Moonstruck


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As none of you know, I spend more time looking around than I actually do killing all the things, so let it be known that this theory has been formulated by countless secon--minut-- HOURS staring at the moon.

This is my theory about why our moon is seemingly diffused.

I think it got blown up.

Does this look like a moon not made debris to you?




And thus I give up my dream of a moon base and will now invest my wishes and hopes into a Lost Dinosaur Island.

EDIT: quick note: the moon is pretty much always see-through, regardless of the zone. DA was just chosen because that' where I happened to be at the time.


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That's a view of the moon from a place that might be somewhat dimensionally out of phase. Is it ghosted from other zones? I've never noticed. Perhaps it's too far away and doesn't fully draw in.

Doesn't it move the wrong direction, too?


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Farewell is like the end
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oh, it's always see through! I just happened to get a nice big screenshot in DA instead of another zone.

I have to confess I have no idea what direction the moon moves in, which is probably sign 1 I'm going to die in the wilderness.


In the room the women come and go
Talking of Michelangelo.

 

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Originally Posted by MisterMagpie View Post
oh, it's always see through! I just happened to get a nice big screenshot in DA instead of another zone.

I have to confess I have no idea what direction the moon moves in, which is probably sign 1 I'm going to die in the wilderness.
Hahaha. That's okay. When you are dead, the moon ceases to move.

Also, I like your opening words in the OP.

Hmm... you may be on to something here.
It is possible it has just had an intangibility effect placed on it... But why??


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oh, it's always see through! I just happened to get a nice big screenshot in DA instead of another zone.

I have to confess I have no idea what direction the moon moves in, which is probably sign 1 I'm going to die in the wilderness.
In the real world it moves from east to west, like the sun. IIRC, in-game it moves perpendicular to the sun, or else west to east. It's been awhile since I paid attention to it, but I recall being disturbed by the movement of celestial bodies once upon a time.


Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound

 

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Just me, or is the moon getting bigger and/or closer with each new update or zone? O.o


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Just me, or is the moon getting bigger and/or closer with each new update or zone? O.o
The moon gets larger every time they nerf accuracy.


 

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Just me, or is the moon getting bigger and/or closer with each new update or zone? O.o
There was one time where the moon got bugged and was humongous. There was also a second moon.


 

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There was one time where the moon got bugged and was humongous. There was also a second moon.
That was no moon.


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With the way the DA war walls blend in with the sky, that actually looks like the moon is inside the zone


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It is possible it has just had an intangibility effect placed on it... But why??
It's a cloaking shield built by the 5th Column to hide their base on the dark side of the moon. Any day now they'll be launching space zeppelins to come home and rebuild the Reich. They come in peace.


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That's not a moon. That's a space station!



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And thus I give up my dream of a moon base and will now invest my wishes and hopes into a Lost Dinosaur Island.
I cannot begin to describe the disappointment I felt when I discovered that Jurassik was NOT a giant dinosaur. Somebody really failed the truth in advertising test on that one.

Maybe we need to test the solidity of the moon. I know with a guy with a big laser...


 

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There are two moon textures. They introduced a bigger one for the Halloween Haunted House and are using it for DA. Both moons are inexplicably transparent. Sometimes both moons are bugged and appear at the same time one inside the other. The path of the moon is indeed not east to west. And, it's shadows do not track where it is in the sky by necessity, otherwise, you'd have moon shadows racing across the ground faster than you can sprint.

Good night, moon.


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Sometimes both moons are bugged and appear at the same time one inside the other.
The first time I saw that I was really confused, assuming something was seriously wrong with my graphics card. It seems as though it happens at least once a week for me, lately.


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It's a cloaking shield built by the 5th Column to hide their base on the dark side of the moon. Any day now they'll be launching space zeppelins to come home and rebuild the Reich. They come in peace.
And if not from there, they have that secret base in Antarctica that successfully fought off Rear Admiral Byrd.

Sorry, I'm such a big sucker for Nazi UFO stories....


 

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If I recall correctly, the moon in game actually travels from south to north in the sky, which of course, is completely physically inaccurate. During the Halloween, the game clock is locked to midnight, so the moon doesn't move. (And it's always night.) The fixed moon in Dark Astoria, though, is not due to the game clock being locked. The game clock is running; I think it's probably just fixed to not move across the sky.


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If I recall correctly, the moon in game actually travels from south to north in the sky, which of course, is completely physically inaccurate.
Indeed it does (or the reverse, I forget which). And as I pointed out the first time this was brought to my attention, it's not just physically inaccurate, it's physically *impossible*. If the moon had been magically teleported into a polar orbit at the launch of the game, we'd have about another month or so before it crashed into the earth.

As for the moon made of debris thing, unfortunately that's not very physically realistic either. The problem is that, if you blow up or otherwise turn something like the moon into debris, it's not just going to sit there as a cloud. Each individual piece will be moving according to its own momentum and the influence of gravity, and you're quite quickly going to get one of two outcomes. If you didn't blow it up hard enough to overcome the moon's self gravity, the pieces will relatively quickly reassemble under their mutual gravitational influence. It certainly wouldn't look the same, but it would become a solid body once more. If you *did* blow it up hard enough, the pieces aren't going to remain in the same area like that, but will spread out into a ring around the earth, escape into interplanetary space, or both, depending on exactly how you blow it up. Bottom line, if it's bound enough to remain as a distinct object in the sky at all, it won't remain as a more or less unchanged debris cloud.

Of course, the CoH universe has magic, so I suppose the explanation could just be 'a wizard did it', but barring that it's not going to happen. Sorry!


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Of course, the CoH universe has magic, so I suppose the explanation could just be 'a wizard did it', but barring that it's not going to happen. Sorry!
No, if it's the CoH universe, the explanation is 'the Well did it'


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Indeed it does (or the reverse, I forget which). And as I pointed out the first time this was brought to my attention, it's not just physically inaccurate, it's physically *impossible*. If the moon had been magically teleported into a polar orbit at the launch of the game, we'd have about another month or so before it crashed into the earth.
*huh* i thought a polar orbit was quite possible. After all, other satellites follow polar orbits. Then again i'm not enough of an expert on orbital mechanics to know why polar orbits are impossible for larger things like the moon. Still, it would take a wizard to casually change the orbit like that if it was recent. i always thought that the Primal Earth moon must've always been like that, at least for recorded history, since no mention of the odd orbit is made anywhere in game or in the lore.


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The 'Moon' is in fact a large paper disc with the moon-like image painted on, in low earth orbit. It has been there since the real thing was destroyed in an alien invasion in 1973. Its purpose is to allow all the heroes who have moon-related powers to keep fighting crime.
It is not really a secret and the transparency is fairly obvious, but no one mentions it out of consideration for the previously mentioned supers.


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*huh* i thought a polar orbit was quite possible. After all, other satellites follow polar orbits. Then again i'm not enough of an expert on orbital mechanics to know why polar orbits are impossible for larger things like the moon. Still, it would take a wizard to casually change the orbit like that if it was recent. i always thought that the Primal Earth moon must've always been like that, at least for recorded history, since no mention of the odd orbit is made anywhere in game or in the lore.
From what I understand, the reason you get these sorts of effects at all is that satellites/moons don't orbit planets in isolation. All the various subtle shifts in planet/etc orbits are due to perturbations from other bodies in the system. If you just had a single central object orbited by a single planet/satellite/whatever, the orbit wouldn't change (barring non-point-source and relativistic effects, anyway). I haven't dug into the math behind this particular effect, but I would guess that the reason we can put artificial satellites into polar orbits is that they're orbiting close enough to earth that the perturbations are so small relative to the earth's gravity that they'd take a much longer time to develop. Plus, satellites have station-keeping capability, so as long as the fuel holds out they can keep their orbit. I'd guess that in these low orbits, perturbations from the earth's slight departures from a sphere (and maybe even atmospheric drag, not sure) dominate over the external perturbations that would cause such an effect.


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I'd say it's more that the lifetime of a typical satellite mission is too short to see any significant perturbation. Sure, Primal Earth's fake moon may start visibly deviating from its 24-hour polar orbit sometime in the mid 40th century, causing the heroes and villains of the day to engage in a tug-of-war event, but it probably won't happen anytime soon.

Also, satellites and Primal Earth's moon have thrusters to make course corrections.