So what to do with Tyrant?

Of course - they're even more powerful and dangerous than Tyrant and his loyalist hencpeople - Battalion is an Incarnate "race" that devours the Wells of other species - the major action featuring them will be 50+ content, and as the later loyalist AVs were using +2 and +3 level shifts, the Battalion could quite easily go even higher.

I say, carbon freeze him and lock him up in Azuria's vault.

Yeah, wasn't being srs. When I said I got tired of the Incarnate storyline and was looking forward to the Battalion, I meant where it'll take us, and hope that'll spark some interest in it for me.

Although the way you described it sounds like every new season of DBZ ever. Intro new guy that's "eben moar powerfulz than last guyz and we gotta be eben moar powerfulz to stop it". Not giving me much hope :\

Uhhh... Venture, while the whole world didn't do it, the United States kind of jumped the shark on reason well before Tyrant came into the picture when they thought electing General MacArthur was a good idea.

This was something I kept trying to explain to Golden Girl about Praetorian America vs. Praetoria vs. Primal or even our own America: Despite what that bum in the sewers talked about, we only have his word and to be frank, when before things went to hell we were under an administration by a man who's name is synonymous with telling women to stay in the kitchen, Christians are the only good people in the world and everyone else is filthy Commies, gay people are evil, and the best and only way to deal with Commies is drop nukes on them until they go away I end up wondering if Praetoria under Cole or the US under MacArthur was really much different?

Sadly, it may well turn out like that since Positron did say "The Incarnate System doesn't end", then again, the earlier development cycles included regular updates for AE, attention spent on PVP, and attention given to bases and we've seen where that's gone.

On that note though, my own hope is that while I don't mind the Incarnate paths continuing, I hope once the Battalion is over, a lot more time ends up spent on providing a wider array of content not exactly linked to some world ending threat.

Have us join Odin and heroes of myth in the fields of Valhalla, let us finally free Croatoa from the influence of the Red Caps summoning the entirety of the Unseelie Fair Folk to battle us, send us to accompany Ra to carry the sun through it's Journey into the Underworld where we battle Apep. And this is the magic only stuff.

Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow City of Heroes is a game about freedom of expression and variety of experiences far more so than it is about representing any one theme, topic or genre.

Or a Vigilante! Or a Rogue if you pay them enough.

Mwa. Mwha. MWHAHAHAHA! That's what you think!

Well you could say that today they're updating the AE system as all the new enemies since GR are now being released into it, including the incarnate difficulty groups

They're both still Villains

Lord Recluse - A 100% evil person who loves to torture and kill people, even if they're his own followers for his own personal gain. A man who will not hesitate in invading other countries and is known to have gone into the future to try and capture everything there. A villain who has constantly said that he wishes to kill Statesman.

Cole - Misunderstood

Brings me to something i thought about earlier though, unless Recluse gets a huge increase in power soon then he is being left far behind in relation to the rest of the Co* world.
From being one of the strongest in the world, that a direct fight with him would result in you being destroyed, to one that gets defeated by Cole with ease! The same Cole that our incarnates are now defeating even!

Trust me I would rather deal with a little litter than have to hear a leaf blowing Clockwork 24/7 outside my apartment!

Especially one that is fitted with a flamethrower

"Oi mate! Keep it down with the leaf blowing! Some of us are trying to sleep ya know!?"

*Evil stare from clockwork*

"Oh ummm never mind! Keep up the good work!"

[Can robots give evil stares? Sure why not]

Tyrant is just the same

So how come we've let Recluse live free all these years while soon as Cole shows his face we're like LETS GET HIM!

Recluse is lucky he doesnt give iXP or he'ld be gone already

i'll take one of those drinks too and i'll take a clone to-go

Game mechanics

Praetoria isn't a faction - it was created to be destroyed, so that we could get a unique and satisfying final victory over an impressively evil and powerful enemy - there's no other story experience in the game that gives the kind of permanently triumphant conclusion that the Praetorian storyline delivers.
They laid out the groundwork in GR, then carefully built it up and paced it through the dimensional war until we reached the climax in the Magisterium, finally smashing the loyalists once and for all, and leaving their evil master crushed and humiliated in the ruins of his evil empire.

Well that doesnt sound very heroic

What part of systematically trashing a superpowered fascist dictatoship that was planning to enslave the multiverse isn't heroic?

Surely we should try to reason with him first Poor Cole was trying to just get somebody to talk to him

Still doesn't mean we have to vote against the Mako Feeding Act of 2012, If you vote against it you are voting to starve someone.

He had plenty of time to negotiate - he chose to attack us instead

I have argued in the past that there is reason to believe the entire civilization of Praetoria suffered some kind of critical failure in ethical development.

That doesn't change the facts. No matter how long the history of making bad decisions it's never too late to start making good ones. Praetorians just decided to stick with what didn't work.

We get a good look at what things were like in the US from the Destroyer's story in Jessica Flores' arc. It wasn't pretty.

I have to say, I'm with Venture on this one. The Praetorians who were alive at the time drank the Enriche-flavored Kool-Aid willingly. Whether they were ethically casual before deciding to follow Cole or they became that way after, it doesn't change the fact that they were willing to sacrifice compassion and trust for "security" and "protection."