growed up" version (though it's hard to play the game with my fingers stuck in my ears and my eyes screwed shut chanting "lalalalalalalalalala...")
Larry: Owen, what the hell did you do to my wife?
Owen: Well I don't want to say on the phone - all I can tell you is that I killed her last night.
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Originally Posted by Chase_Arcanum
Not too different from comics, though.
Kids seem to grow up fast, then stay young adults forever... well, when it suits the story. Some teens stay teens for decades. Heck, some teams have teens stay teens for decades while their teammates have grown up. I don't know of any where a teen teamed with a teammate that has a kid that grows up to team with the still-teen original character, but I wouldn't be surprised if it existed. We're playing a game set in a genre that always treated time rather... fluidly... changing with the author's whim. I consider all CoH inconsistencies as just the devs being true to the genre. |
I'm all for time passing in comics (and CoH) - I'm just not used to people "aging" in real time. I mean, Peter Parker should have died of Parkinson's disease years ago (even sooner since he has the proportional age of a spider, hehe). Not realistic, but that's what seems to happen in comic books, and Im cool with that.
But you're right - aging certain characters to a certain point in order to get the story told is par for the course. I just wish they could have kept Penny as a kid, since I liked that character and there are so few young NPCs in the game.
Larry: Owen, what the hell did you do to my wife?
Owen: Well I don't want to say on the phone - all I can tell you is that I killed her last night.
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Yeah, I don't treat most of my characters as if YEARS have gone by. Penny's aging means that Shandora Ward's been in college for 5 years! I mean, I know that's somewhat common for undergrads nowadays, but she's still a FRESHMAN! Chase just looks at Penny Yin and... well, he feels very OLD all of a sudden.
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Originally Posted by Plug_Nickel
I'm all for time passing in comics (and CoH) - I'm just not used to people "aging" in real time. I mean, Peter Parker should have died of Parkinson's disease years ago (even sooner since he has the proportional age of a spider, hehe). Not realistic, but that's what seems to happen in comic books, and Im cool with that.
But you're right - aging certain characters to a certain point in order to get the story told is par for the course. I just wish they could have kept Penny as a kid, since I liked that character and there are so few young NPCs in the game. |
It seems like that Statesman one wasn't up for that long, and the new one is very Night Ward-themed, which obviously isn't gonna be the big new thing forever.
Issue 16 made me feel like this.
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