COV Edition Cape in Costume Creator

Quite true. Not only can perspectives change, but also changes to the game, the playerbase or other factors can be items that might cause people to re-consider previous thought processes.

For example, new tech or new items being added to the market could cause people to re-examine their thoughts on how certain systems are working. Based on that they may decide that things that they were previously happy with the way they worked could be improved upon by making modifications.

EDIT: As far as the "don't make decisions in a vacuum" statement, I don't think I've ever thought that the Paragon Studios team did that. There are too many diverse personalities among the staff for them all to be not having different ideas and perspectives when it comes to decision making.

sort of a Perspectives in Paragon Matter situation.

"Maybe" is still negative when someone asks for something

Alternatively, we're getting the Cape of the Two Winds in Issue 24.

Better than the Cape of the Number Two Winds.

--NT

Since we've had ustreams, we've had Positron come up and say that for the Prestige Power Slide (another collectors edition piece along with the cape) that "certain people" would have to no longer be working at PS.

And it has been said flat out in the past that anything you paid *extra* for (IE, collectors editions: Arachnos cape, Cape of the Four Winds, power slide) would not be *given* away free. (Unlike, for instance, the preorder sprints or the Arachnos helmets - didn't pay *extra,* just paid *ahead.*) I haven't heard that either cape fell under "certain people" not being there, though it might.

Those are the only definite negatives I can think of hearing related to this. So, hey, if they show up in the store, I (owner of both COH and COV CEs) am *perfectly* fine with it (and am surprised it took this long.)

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Ditto.

As the owner of both collector editions, I would have zero problems with the following:

CoH Collector's Pack - 800 Paragon Points:

• Prestige Power Slide Sprint power
• Cape of the Four Winds
• VIP/Destined One/Praetoria's Son/Praetoria's Daughter Badge

CoV Collector's Pack - 800 Paragon Points:

• Arachnos Cape
• Arachnos Chest Symbol

Edit:
Also missing from the Paragon Market are the Good vs Evil Edition costumes, so the following bundle could be added:

• Justice Costume Set - 400 Paragon Points
• Sinister Costume Set - 400 Paragon Points

Triumph: White Succubus: 50 Ill/Emp/PF Snow Globe: 50 Ice/FF/Ice Strobe: 50 PB Shi Otomi: 50 Ninja/Ninjistu/GW Stalker My other characters

They're made in hermetically sealed jars filled with an inert gas, such as Impervon or Unobtainom.

this is all i wanted from that, but theres no way in hell i would pay $100+ on amazon for coh collectors edition for the badge lol

i support snow globe and his suggestion to add it to the paragon market

Well, we can look at the "Freem Fifteen" (the fifteen developers that were left working on CoH/V after Cryptic reduced the team by ~75% in 2006.) *:

1. Positron (Lead Designer)
2. BAB (Animations & FX artist)
3. Castle (Powers)
4. Ghost Widow (Programmer)
5. War Witch (Zone creation)
6. Constellation replaced by Hero 1 (Story bible)
7. JLove (Costumes)
8. Ken Morse (Art Lead)
9. Nick replaced by Don Pham (Environmental/3D artist)
10. Brett replaced by Graham
11. Blue Steel (Design support)
12. Serdar replaced by Mynx (Producer)
13. Richard Higbee (AP/Build Engineer)
14. Aaron Brady (Lead programmer)
15. Garth Gillespie (who moved over to Core Tech before the acquisition)

* Note: This apparently doesn't include all of the Producers, the Production Staff (as Jesse Caceres has been around since 2004), or the Marketing Staff.

Of those, the following are pretty much known to not be with the company still, or not involved with the choice as they were replacements:

1. BAB
2. Castle
3. Constellation replaced by Hero 1
4. Ken Morse
5. Nick replaced by Don Pham
6. Brett replaced by Graham
7. Serdar replaced by Mynx

That leaves the following:

1. Positron
2. Ghost Widow
3. War Witch
4. Blue Steel
5. Richard Higbee
6. Aaron Brady
7. Garth Gillespie

My personal bet is that it is someone in Production, Business Management, or Marketing, not the actual development team.

Yeah, I'd have to agree.

Triumph: White Succubus: 50 Ill/Emp/PF Snow Globe: 50 Ice/FF/Ice Strobe: 50 PB Shi Otomi: 50 Ninja/Ninjistu/GW Stalker My other characters

Agreed with all of the above. Well put.

Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

IIRC the one and possibly only thing the devs have said that is never going to happen, rather than being time intensive is the full powerset respec (respeccing a willpower tanker into a stone tanker etc.).

I could go with 400 for the CoV stuff.

I think their position on offline SG invites also qualifies. As we were told if they added such a feature they would design it so we cannot send SG invites to our own characters on the same account.

The reason I said 800 for the CE is simple: the retail packages were $20 more in store, but these wouldn't include the physical items.

The GvE costumes, while they could be merged to 400, I thought it would be close to the price of an expansion pack. However, I forgot about the GvE Jumpjet & Pocket D VIP pass. I'm not that bound to saying the Justice & Sinister costumes should be sold separately.

They were sold as a physical and virtual item combination, there wasn't an item pack like the GvE set. My suggested prices were based on "no physical goods".

Triumph: White Succubus: 50 Ill/Emp/PF Snow Globe: 50 Ice/FF/Ice Strobe: 50 PB Shi Otomi: 50 Ninja/Ninjistu/GW Stalker My other characters

/signed

Sounds more like we're only getting two winds to me.

You can still get the CoV Collector's Edition box on Amazon for around $10. Link

Includes 1 month of Game Time too.

Either way, I wouldn't mind seeing both in the Paragon Market. I mean, they're selling pretty much everything else (costume pieces, IOs, powersets, character services, etc) so why not this?

Anything to bring more money into the game right?

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Sure thing

I've heard that CoH: Collector's Editions pop up in Big Lots from time to time. Sadly there aren't any close to me

The ones I've seen online are usually in the $100 range - and people do buy them.

People have argued that it's okay to sell IOs on the Paragon Market because the money is going to Paragon Studios directly instead of the gold farmers who sell influence.

I don't see why the same argument doesn't apply here.

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This can't be done as the cape in question was a paid extra. The Dev's have adopted the stance that any items people paid extra for will not be given away for free. This is something I agree with, but it doesn't stop them selling the stuff to others.