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So basically this whole snarky thread shows us 2 things:
1. Many people would like to have travel powers suppress instead of detoggle (myself included, I very likely won't buy any until this is "fixed" 
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2. This forum isn't much different than any other.. most posters mean well, but come off as complete jerks...
btw, Forbin just because you were actually right in this case doesn't mean you didn't come off looking like a jerk (at least to this neutral observer).
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Originally Posted by Dr_Greyson
btw, Forbin just because you were actually right in this case doesn't mean you didn't come off looking like a jerk (at least to this neutral observer).
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Like attracts like. Many "snarky" posters have no problem responding to a question or suggestion nicely, when the OP posts with some measure of humility. But when you (the general "you") come barging in and start acting like you know exactly what you're talking about and you're definitely right despite everyone else (including an actual developer who does this crap for a living) telling you otherwise, then yeah, you get what's coming to you.|
Originally Posted by Dr_Greyson
So basically this whole snarky thread shows us 2 things:
1. Many people would like to have travel powers suppress instead of detoggle (myself included, I very likely won't buy any until this is "fixed" )2. This forum isn't much different than any other.. most posters mean well, but come off as complete jerks... btw, Forbin just because you were actually right in this case doesn't mean you didn't come off looking like a jerk (at least to this neutral observer). |
For what it's worth, I agree that the detoggling thing is annoying, and even if I did have much interest in the current detoggling powers (the hover board is ugly, the magic carpet is eh, and I don't have any Animorph characters), I probably wouldn't bother getting them unless I specifically planned on using them on toggle-light characters. Of course, none of this is what the OP was really addressing in the first place.
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Originally Posted by Kioshi
What about not detoggling, only suppressing toggle powers? I love my Rocket Board for getting around with my non-travel power toons (and even the speedsters and superjumpers for big travels) but retoggling is a pain, I have toons with 8+ toggles.
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The detoggling is annoying yes. But given that it is not likely or needed, to be changed, the simple fix is as follows:
1. Find Walk on your power trays.
2. Right click and select Remove.
3. Do not buy the rocket board or magic carpet from the store.
4. If you did buy them, repeat steps 1 and 2 for those powers.
5. You wont have an issue with them detoggling powers again.
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Originally Posted by Sheogoth
We all have been annoyed by accidentally clicking walk to dropped out of the sky/detoggle our shields, or we just plan like using walk.
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I've never actually done this. Not even once since we got the power. And I've never seen anyone else do it (at least where I could tell that's what happened). And I've never heard anyone else complain about it over any channel I'm on...
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It only happens to people that put their non combat travel powers in amongst their attack/defense powers. Everyone else arranges the powers in their trays, and moves the trays themselves apart so this doesn't happen by accident.
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Originally Posted by Coulomb2
Really? Huh.
I've never actually done this. Not even once since we got the power. And I've never seen anyone else do it (at least where I could tell that's what happened). And I've never heard anyone else complain about it over any channel I'm on... |
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I use it to completely detoggle all my powers occasionally. Have it bound to a key button. Works great.
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Originally Posted by Coulomb2
Really? Huh.
I've never actually done this. Not even once since we got the power. And I've never seen anyone else do it (at least where I could tell that's what happened). And I've never heard anyone else complain about it over any channel I'm on... |
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Yeah but that's not by accident. |
Originally Posted by Diggis
I use it to completely detoggle all my powers occasionally. Have it bound to a key button. Works great.
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Still implying it's broken ... May I suggest other terminology like changed, edited, improved|
Originally Posted by Dr_Greyson
So basically this whole snarky thread shows us 2 things:
1. Many people would like to have travel powers suppress instead of detoggle (myself included, I very likely won't buy any until this is "fixed" )2. This forum isn't much different than any other.. most posters mean well, but come off as complete jerks... btw, Forbin just because you were actually right in this case doesn't mean you didn't come off looking like a jerk (at least to this neutral observer). |
Would go a long way in ending the snark.
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What event merits the desire to detoggle everything at once? I can't think of a time I wanted that to happen.
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Originally Posted by Diggis
I use it to completely detoggle all my powers occasionally. Have it bound to a key button. Works great.
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and why on earth would you be doing it so often that you need it bound that to a key? |
Originally Posted by Twigman
What event merits the desire to detoggle everything at once? I can't think of a time I wanted that to happen.
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I still don't understand why people feel the need to have all their toggles on, all the time, every time they log in.
Some of us RP? That's a time when toggles aren't always wanted.
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Sees his in game GF (female with ___ name) and doesn't want her to know he's a hero, so he detoggles his powers real fast ... :P
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
I still don't understand why people feel the need to have all their toggles on, all the time, every time they log in.
Some of us RP? That's a time when toggles aren't always wanted. |
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Standing at a crowded consignment house and suddenly realizing that you're running a ton of annoying / graphically intensive toggles you forgot to turn off?
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Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
and why on earth would you be doing it so often that you need it bound that to a key?
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I don't know why people are asking for suppression. That wouldn't solve the issue. The powers aren't detoggled because they want them shut off for balance reasons. They are detoggled because they need to be disabled to keep people from turning them on while on the hoverboard-- turning them on requires an animation, and allowing them to be turned on while on the hoverboard would mean new animations for all toggles.|
Originally Posted by Kioshi
What about not detoggling, only suppressing toggle powers? I love my Rocket Board for getting around with my non-travel power toons (and even the speedsters and superjumpers for big travels) but retoggling is a pain, I have toons with 8+ toggles.
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What you should be asking for is new tech that allows toggles and passives to remain on when activating the hoverboard if the toggles are already on, but not to be activated if they're off. That would prevent people from using animations while on the board, but would still allow toggles and passives to remain on.
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This, and the insulting attitude in his first post.
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Originally Posted by Twigman
Still implying it's broken ... May I suggest other terminology like changed, edited, improved
Would go a long way in ending the snark. |
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That was my first thought. It's just the quickest way to detoggle everything when entering those places. Sure it only takes a few seconds more to toggle them off individually but if a person wants to make the extra effort to show consideration to his fellow players in the game I won't object.
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Originally Posted by Codewalker
Standing at a crowded consignment house and suddenly realizing that you're running a ton of annoying / graphically intensive toggles you forgot to turn off?
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I'm skipping the entire conversation because it looks like it got really stupid really fast. Instead I'm just going to state the obvious and ask nicely for the powers not to detoggle you when you use them and call it a day.
As others have said, these powers are working as intended. They're not meant to be used in combat, or along with other powers, and devs have explained elsewhere why those limitations exist.
If you find you're accidentally clicking on them too often, why not move them to an out of the way power tray? In most cases, these powers aren't things you're going to need to use on the spur of the moment, so you don't need to have them convenient for instant access anyway.
It does seem like they could have made the purchased travel powers 'affecting only self' instead of de-toggling everything. That wouldn't have required redoing any animations.
That they didn't must mean even that's more difficult that it would seem on the surface. Even so, I'd like them much more (ie. buy them and use them) if they did 'affect only self'. No one really knows if there's enough like me that would then purchase them to make it worth the Dev's time.
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You can still activate toggles, PBAoE buffs/heals and self-targeted clicks (like Reconstruction, Unstoppable, SoW, and Dull Pain) while "only affecting self", and those all have animations, so unfortunately, it wouldn't resolve the issue. They need new tech.|
Originally Posted by Socorro
It does seem like they could have made the purchased travel powers 'affecting only self' instead of de-toggling everything. That wouldn't have required redoing any animations.
That they didn't must mean even that's more difficult that it would seem on the surface. Even so, I'd like them much more (ie. buy them and use them) if they did 'affect only self'. No one really knows if there's enough like me that would then purchase them to make it worth the Dev's time. |
If they don't feel it's worth the resources to create tech that allows toggles to remain on but not be activated, then I hope they'll consider modifying the current tech to at least not disable passive powers, as those do not have any animations attached to them.
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That's a pretty neat idea. Gonna have to remember that.
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Originally Posted by Diggis
I use it to completely detoggle all my powers occasionally. Have it bound to a key button. Works great.
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(if memory serves)All status effects used to detoggle powers, and the Dev's changed that. Why can't they change it for the travel powers ... This is in NO way me agreeing with attacking from said travel power. Just that all SELF effecting toggles should remain active and even give their respective buffs.