"One build to rule them all."

Way to go and rave about how great your toon is OP. Now...do it with another toon that isn't /Mind. Seriously, you ask others for builds but you don't offer any of your own?

Jonny One-Power doesn't impress me. I'd be more impressed by tales of what your TEAM accomplished, not what you yourself did. The difference between brag and praise is the subject of the matter...

I do not see how anyone can doubt my capabilities as a farmer after reading this thread. As you can see, multiple lesser enemies are attacking me in giant swarms and I am quickly waving them away without suffering any damage! While I am insulted and personal remarks about my character are made, I remain calm and polite to everyone at all times. The evil trolls are attempting to break my spirit, and I continue to rule over them with righteous justice. Viva la TwoHeadedBoy Market!

So the idea is that Plant/Psi Dominator is a viable contender, capable of accomplishing all the same feats as my Blaster. That's really neat, since like I said earlier in this thread, I have a good friend with a Plant/Psi/Ice with a good build who isn't able to perform up to the same standard as my Blaster.

Now, obviously the Dominator will be better at controlling, but that doesn't mean that my Blaster isn't still good at it.

I think Reppu's argument is very amusing and vindictive. Whenever it comes to the Blaster, the accomplishment is always waved away because "Oh you're relying on Drain Psyche," or "Oh you can only do that because of Rain of Arrows." If I didn't plan to use two of my best powers, why would I choose to play Archery/Mental? That would just be silly. I certainly don't see how using my powers to my advantage could be seen as a shortcoming!

While I think it is possible for the Dominator to compete and maybe even out-perform in terms of tough single targets (I can't say for sure, I don't even know what the ST attack chain would be, admittedly) I do not think it can compete on an AOE damage level. Not to say that it can't pump out good AOE, I just do not believe that it would be as fast as Archery. I am able to use RoA 3 times a minute or more. We both have Psychic Shockwave. We both have an AOE immobilize to lock enemies down. I also have Explosive Arrow for an extra AOE attack and to help bring RoA up even more quickly via FF +Rech.

I have only seen one Dominator ever attempt to farm and solo standard 54x8 missions. While it was able to do both, neither was as quick as my Blaster. That's not to say that I don't think a Dominator is just as capable though, I just don't think it flat-out wins as Reppu has been implying. And I DEFINITELY don't think that it trivializes my own accomplishments in any way.

Also: There is really no way to be "better" at taking/absorbing an alpha strike. If you get there first and absorb the initial damage by yourself, you did it. One really can't be better than another at it if it's done successfully on both counts.

I got a kick out of this thread. Thanks, it definitely made my morning.


[Makes me want to test the limits of my Plant/Dark Controller]

Having reviewed the build, I can somewhat believe your claims. I say somewhat as I still find it difficult to believe you can PL someone from 1-50 in 2 hours. Maybe with an XP booster in effect for the PL-ee, but that kind of leveling speed is almost impossible for even the well-skilled PL players out there and I don't think you are in that league. No doubt you can PL fast but 1-50 in 2 hours is a bit much to fathom for anyone.

And frankly, considering that you are dependent on Vengeance to cap your PVE defenses, I'm not sure I consider this a team-friendly build in the least.

I have a clone of Gunmage's DP/MM blaster build. That took an enormous investment in IO's to achieve. While it farms quite well on S/L farms, and it does pretty good on most PVE content as well, its nowhere near as effective at AV soloing as my Ill/Rad or several of my Dominator builds.

Like others have posted....I think your farming/PL claims are what are most in question. The rest can be chalked up to just Drain Psyche alone.

I guess I just don't get it. This thread started out as a very thinly veiled attempt of yet another "look at my blaster build" with the premise of "what else can do this?"

The premise was challenged and exposed as the lie that it is when viable contenders were dismissed with strong prejudice.

The tone of superiority was first set by the OP, especially considering his history on this subject. Any aggravated or harsh responses that don't stoop to personal insult are quite justified in my mind. The initial display of arrogance begs for it.

If something can do the majority of aspects you list, better, it is a trivialization of your accomplishments. Does it make them less amazing? Not particularly, but the problem lies with the following as well; You continue to ignore the point.

My apologies to your build, but it has nothing amazing going for it outside of Rain of Arrows, which is the only reason people play Archery from a mechanic point of view. Mental Manipulation is known predominantly for Drain Psyche, and a secondary of Psychic Shockwave. World of Confusion has limited application but it has it's moments.

You are being carried by Rain of Arrows and Drain Psyche, powers wise. Your individual skill may play party to the plot, but largely enough you already explained your combat method; Keep everything stacked together with Fences, keep yourself alive with the layered defenses + Using a Purple Inspiration to remain Soft Capped (How come you can use Purple Inspirations but using Red Inspirations is against the rules? Again, you're playing this to your specific advantage, which is ludicrous.), destroy with Rain of Arrows.

Rinse, Repeat. Nothing changes.

My stance, that I have detailed in my post, that you ignored because a Phillips Head Screwdriver is only capable of doing one singular task and nothing more, is that the Plant/Psi/Cold (or Fire) Dominator can do the majority of your tasks, better. But possibly, POSSIBLY cannot do one better. It all depends on a few aspects.

As for the individual who plays a Plant/Psi/Cold and says they probably (note probably, you're being a Screwdriver again with your narrowing), can't beat your run time on a GM. That's all they said. I disagree, because Drain Psyche is what allows you to solo a GM. This was proven in that debauchery of a thread you posted before. /Psi dominators have twice the base value power in their Drain Psyche, ontop of Sleet, and an arguably superior damage chain. Not to mention their pets, which ARE legal because a Dominator has the tools to sustain them. Perhaps not the Fly Trap, but there are ways to manipulate the field to the Dominator's advantage.

I think the joke here, besides the fact you are so adamant against being wrong and dismiss everything you possibly can, is that you set so many ham-fisted rules to defend yourself that you, at least in an illusionary attempt, made it 'impossible' to be contested. Yet I already have done so, and you continue to shrug it off as 'vindictive'.

If you are going to insist Rain of Arrows and Drain Psyche are not the main tools of your kit, you are free to demonstrate a run with their use minimalized to instead focus predominately on the other tools of your kit, which are, by your own words, Electric Fences, World of Confusion, and Psychic Shockwave.

In doing so, you will prove Rain of Arrows and Drain Psyche are simply different heads to your adjustable Screwdriver. However, we can stop here and know, for a fact, this is an impossibility. Archery survives off Rain of Arrows. Mental Manipulation lives predominately on Drain Psyche, with Psychic Shockwave being a good power, and World of Confusion being a niche power.

There is nothing wrong with a Phillips Head Screwdriver, but you shouldn't be as narrow-sighted as it is narrow in application.

When did I say that RoA and DP are anything besides my two best powers? They ARE my two best powers! I know that! You're coming across like, "You have to use your two best powers so it doesn't really mean anything." That just doesn't make any sense at all. Of course I use them both to my advantage. Otherwise, why would I play Archery/Mental? Why are you attaching a negative connotation to using the best tools available to accomplish a goal?

If anyone has an air of superiority and arrogance here, it's you. You are almost completely claiming that your character is better than mine. I have done no such thing at any point.

Why do you think that a Dominator will do better against 54x8 enemy groups? First of all, you won't necessarily be safer because your safety depends on keeping things completely locked down. You have no damage resistance to speak of, and only have defense against what, three different types? Second, you do not have any burst damage as powerful as ROA in your arsenal. You are much more reliant upon confuse than I am- Although I leverage it also, and I see nothing wrong with doing so on either count, it does lead to a decrease in rewards earned. Now, assuming that your superior confusion is enough to lead to on-par spawn melting speeds compared to Arch/Mental, which for argument's sake I will assume is true, you will still be earning less rewards per due to leveraging confusion so heavily. In other words, even if your Seeds of Confusion and higher mag WoC lead to on-par spawn melting speeds as my Blaster, it will still be a less efficient form of farming.

I use reds when I farm since that's a common practice- Anyone would be silly not to. I don't see anything wrong with soloing GM's and high level AV's with red inspirations. I use reds when I do the latter on my Warshade. I merely considered performing the task without any outside +dmg to be noteworthy since I have tested and confirmed that it's something I'm able to do... Just adding an extra element of challenge, that's all.

I'm not trying to dismiss any of your accomplishments, and I'm sorry if I've come across that way.

Thank Recluse that Reppu is here, because I cannot post all of that from my phone.

I am 100% behind Reppu on this one, which, considering my track record with both of you, should really be saying something. I really do think you're out of line here, THB. You have a good build that can do cool things, but the attitude I'm seeing here is certainly not something I can praise.

Again, you go RIGHT back to the farming point and nothing else, Screwdriver. One-Headed Screwdriver, even! This is not winning you ANY points. I already said you probably have the faster farm speed, but lose on every other point which you happily ignore.

Let me correct you: The Dominator does NOT rely on Seeds of Confusion. Even if a single application misses, due to having Destiny Rebirth or Destiny Barrier over Destiny Clarion, they have either superior total health or superior Defense/Wide (AKA: Not S/L/E, but global) Resistance. So even though you are spouting "Well the S/L Softcap means NOTHING ;_;", let me note the following; You aren't farming Malta or Carnies, so it's irrelevant.

In a designated farm designed to play your strengths, you fight what you are strong against. This means the Dominator would be duking it out with S/L mobs. And even then, since we'll be applying your same logic, Destiny Barrier + a Purple = Doing what you do. Your SOLE Advantage is your superior Resistance numbers, BUT the Dominator will hit the S/L Incarnate Soft Cap, rendering them further immune to Cascading Debuff Failure shenanigans, AND has Hoarfrost. You do not have anything remotely comparable to Hoarfrost.

Moving on to my original note, Seeds of Confusion is one tool in the arsenal. Sleet is one of the other dominate tools, not to mention Psychic Shockwave's additional AoE, and Carrion Creeper Explosions. Which not only provide multiple bodies to be targeted over you, but their AoE damage is absolutely silly when slotted properly.

The Dominator IS doing an extremely high amount of AoE damage, but I will agree not as high as your Burst AoE with Rain of Arrows. Does this matter? Probably only if you absolutely need everything to die right now this very instant. The Dominator isn't quite as concerned with as many RNG factors as your Blaster is when it comes to "How long do I have to wait until I can faceroll?"

Now, let's go toward the one other thing you noted; Seeds of Confusion causing gains to be less. This is so amateur it makes me sad. We've got years of research proving the additional killspeed given by Seeds of Confusion, combined with a Dominator being able to hit the benchmark damage needed to mitigate losses of Seeds of Confusion, greatly out-weighs the scant losses in 'immediate XP/Prestige/Influence/ gain.

But, again, I am not arguing your superiority in specific farming. You can keep that. It's not even a grand title. Brutes arguably do it better still anyway. I am arguing every other point, which you insist in ignoring.

Your Burst Damage: Rain of Arrows, Psychic Shockwave
Dominator Burst Damage: Carrion Creeper Explosion, Seeds of Confusion Alphas, Psychic Shockwave.

Just to note that the Dominator Burst IS there, all things said.

But, I'm arguing a point I do not need to argue; We'll say for the sake of argument you can do 1-50 somewhat faster than the Dominator. Let's give you that point and that point alone, for now.

Disprove the rest, please?

So 'around 2 hours' is now 2.5 hours. So your definition of 'around' is 30minutes. Your statements are outrageous, let alone stupid. I farm a cave in 35 minutes, 4.5 caves to 50. Do the math, and you aren't touching 35 minutes on a blaster. Your confidence severely outweighs your ego, not to mention your lack of actual proof. Your clearly making an obvious fool out of yourself via this thread, so bravo.

At no point did I even give the slightest mention that I am using a build for 'the build of all builds' I was simply scrutinizing your claims to your farm speed. Please add me and we can 'race' tonight, I am happy to do so. Anyone who wants to join to be an impartial judge are more than welcome to do so. @Cagney. <