Why is there not a power slide option to buy?

I accidentally used power slide last week on a new character. I am usually better about leaving sprint and dumping slide, but this time I got it backwards.

I could not possibly care less if it were sold on the market. I can't even stand the other alternative sprints. They just fill up my power trays with useless rubbish whenever I respec.

Sorta funny no one brought up the face that: those of us in beta in 2004 got a specific flavored sprint power depending on which retailer we bought our game from.

Since then, they've been released to the public in general. All 4 of them every account. I think it was a paragon reward? I dunno.

My point: it's already been done



Mr. True Shot.

Pet Peeve #8274

For the record, the name of the power is Prestige Power Slide. This is a Prestige Power called Slide, not a Prestigious power called Power Slide. It's just like the pre-order Sprints: Prestige Power Rush, Prestige Power Quick, etc. You don't call those Power Rush and Power Quick do you?

I, personally, stand by the exclusivity of the collectors' editions. They're sold under the premise of exclusivity in the first place, and customers pay a premium for that. It really cheapens their value to turn those items into an unlimited resale cash-cow in the digital market.

Re: the issue of people claiming 'exclusivity' does not imply permanency, it does in the gaming industry, when you're talking about collectors' editions.

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My 2 ¢,

As someone who got 3 copies of the CE edition of EBay before finally getting one that with an unused activation code; I wholeheartedly support putting the CE items on the market (either singly or as a package) or the paragon rewards table.

Its been years since anyone could buy access to these items outside secondary markets. I say they've had their exclusivity. The Power Slide and Cape of Four Winds both deserve wider use than they currently get.

I bought those perks, through the full CE, when I started playing.
And then I managed to buy some of the Hero Gear Kits (at the first Boston M&G) for a few good friends and my wife...

And I absolutely wish they would put, at least, the Prestige Power Slide up for sale... And I'd like to see the Cape Of The Four Winds and whatever else they'd care to sell as well.

The exclusivity is for that period of time that it was exclusive, and nothing more. I mean... turn around and sell it cheaper a week or a month later... eh, that's obviously not so cool... But years later? A sliding power and a cape? Why would anyone get indignant about such a thing...
Buying anything off-market at a high-price is a gamble, as you never know when the item, or its contents, may become officially available again.

Ghost Falcon, I think it's fine to sell the other items without selling that Badge (I also, personally, have no objection to selling the badge or including it as a perk for buying a part or all of the items).

I just figured I would chime in with my feedback regarding this.

Also, thank you very much for explaining the issue, because I too was confused by comments we've heard about the subject!

Lisa comes into thread with a serious look on her face....While I do not have the Power Slide and the Four Winds cape, my better half does. He does not use the slide at all, and only one of his many toons has the Four Winds cape.

He never reads the forums, so I asked him his feelings about the Devs putting the exclusive goodies up for sale in the Paragon Market. He said he would have no problems with it.

And if I had bought the collectors edition when he bought his, I know I would not have a problem seeing these up for sale in the market.

That said...impish grin...I want that Arachnos Cape ! I would seriously pay twenty bucks for that cape.

Lisa

I have bought FIVE CEs for my 2 accounts and as gifts to friends and I'm all for releasing Slide through the market.

So, answer this, Paragon Studios: if every player that was playing CoH at the time that the CE came out wanted to buy a copy, would you have denied them because you wanted to create a limited exclusivity between haves and have-nots? Or would you have happily printed out enough copies for everyone who wanted to give you an extra $50 for it? If the latter, then it was never really a "Collector's Edition" but a "Deluxe Edition" and continuing the limited exclusivity makes no sense. Let others buy into the Deluxe Version of powers.

But even if it was meant to be limited, wouldn't it still be limited because there aren't any more boxes being made and no more Heroclix figurines being made?

And wouldn't it still be limited by those willing to purchase Slide v. those who won't or can't?

And if this is meant to be a Collector's Edition... does this mean it's OK now for me to sell off my second account on EBay? After all, the usual meaning of "Collector's Edition" is that I own it... not you, despite your EULA. You violated your EULA which normally gives you ownership of everything by labeling something you sold me as "Collector's." If you still own it... I didn't collect it. And normally, as a collector, *I* own it. And I can sell it to other people for profit, because a "Collector's Item" goes up in value over time. Those few boxes that are still out there are going for $100... the collector's value has increased. So, now, I want to sell my Collector's Edition to someone else for $100... but how can I sell Slide once it's been attached to my account. Obviously, this is tacit permission from you, maintaining that this is a Collector's Edition, that I can now sell off my account on EBay without any repercussions.

Of course, the easy out is to create a different version of Slide... one without the aura and put that on the market and all things are reconciled. In fact, I'd happily buy a version of Slide without that aura which is almost as blindingly garish as SuperSpeed's. I love Slide in that it reduces the motion sickness inducing jiggling of runners. But I hate the aura. Give us Inherent Power Slide without the aura, please.

I can understand the pre order "bonus" ones (the helmets and the "pre order" sprints), because they were US account exclusive only, until they became available via the vet reward tree.

Now, I would be fine with the pack being sold *IF* it came with 30 days gameplay as well (similar to buying a copy of the game actually).

As someone that bought Two COV collector's editions, a hero gear kit, and a late CoH Collector's Edition for $80, I support selling all the contents in the store, and/or providing them through Paragon Rewards.

As for the problem with selling badges... that badge was already a badge you had to purchase. I have no problem with selling it as long as you never sell any other badge.

Even better, you could always put that badge in the game to be earned, and then sell the rest of the goodies on the Paragon Market.

P.S. since it's called the "VIP" badge for heroes, I think it would also be fitting to give it out for subscribing for at least one month. You haven't nixed subscription badges, given some of the "stay subbed for 3 months and get a badge and other goodies" promotions.

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Many people will disagree with this position, but at its heart, the decision was primarily driven by maintaining the exclusivity of those Collector / Limited Editions for the customers that took the time and effort to purchase them at the time of their release.
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Then how about making something similar? A slide with a different appearance, mayhaps a different color and texture? Instead of a Four Winds Cape, mayhaps you could make a Four Seasons cape created by using the the Four Winds one as a model.

Let us put emblems on the back of our capes and include the Arachnos one

Put all this into a new Collector's edition and call it "The Reboot"

Ah well, just my three cents.

Lisa.

The problem I have with exclusives like this in MMO's (as opposed to SP games) is that they're only available for a limited time and MMO's can have a relatively long lifespan. Players come to the game at different stages of that lifespan. There are plenty of players who weren't around for the start of the game and the release of collectors editions for various reasons, among which are simply not knowing of its existence at the time or not being old enough themselves at the time. Those players can become devoted and loyal fans who would love to have been able to buy all those collectors items but can't through no fault of their own. (As an example: My kid brother was 7 at the time of this game's release. He's been an avid fan for the past 3 years who spends a good chunk of his allowance and birthday money to be able to play this game.)

Taking that into account the whole "I bought it way back when and I want to show how special a snowflake I am, so none of those noobs can have it EVER!" argument really falls flat to me.

As someone who has the CoH: collectors edition (tracked it down online well after its release date. How's that for dedication?) I hope all the CE items get released on the market at some point.

The same thing goes for those loyalty program items. I get why they are done and I don't have to much of a problem with them (my subscription keeps going, so I get them all anyway), but I wouldn't mind it either if it was decided to release those on the market say, some 2-3 years after the fact. That way they are far enough away to still have their desired effect, but people who actually start playing after the fact or unlucky persons who really couldn't keep up their subscription at the time (for reasons best summed up as 'life') can still get a shot at those things later on if they're interested.