Admin channel event spam


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So, on the Freedom Friday on Facebook, I asked about this and was rather put off by the dismissive attitude I got from Frietag's response. So, I want to toss it out here to see if I'm crazy about this:

It would be nice if they'd make another channel for the GMs/Devs to use during live events rather than spamming the admin channel which is unfilterable and scrolls EVERY DAMN WINDOW. I'm not against them running live events. Quite the opposite, actually. But, if I'm not interested at the time, I'd like to be able to carry on chatting/RPing/etc without BIG BOLD RED TEXT scrolling all of my windows constantly.

Frietag's response was they want everyone to know what's going on so they can get involved, but, really, the comparison I used is it's like being at Denny's with your friends talking about a movie and suddenly the manager pops up and starts shouting about football.

Sure, announce the event in the admin channel when it starts and maybe a line now and then during to let people know, but using they go WAAAAAY overboard with the spam. It's obnoxiously disruptive. And being told basically "We know it's annoying but tough @#$%, it's for your own good" is extremely off-putting.




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I suppose the reason Admin is unfilterable is because they don't want people filtering it out and then getting mad at them when one day they'll say "We're trying to fix a problem with accounts being erased when the server goes down, please log out normally or your account will be erased! 20 minutes until shutdown"

It's very unlikely, but if it ever happens... ...!

Would be nice if they limited Admin broadcasts out of courtesy, I agree.



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Important system, security or update messages should be completely different to Event Chatter.

There's no reason why Event and Social contact from GMs can't be restricted to a GM/Event Tab if we want it. As important as getting the news out, there's a difference between important information and (what is effectively) a marketting ploy.


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Important system, security or update messages should be completely different to Event Chatter.

There's no reason why Event and Social contact from GMs can't be restricted to a GM/Event Tab if we want it. As important as getting the news out, there's a difference between important information and (what is effectively) a marketting ploy.
What is the Nemesis invasion marketing?


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Honestly, I agree with this: it does get annoying at times when the Admin channel is used for dev-run events.

I understand the usefulness of the Admin channel in terms of getting the point across (especially for things like maintenance announcements), but when you have events like the dev-controlled portion of the Operation Fallen Thunder event, it's a constant barrage of multi-line Nemesis or other sig-character banter displayed across all tabs in all zones and instances. It becomes redundant to read the same quips 2+ times over whether or not you're participating in the event in the first place, and all of it disrupts the information players not interested in the event want to see, such as their own RP or even their combat logs.

I understand wholeheartedly that you, the devs and CRs, want to get yourselves and the players involved in the game. But when Admin text comes up, I'm personally expecting a substantial announcement involving the game's nuts and bolts rather than having it used simply for entertainment value.



(The issue that my computer lags out whenever I try to run into the gathering crowds of any zone invasion event, thus discouraging me from participating in them... is another story altogether.)


 

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I like them If you dont like them, they're pretty easy to avoid/ignore.

As long as the majority like it, i dont see any problem with it.


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Using it to let everyone know an event's going on or servers are going down? Good.

Spamming us with ridiculous and unimportant shout outs and banter that gets inflicted on all channels, regardless of if you're involved or not? Annoyingly bad.

If you're going to horribly RP Nemesis, or do a shout out and chat it up with folks, please use Broadcast or any other form of chat. I understand you want to get word out that something's happening. But having Nemesis talk about his steam powered computer crashing, or having a rep give a shout out to [player name] on every player's channel, on all their channels, it just gets annoying and distracting from what players might be involved in.

This isn't the first time players have brought up this issue, either.


 

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Lighten up, people. It couldn't possibly interfere with your playstyle THAT much.

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Using it to let everyone know an event's going on or servers are going down? Good.

Spamming us with ridiculous and unimportant shout outs and banter that gets inflicted on all channels, regardless of if you're involved or not? Annoyingly bad.
This would be my reaction to it Assuming I was actually on any server while one of these were going on...

Announce the event, and occasionally remind people it's going on (for the people that log in after it starts), but don't use it as a general chat channel. It's just bad form.


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Lighten up, people. It couldn't possibly interfere with your playstyle THAT much.
When I'm having to constantly scroll through bold red spam to see chat that I've missed during RP? Yes, it does interfere with my playstyle THAT much. It's not a big thing to ask. Lighten up, someone asking for a minor courtesy isn't going to interfere with your playstyle THAT much.




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Originally Posted by Tyger42 View Post
So, on the Freedom Friday on Facebook, I asked about this and was rather put off by the dismissive attitude I got from Frietag's response. So, I want to toss it out here to see if I'm crazy about this:

It would be nice if they'd make another channel for the GMs/Devs to use during live events rather than spamming the admin channel which is unfilterable and scrolls EVERY DAMN WINDOW. I'm not against them running live events. Quite the opposite, actually. But, if I'm not interested at the time, I'd like to be able to carry on chatting/RPing/etc without BIG BOLD RED TEXT scrolling all of my windows constantly.

Frietag's response was they want everyone to know what's going on so they can get involved, but, really, the comparison I used is it's like being at Denny's with your friends talking about a movie and suddenly the manager pops up and starts shouting about football.

Sure, announce the event in the admin channel when it starts and maybe a line now and then during to let people know, but using they go WAAAAAY overboard with the spam. It's obnoxiously disruptive. And being told basically "We know it's annoying but tough @#$%, it's for your own good" is extremely off-putting.
Except your analogy would be better if you stated the Manager of Denny's came into the main room and yelled "Apple Pie will be going on sale in 10 minutes!" The admin channel is used to announce ya know.. game stuff not totally random stuff like "woohoo my team just won the superbowl!"

Concur with people who say - lighten up


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Given how infrequently devs drop in to do an event live, I think you can put up with them for the hour or two they're there doing fun stuff for the game like invasions, costume contests, and playing frisbee in atlas park.


 

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Except your analogy would be better if you stated the Manager of Denny's came into the main room and yelled "Apple Pie will be going on sale in 10 minutes!" The admin channel is used to announce ya know.. game stuff not totally random stuff like "woohoo my team just won the superbowl!"
That analogy doesn't work, because they don't just announce the start of the event. Or even the start and occasional reminders. They CONSTANTLY SPAM THE DAMN CHANNEL through the entire event. It's more like: "APPLE PIE WILL BE GOING ON SALE IN 10 MINUTES! THIS IS GREAT APPLE PIE! JOHN SMITH JUST BOUGHT A SLICE! THE WILSON FAMILY JUST BOUGHT A WHOLE PIE! COME ON GUYS AND GET IN ON THIS! AND HERE'S ANOTHER FAMILY FOR A PIE!" etc, etc, etc for the course of the entire sale. Oh, AND SHOUTED AT THE TOP OF THEIR LUNGS SO IT DROWNS OUT EVERYONE ELSE AND YOU CAN'T JUST TUNE IT OUT.




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That analogy doesn't work, because they don't just announce the start of the event. Or even the start and occasional reminders. They CONSTANTLY SPAM THE DAMN CHANNEL through the entire event. It's more like: "APPLE PIE WILL BE GOING ON SALE IN 10 MINUTES! THIS IS GREAT APPLE PIE! JOHN SMITH JUST BOUGHT A SLICE! THE WILSON FAMILY JUST BOUGHT A WHOLE PIE! COME ON GUYS AND GET IN ON THIS! AND HERE'S ANOTHER FAMILY FOR A PIE!" etc, etc, etc for the course of the entire sale. Oh, AND SHOUTED AT THE TOP OF THEIR LUNGS SO IT DROWNS OUT EVERYONE ELSE AND YOU CAN'T JUST TUNE IT OUT.
Really?? Wow... cuz uhmm I have no problem tuning it out.
See big red announcement...read it ..make sure it's not like "servers are going down..." and continue to play.


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Really?? Wow... cuz uhmm I have no problem tuning it out.
See big red announcement...read it ..make sure it's not like "servers are going down..." and continue to play.
How much time do you spend, say, RPing and trying to keep up with the chat channel? Or in a trial with someone giving instructions/trying to give them yourself? Or any other situation where you have to keep up with already moderate to fast moving chat?




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That analogy doesn't work, because they don't just announce the start of the event. Or even the start and occasional reminders. They CONSTANTLY SPAM THE DAMN CHANNEL through the entire event. It's more like: "APPLE PIE WILL BE GOING ON SALE IN 10 MINUTES! THIS IS GREAT APPLE PIE! JOHN SMITH JUST BOUGHT A SLICE! THE WILSON FAMILY JUST BOUGHT A WHOLE PIE! COME ON GUYS AND GET IN ON THIS! AND HERE'S ANOTHER FAMILY FOR A PIE!" etc, etc, etc for the course of the entire sale. Oh, AND SHOUTED AT THE TOP OF THEIR LUNGS SO IT DROWNS OUT EVERYONE ELSE AND YOU CAN'T JUST TUNE IT OUT.

Really?

I just tap the letter "C" and my chat boxes go away. You can't be irritated by a message you can't even see.

I guess you'd prefer if our devs decided to make those non important announcements like Cryptic has decided to do in their games. Where you get an annoying message IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR SCREEN that says something like:


@TYGER42 HAS OPENED A SUPER PACK AND UNLOCKED A BLACK WOLF!!!


@HYPERSTRIKE HAS OPENED A SUPER PACK AND UNLOCKED A COSTUME PIECE!!!

@ANOTHERSTRANGERIDON'TGIVEADAMNABOUT HAS OPENED A SUPER PACK AND UNLOCKED AN ATO!!!


on and on



Now that's $##@%$@# annoying as hell. Some red text in a chat box doesn't even register on the annoyance chart. I'm sorry to hear it bothers you so much.


 

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How much time do you spend, say, RPing and trying to keep up with the chat channel? Or in a trial with someone giving instructions/trying to give them yourself? Or any other situation where you have to keep up with already moderate to fast moving chat?
RPing.. none...tried it years ago...didn't like it.
Trials...I do roughly 7-10 a day and have not had this interfere one bit.
Other situation...hasn't bothered me in the slightest.


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Really?

I just tap the letter "C" and my chat boxes go away. You can't be irritated by a message you can't even see.
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Think you missed the OP's point. It's rather hard to RP and/or use chat channels if you make the chat boxes go away. (Sure, you can RP in local - which tends to be somewhat annoying to anyone nearby unless you're in a mission or your base.)

There's event-specific chat that *doesn't* spam all the channels. I'm fairly sure what he's asking for is for live events and non-vital chat (such as:



) to be moved to *that* and for Admin to be left to "Emergency maintenance, server going down in one minute, eject, eject, eject!"


 

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How much time do you spend, say, RPing and trying to keep up with the chat channel? Or in a trial with someone giving instructions/trying to give them yourself? Or any other situation where you have to keep up with already moderate to fast moving chat?
I was in the live invasions last year and it was hard to keep track of our league that was PARTICIPATING in the event. It was really, really annoying how they were running two or three or four events simultaneously (two blue, two red) but it all looked the same.

Also I don't like it flaring up ALL my windows. If the only thing in a tab is rewards, or black market, make an exception.


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That seems...excessive
Eh, I could see it happening if I had a constant influx of new 50s. As it stands, I did like 15 or 20 each day during the first week of i20.


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Really?

I just tap the letter "C" and my chat boxes go away. You can't be irritated by a message you can't even see.
And what effing part of "trying to chat/rp/etc" didn't you get?




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RPing.. none...tried it years ago...didn't like it.
Then the grounds for my complaint is irrelevant to you and you have no place to say tell me suck it up it's not that bad...




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