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Praetoria 1-20 should be free-access content. The zones are deader than dead, some great story content is going fallow and if I were someone to purchase the content now I'd feel honestly cheated - because it's just a slog to go through.

Opening it up to free players would mean there'd be a bit more life there. Probably not much more thanks to the DIB trial, but as it stands it's only slightly more active than Boomtown.


 

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the main reason the zones are dead IMO is that you are literally locked out of all other game content until lvl 20, the furthest you can go is to pocket d

while if you are hero or villain you can go almost anywhere including praetoria


 

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A freemium first time player mistakenly going into the barren, more difficult content of Praetoria would probably be the worst way to retain that player.


 

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A freemium first time player mistakenly going into the barren, more difficult content of Praetoria would probably be the worst way to retain that player.
That place is bad for player retention regardless of veteran status. There's a reason it's deader than dead, and it ain't because people can't access it.


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I would like to play it, but I like to team.
If there were enough players to team there I would do it.

but letting free players access it won't solve the problem.
double XP in Praetoria might do it

but really the problem is that the bulk of players will go where they can team. With Praetoria divided out you will have either it or the lower levels of Paragon dead. The only real solution is to let players go back and forth, but that would be weird with the storyline


 

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I would hope that the devs would work more on getting more population Villain side vs worrying about Praetoria. Besides, how relevant will Praetoria even be once we've finally finished with Tyrant and we're dealing with Battalion?


 

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I would hope that the devs would work more on getting more population Villain side vs worrying about Praetoria. Besides, how relevant will Praetoria even be once we've finally finished with Tyrant and we're dealing with Battalion?
There have been some hints that a liberated Praetoria will help us against the Battalion.


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If DfB could be accessed from there, or it had its own version of DfB, it would be fine. The reason it is not played is because the mobs are harder (much harder), and the leveling is a bit slower. The stories there are much better than the 1-20 content for much of the rest of the game.

As much as I like DfB, it has hurt the low level game. It can be run from 1-20 pretty easy, and a lot of people just do that.


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Praetoria's great... for VIP soloers.

Yeah, I have to agree that it's time to open it up to Free players. Also, the restriction on leaving until you're 20 needs to go away. It only impedes grouping.


 

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Having Praetoria as a separate faction/zone which splits up the player base was a horrid idea. It has to be right up there with Han shooting first.

I guess the devs didn't learn with villains and splitting the player base there. They compounded the issues with Praetoria.

For me, those zones are a tremendous waste of resources. Even way back I was hoping they would just add several new TFs all with original art and ideas. Nope. We're bogged right back down into this linear, continuous Coming Storm/Praetoria non-sense.

Imagine if they put in those arcs into Atlas/Kings and Mercy/Port Oakes?! Revamp the starter zones and add new TFs/trials with original art/maps. Maybe something a bit more stunning and epic than a city or caves or warehouse would've been nice.

Ah well. I like some of the aspects of GR but a lot of it seems like an epic waste IMO.


 

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Imagine if they put in those arcs into Atlas/Kings and Mercy/Port Oakes?! Revamp the starter zones
nah that'll never happen


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Having Praetoria as a separate faction/zone which splits up the player base was a horrid idea.
It'd be hard to tell the stories there in the same way if it was just Primals going there to help out.


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I think the other problem is that they shot themselves in the foot with regards the main reason you'd play through Praetoria.

To get the Villain ATs/Hero ATs onto the opposite side without having to wait 4 days.

Now the new tutorial lets you make that choice out of the gate or if you skip the tutorial, at the creation screen.

So the reason why quite a few people would play the content was completely nullified (much to my own personal enjoyment, the storylines in Praetoria were good but the difficulty curve was way off for what it should be).


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The reason it is not played is because the mobs are harder (much harder), .
::shrugs:: never noticed ::shrugs::

I really didn't find the praetorian content to be all that challenging. I've done a couple brutes and a stalker through and it wasn't really any issue.



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It'd be hard to tell the stories there in the same way if it was just Primals going there to help out.
The beauty is, the stories could have been completely changed

Perhaps the Praetorian content could've been introduced via trials and we could have done away with the Prae only zones.


 

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It'd be hard to tell the stories there in the same way if it was just Primals going there to help out.
I agree with this, and imo Preatoria has some of the best stories in the game.


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Controllers were a pain to solo with though, you had atleast 1 faction whose lts and bosses would completely ignore mez at a level where mez and subpar damage is about the only thing going for a Controller solo


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::shrugs:: never noticed ::shrugs::

I really didn't find the praetorian content to be all that challenging. I've done a couple brutes and a stalker through and it wasn't really any issue.
It was nothing to my scrappers or brutes, and I bet it would be easy with stalkers now. What about all the other ATs in the game?


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It was nothing to my scrappers or brutes, and I bet it would be easy with stalkers now. What about all the other ATs in the game?
I'm sure I wouldn't have a problem with using a blaster, but thats sorta a loaded answer since... well I've been playing a blaster since I started the game. I've become very proficient at playing them.

Not saying I'm the best mind you since I dont tend to crunch numbers or min/max my toons but its a play style that I'm most comfortable playing which pretty funny since I play my scrappers like blappers



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I agree with this, and imo Preatoria has some of the best stories in the game.
Yeah stories which most new players won't complete, because they will see the zone is dead for an mmo and then re-roll where there are actual other players.

Praetoria was a great idea before they opened up all the ATs AT THE TUTORIAL.

Now . . . it's pointless for teaming.


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Yeah stories which most new players won't complete, because they will see the zone is dead for an mmo and then re-roll where there are actual other players.

Praetoria was a great idea before they opened up all the ATs AT THE TUTORIAL.

Now . . . it's pointless for teaming.
I don't disagree. As much as I like those stories, it has been forever since I made a toon there. Well, I am sure they know it is dead, and will take the steps to fix it....soon(tm)


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Originally Posted by Aura_Familia View Post
Yeah stories which most new players won't complete, because they will see the zone is dead for an mmo and then re-roll where there are actual other players.

Praetoria was a great idea before they opened up all the ATs AT THE TUTORIAL.

Now . . . it's pointless for teaming.
With respect Aura, Praetoria was "dead" long before they opened up the AT's at the tutorial. I remember people complaining the zones were empty as early as Jan 2011, and most of the people that were running in Praetoria were complaining about the difficulty and excessive ambushes.


 

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I always thought Praetoria could have made use of a few task forces. Throw in some well-written task forces and you might see some activity there.