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Posted on: 2012-05-19 22:40 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
I also don't ever clear the map on my brute. I like to run up 900-1000 tickets, then I get to the ticket cap with as much of the mission completion bonus as possible. When the map gets cleared to the point where you have to search around for the next thing to punch, you are losing efficiency by continuing.
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Originally Posted by Mr_Kingkillaha
I also don't ever clear the map on my brute. I like to run up 900-1000 tickets, then I get to the ticket cap with as much of the mission completion bonus as possible. When the map gets cleared to the point where you have to search around for the next thing to punch, you are losing efficiency by continuing.
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I agree. At the point where you have to even back-track over your own steps you're wasting time.
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That's ok for ticket farming. The problem is the person payin ~300mil is just going to afk and expects the whole map cleared
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Not necessarily. To me this is like organizing and starting a trial. All I want is a time frame, so I can wander around the house until the green button comes up. If I wanted someone to PL me while I am afk, all I'd want is to know how long until I need to be at the keyboard to exit and re-enter. If you say 30 minutes, then every 30 minutes I can come back, do the clicks, and then wander around again. If you say 20 minutes, that would work too. If you say 50 minutes, that would work too. Just knowing and honoring the time is what would be important, I'd think.
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Originally Posted by Dz131
That's ok for ticket farming. The problem is the person payin ~300mil is just going to afk and expects the whole map cleared
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Originally Posted by Dz131
That's ok for ticket farming. The problem is the person payin ~300mil is just going to afk and expects the whole map cleared
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Originally Posted by StratoNexus
Not necessarily. To me this is like organizing and starting a trial. All I want is a time frame, so I can wander around the house until the green button comes up. If I wanted someone to PL me while I am afk, all I'd want is to know how long until I need to be at the keyboard to exit and re-enter. If you say 30 minutes, then every 30 minutes I can come back, do the clicks, and then wander around again. If you say 20 minutes, that would work too. If you say 50 minutes, that would work too. Just knowing and honoring the time is what would be important, I'd think.
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Now, if it was 300 over X amount of time, that would be something else.
I would do it on an hourly basis and exclude the time i take to roll from the count
if a standard cave is about 35mins and costs about 300mill, thats approximately 510-515mill/hour
So I could point this maths out to the paying customer and then say charge a discounted price of 450mill/hour. This will maybe make them want to stay with me and then i can do my ticket farm thing and get my 15-18k tickets ON TOP of the 450mill i just made - WAY more profit for the farmer if they did it this way
The way i farm on union is the person/people im levelling bring a tray of reds and constantly feed me to keep me at the damage cap - the more they take part in the farm the faster i go - more xp no?
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Mathematically that works out. My experience has been that most people willing to pay 300mil don't care abit about tickets and is paying those prices because they can level up while doing something else. But w/e.
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Originally Posted by Black_Assassin
I would do it on an hourly basis and exclude the time i take to roll from the count
if a standard cave is about 35mins and costs about 300mill, thats approximately 510-515mill/hour So I could point this maths out to the paying customer and then say charge a discounted price of 450mill/hour. This will maybe make them want to stay with me and then i can do my ticket farm thing and get my 15-18k tickets ON TOP of the 450mill i just made - WAY more profit for the farmer if they did it this way The way i farm on union is the person/people im levelling bring a tray of reds and constantly feed me to keep me at the damage cap - the more they take part in the farm the faster i go - more xp no? |
I've got an MM that i no longer enjoy playing but want to take it to L50 for reasons of closure. Currently he's L39, how many runs and how much money would you estimate it take to hit L50?
L50s: Tanks: Cryofission - Ice/EM - Dr Celsius - Fire/Ice - Saint George - SD/SS | Controllers: Psichosis - Ill/Kin - Major Chaos - Ill/Stm | Scrappers - Neutron Crusader - DM/SR
Currently Levelling: Angelic Blade - BS/WP Scrapper | Seeds of Destruction - Plant/Kin Controller
Depends...if you're on freedom i suppose you could get there in 2-3 cave runs so 600-900mill max...
If you're on union and are in my SG you can just join one of our farmers and get there when you get there for free...
Just depends if your on freedom or a decent server
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Seeing powerlevelling being charged for is something I will never understand, it is much easier making an actual friend and getting it done for free surely?
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Originally Posted by Black_Assassin
If you're on union and are in my SG you can just join one of our farmers and get there when you get there for free...
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Originally Posted by PrincessDarkstar
Seeing powerlevelling being charged for is something I will never understand, it is much easier making an actual friend and getting it done for free surely?
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With it being free to play now, you can make friends with yourself by having two accounts.
No relying on other people. Granted you do have to sit there running that cave yourself.
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It's not that easy. Free to play means no IO's. I've tried PL'ing myself with an SO'd fire/fire tank on my free account, and it's pretty much a joke. +2's is all he can handle, and at that level, the speed is basically the same as doing the DFB. And in the 20's it becomes even slower than just playing the game. +4's are basically impossible, since I have to spend all my time just trying to survive. Even +2's are very tough. Compared with my IO'd fire/SS tank on my main account, it's night and day.|
Originally Posted by RevolverMike
With it being free to play now, you can make friends with yourself by having two accounts.
No relying on other people. Granted you do have to sit there running that cave yourself. |
I've pretty much given up on that idea at this point. If anybody has any suggestions on how to make it work, please let me know. Anybody want to PL me for free to prove how great of a farmer they are?
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Which is why i wont touch freedumb with a barge pole....ewwwww
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Originally Posted by PrincessDarkstar
Seeing powerlevelling being charged for is something I will never understand, it is much easier making an actual friend and getting it done for free surely?
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Roll a fire/kin/stone controller. Works fine on just SO. Its the old school farmer |
Originally Posted by Supermax
It's not that easy. Free to play means no IO's. I've tried PL'ing myself with an SO'd fire/fire tank on my free account, and it's pretty much a joke. +2's is all he can handle, and at that level, the speed is basically the same as doing the DFB. And in the 20's it becomes even slower than just playing the game. +4's are basically impossible, since I have to spend all my time just trying to survive. Even +2's are very tough. Compared with my IO'd fire/SS tank on my main account, it's night and day.
I've pretty much given up on that idea at this point. If anybody has any suggestions on how to make it work, please let me know. Anybody want to PL me for free to prove how great of a farmer they are? |
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I've played almost entirely on freedom and I've never paid for a pl. Its easy to make a friend and pl each other, but if someone were lazy and didnt have friends I guess paying for a pl is fine. I wouldnt do it but I don't tend to associate paid farmers with the negative stereotypes that freedom has. Its an service available not the sole means of doing so even though some act like it is to reinforce said stereotypes.
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Originally Posted by Black_Assassin
Which is why i wont touch freedumb with a barge pole....ewwwww
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It's about convenience more than anything else. You need to understand that the time someone spends PLing you is time that could be spent marketeering, ticket farming, villain/emp merit farming, etc. 300 million for a run is really breaking even for a farmer. Granted I PL my friends for free all the time, but I have no qualms hiring someone to PL one of my alts if it's needed. Waiting for a friend to PL you, they'll generally bring others along for the ride too which means less XP gain. It's also around their schedule, whereas hiring a farmer is around your schedule. Also, infamy really isn't that big of a deal. You can make 300 mil in a half hour or less just doing SSA's for villain merits.
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Originally Posted by PrincessDarkstar
Seeing powerlevelling being charged for is something I will never understand, it is much easier making an actual friend and getting it done for free surely?
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I can just go ply Cagney with alcohol and recieve PL if I want it!
It's like rocket fuel!! 
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Using which map?
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Originally Posted by doomrider
Roll a fire/kin/stone controller. Works fine on just SO. Its the old school farmer
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Originally Posted by doomrider
Roll a fire/kin/stone controller. Works fine on just SO. Its the old school farmer
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Originally Posted by CyberGlitch
Using which map?
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Freaks farm too.
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Originally Posted by Stone Daemon
Keeping in mind that you'll have to actually pay to unlock controllers in the first place, the battle maiden farm is great for that combo.
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I don't PL peeps any more. But, It's true that it's not about the tickets. If you want to farm tickets do so on your own time. Sure you can work out some sort of deal, like 5 ticket runs is worth 1 full run. I just think if your providing a service you need to do what the customers wants.
These are the reasons I don't PL. It's not worth the infl. And, if you play regularly you shouldn't need infl (I need more things to spend infl on than more infl).
I farm tickets for salvage (stored in 3 bases so I never buy salvage). I also farm pretige for new SGs (rarely charge).
There's nothing special about farming in this game. It's easy and everyone does it (to some point).
PS: not gonna give it up... but on any door mission a person can farm +7/8. Tough as nails to fight but unreal xp/infl/prestige output... and fun. I'm sure you're all smart enough to figure out the HOW. GL =)
PSS: fire/kins can farm almost anything (with Mez protection). W/o it just has to be things that rarely mez. Yes.. Battle maiden, Family, and Counsil are all fine.. Family can take some skill. Remember to set the mission for no bosses by spawning the map and then inviting your friends.
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I actually do have a fire/kin on the account as well. It was a paid account for years, so I do have a lot of stuff unlocked. Is the BM farm something I can do in AE? If not, what's the best AE farm to do with it?
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Originally Posted by Stone Daemon
Keeping in mind that you'll have to actually pay to unlock controllers in the first place, the battle maiden farm is great for that combo.
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Technically speaking, you can make an AE version, or sift through the thousands of other farms to find a similar one. However, I was referring to the one Maria Jenkins gives out. Unai Kemen also gives out a couple good maps.
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Originally Posted by Supermax
I actually do have a fire/kin on the account as well. It was a paid account for years, so I do have a lot of stuff unlocked. Is the BM farm something I can do in AE? If not, what's the best AE farm to do with it?
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THB's egomania aside, I hate to break it to you that a remotely decent built ill/rad not only can do all those things faster, safer, and generally better in most regards, but they also have better group synergy. (This is assuming perma phantom army for damage categories.)
And no, I do not care for your imanginary market.
Oh, And the ill/rad is generally cheaper.
I smash stuff to 750 tickets, complete and reset - the time the brute is taking to move throughout the rest of the cave i spend resetting. I earn ~9k tickets in the time it takes a cave farmer to earn the 1.5k tickets a full run will give
I can arguably make more inf from 9k tickets than i can say if i was on freedom and charging 350mill for a full run.
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