SSA6 and Alignment Change Tokens
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Posted on: 2012-02-21 01:03 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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$10 there and back again and I'd use a token, do a patron arc, get the PPP, use a token, and then go back to life as usual.|
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Waiting for the nerdrage posts that the Alignment Change tokens are too expensive.
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$20 round trip, probably not.
It's a redside QoL thing, make them reasonably priced and the transient villain population drops like a well weighted body.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Waiting for the nerdrage posts that the Alignment Change tokens are too expensive.
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RAAAAAAAAGE! I spent FOUR DAYS moving my character to villain side to get the scorpion shield and now I can move him back hero side pronto for 800 points!
RAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGEEEEEE!
Is that over the top enough?
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Originally Posted by Kinrad
RAAAAAAAAGE! I spent FOUR DAYS moving my character to villain side to get the scorpion shield and now I can move him back hero side pronto for 800 points!
RAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGEEEEEE! Is that over the top enough? |
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When you use one you are instantly transported to Mercy or Atlas, as appropriate.
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Originally Posted by Lothic
Yeah I have to assume they made it so that you can't be in a mission or a PvP zone while using one of these Tokens. You probably can't be in Ouroboros or a SG base either. But like I said before it might be worth experimenting regardless - I'm sure someone will try all these things soon enough.
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@Quasadu
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Cool. I'll just use them then as zone teleporters at $10 a pop.
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Originally Posted by Quasadu
When you use one you are instantly transported to Mercy or Atlas, as appropriate.
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
Cool. I'll just use them then as zone teleporters at $10 a pop.
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No nerdrage here but if I have 800 pp to blow, I'd rather get a lot of other things.|
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Waiting for the nerdrage posts that the Alignment Change tokens are too expensive.
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I am saving my nerdrage for when they finally unleash enhancement converters onto the market. There is no way they will price those where it won't be too high and too low at the same time.
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
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Uhm, I hate to break the news to you, but the villain population already dropped like a stone during the first year after GR launched. The people there now are the ones that want to be there whether they're visiting or permanent.
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Originally Posted by Ogi
$10 there and back again and I'd use a token, do a patron arc, get the PPP, use a token, and then go back to life as usual.
$20 round trip, probably not. It's a redside QoL thing, make them reasonably priced and the transient villain population drops like a well weighted body. |
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Originally Posted by forbin_project
uhm, i hate to break the news to you, but the villain population already dropped like a stone during the first year after gr launched. The people there now are the ones that want to be there.
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total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
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Yeah I think I knew that. But there were people who were saying they were still having weird problems like having newly switched villains stuck in blueside Ouroboros and the like. Figured that in order to solve those problems they might have put a limit on the types of places you could be -before- you used the tokens.
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Originally Posted by Quasadu
When you use one you are instantly transported to Mercy or Atlas, as appropriate.
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How do you get Scorpion Shield without being a villain/rog?|
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
The people there now are the ones that want to be there whether they're visiting or permanent.
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I don't want to be there, I want a def shield that doesn't screw over my costume.
edit: money opportunity PS: 800 PP patron pool global unlock.
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If that was an account-wide unlock like the capes and auras unlock are, I'd probably be all over that.
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Originally Posted by Ogi
edit: money opportunity PS: 800 PP patron pool global unlock.
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And the Blue side was another steaming pile of hero-fail.|
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You have to be a vil/rog to unlock them. Once they're unlocked, you keep them, even if you switch back.
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Originally Posted by Ogi
How do you get Scorpion Shield without being a villain/rog?
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@Roderick
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Originally Posted by Android_5Point9
If that was an account-wide unlock like the capes and auras unlock are, I'd probably be all over that.
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Originally Posted by Roderick
You have to be a vil/rog to unlock them. Once they're unlocked, you keep them, even if you switch back.
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And how do you unlock them without being a villain or rogue at the time? Still waiting for that answer.
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If you want to unlock something for a character that can only be obtained by switching to another faction then you want to be there in order to get it. Otherwise you do without it because you don't really want it.
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Originally Posted by Ogi
How do you get Scorpion Shield without being a villain/rog?
I don't want to be there, I want a def shield that doesn't screw over my costume. |
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You don't. You switch to villain not rogue, unlock, and switch back.
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Originally Posted by Ogi
Duh.
And how do you unlock them without being a villain or rogue at the time? Still waiting for that answer. |
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So then there are people redside that don't want to be redside.
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Originally Posted by Hqnk
You don't. You switch to villain not rogue, unlock, and switch back.
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There are people who just want to have access to patrons. I did it on one of my toons. I went villain, did just enough of Mako's patron arc to get access to the patrons and then went hero. Took four days. I did not consider myself "redside." I was "dipping" because I wanted tentacles for my toon. |
Originally Posted by Ogi
So then there are people redside that don't want to be redside.
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Now dipping is easier.
Yup did it on my ill/Rad controller purely for the Scorpion mastery pool.
additional 20% Res debuff, a smashing/lethal shield and an additional pet are pretty damn nifty for an Illusion/Radiation controller, combined with everything else in the set.
Sure it is overkill since you can solo a Giant Monster with Perma-Phantom Army alone but the additional resistance debuff makes that easier and the Tarantula pet (suppose to be a Toxic Tarantula but is actually a good deal smaller than the NPC and Incarnate lore versions) adds more DPS.
Now throw Incarnating into the mix, I'll have more than enough Recovery thanks to the large endurance discount on all the powers (Cardiac Alpha), I'll actually have an AoE that isn't a hold (Judgement, not sure which yet), more pets (going for Rularuu, they're not the best DPS pet but I want a pet eyeball damn it), a Resistance/Defense shield to keep all the pets alive (Barrier) and even more resistance debuffing (Reactive) to turn the ridiculous single target damage into something capable of beating most AVs to death in half the time.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Depends on how over the top your rage is.
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So does this mean my Hero can purchase two alignment change tokens to go to villain for the PPP and then back to Hero in the same day?
I think the alignment change tokens are a great idea! Yeah, I wish they were cheaper, and yes, if they were I'd buy one - maybe several, actually. But I also think it's totally fair for them to charge more for something that's a time-saving, QoL item.
As long as there is an alternative, free (VIP), in-game ability that is easily accessible, then I'm fine with higher prices at the store for these sorts of luxury items, regardless of whatever reasoning they have for doing so.