Master Run: Hardest and Easiest
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Posted on: 2011-12-16 06:24 in Badges and Gladiators
I agree with you, Keyes took me way more runs to get than any other MO. Apex I have on all of my 50s and is quite easy on all but the worst teams.
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What makes the MoKeyes badges even harder -now- is that it's fairly difficult to organize a league that even wants to try for those badges much less succeed in getting them. |
Originally Posted by OV_ohms
I agree with you, Keyes took me way more runs to get than any other MO. Apex I have on all of my 50s and is quite easy on all but the worst teams.
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I had the relative misfortune of being overseas during the time that the Keyes trial was first introduced and had no regular access to be able to play the game for a few months. Consequently most of the serious badgers on my server who ever cared about getting those badges managed to get them months ago.
I now consider the MoKeyes badges amongst the hardest to earn in the entire game at this point. It's not just overcoming the challenges the game requires to get them but having to rely on multiple other people who want to spend the time as well. I know a few people who've said they'd be willing to help but even that's a challenge finding all of them on at the same time.
Thankfully I managed to get Loves A Challenge a couple of weeks ago due to a lucky break finding a league going for it (Thanks @Ara and company) but it seems uncertain when or if I'll get other chances at the others. I guess time will tell.
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Keyes is by far the most difficult. Its the moby dick of badges.
I had a hard time with LGTF, until I figured the Hami out.
I think the Mo Apex is pretty darn easy.
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Hardest: Keyes for sure. I've been doing Sunday runs for three months now, and we still haven't gotten Avoids the Green Stuff, although we've come very close the last three Sundays, and I still believe we were robbed that one time. [Edit 12/18: Post this, get it the next Sunday.]
Easiest: Once you're able to handle the final fight against BM, Apex is really easy. Imperious is pretty easy, too, as long as you don't get careless.
Hardest - Keyes
Easiest - TPN
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TPN? Really...
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Originally Posted by Kotchie
Hardest - Keyes
Easiest - TPN |
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Originally Posted by Kotchie
Hardest - Keyes
Easiest - TPN |
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Originally Posted by Nitra
TPN? Really...
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I would say I have to agree with that in some way.|
Originally Posted by Nitra
TPN? Really...
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Getting MoKeyes took a good 2-3 weeks of 1-2 runs every night (for the most part)...
MoTPN? One run....
No seriously, first run on my main badger toon, EI, one run, got all the badges...hooray!
Now yes, I had a great league that time but I guess it depends on the definition of "easy."
I digress TPN can be "easy" if you have the players/know what to do/etc....it is very much a race against the clock because I think we were about 7 or 10 seconds away from missing out on the "do the 2 500 PO runs in 8 mins or less" badge.
But yes, MoApex is so easy; you usually get that without even trying.
MoKeyes is still the hardest I think.
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Although to Lothic's point...MoLambda can be argued that it's the hardest one...how many people (main badger types) already have the badges? How hard is it to get people to help you out and get the badges?
In one respect MoLambda is probably the hardest to get people to do with you and follow instructions but still "easier" to actually do than a MoKeyes attempt.
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Hardest = Keyes Green Stuff and LaC badges penalize the whole league, perhaps instead it should penalize the team of the person that gets caught in the green or gets killed instead of the whole league?
Easiest: Apex
hardest i say would be MO keyes, mo lambda isnt hard just extremely annoying
easiest prolly apex, ITF
Not one vote for Kahn? That seemed to me to be the simplest thing in the world. Granted, I had a good team, but all Mo runs require a pretty good team.
Apex is the most fun, though. At least it is for me.
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I got MoTPN on my blaster, who I do not badge with (and I am not really THAT proficient with), on a 14 man PuG, and very little direction, first try. Could be we had alot of vets in the league (I did not look) It was quite possibly the "smoothest" trial I have ever been on, and that takes into account Apex, Kahn, BAF...all of them..it went that well
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Originally Posted by Nitra
TPN? Really...
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That's cool Kotchie, you lucked out for sure because there is a big timing factor, i'd have to guess that some if not all the people on that team had done it a few times before to get|
Originally Posted by Kotchie
I got MoTPN on my blaster, who I do not badge with (and I am not really THAT proficient with), on a 14 man PuG, and very little direction, first try. Could be we had alot of vets in the league (I did not look) It was quite possibly the "smoothest" trial I have ever been on, and that takes into account Apex, Kahn, BAF...all of them..it went that well
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to the point where you got the whole thing on the first try... grats O_o
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Keyes is the hardest IMO, though I haven't done MoM yet, but it just looks time consuming with having to fight all the nightmares at least once.
As for the easiest, Apex, TPN, and ITF. In no real order. I got MoTPN my first run at the trial.
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Trying to get anyone to do extra requirements of BAF or Lambda is increasingly like asking if people want a root canal. Given the upswing of BAF failures on some servers, I'm not holding out any hope of seeing MoBAF or MoLambda on any of my future characters.|
Originally Posted by Energizing_Ion
Although to Lothic's point...MoLambda can be argued that it's the hardest one...how many people (main badger types) already have the badges? How hard is it to get people to help you out and get the badges?
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Originally Posted by Energizing_Ion
In one respect MoLambda is probably the hardest to get people to do with you and follow instructions but still "easier" to actually do than a MoKeyes attempt.
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Statesman would've been an easy one if we didn't have a corruptor who thought she was a blaster. Using only attacks and no support.
Keyes is probably the hardest. Or TPN.
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MoKIR was the hardest one, only because one tiny little mistake in the last phase ruined two badges. We got that one the day before they fixed the pet bug.
TPN wasn't difficult. We were trying for the news flash badge and got all the other ones by accident in one run.
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Hardest: MoKeyes, bar none. Finally got Green Stuff (and the master badge) today after four months of trying.|
Originally Posted by Nitra
Out of all the Master Runs which do you think is the Hardest to do and optain
and which is the easiest... Hardest: for me is the MoKeys, even though it's been nerfed it's still a though one. although the MoLambda wasn't a walk in the park, I'd give the nod to MoKeys Easiest: MoApex without a doubt  |
Easiest: MoKahn. Got it on a 41 minute run, a PUG, first try.
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Originally Posted by Snow Globe
Trying to get anyone to do extra requirements of BAF or Lambda is increasingly like asking if people want a root canal....
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I've had a root canal before; thanks for bringing that painful memory up!
But seriously it is hard...I do try to help others get badges but...yeah...I think MoLambda is the hardest to get people to follow directions. BAF at least it's not too hard comparatively.
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Given past experience, it isn't something that people want to do. |
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I've had a root canal before; thanks for bringing that painful memory up!
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Originally Posted by Energizing_Ion
But seriously it is hard...I do try to help others get badges but...yeah...I think MoLambda is the hardest to get people to follow directions. BAF at least it's not too hard comparatively.
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Unfortunately, MoLambda is flat-out stupid in implementation. Most of the Master badges can be obtained simply by the team/league EXCELLING in their performance. Others can be obtained by choosing to make things slightly more difficult. The badges for Lambda require you to run the trial in a manner completely the opposite of a 'normal' run.... three times.
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Originally Posted by Energizing_Ion
I think MoLambda is the hardest to get people to follow directions.
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Hardest for me personally was pre-Incarnate MoSTF. I believe it took me 13 runs to get it, and I only died on two of those runs... Now it's a walk in the park. 
Current easiest: MoApex or MoITF. (ITF was easy even before Incarnate abilities on a good team.)
Current hardest: MoKeyes. Green Stuff hates you. Loves a Challenge wasn't too bad, even before the recent difficulty nerfs, when compared with Green Stuff.
(Still haven't had the time to try either of the 2 new trials... but from everything I've heard, I doubt I'll be changing either of the above.)
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Keyes was the hardest, but also was the most accomplished. We worked our tails /off/ since it was literally the day before the pet bug was fixed.|
Originally Posted by Iron_General
MoKIR was the hardest one, only because one tiny little mistake in the last phase ruined two badges. We got that one the day before they fixed the pet bug.
TPN wasn't difficult. We were trying for the news flash badge and got all the other ones by accident in one run. |
TPN is the easiest if you get a good league together. We weren't trying and would have had Mo if we didn't finish the first public opinion phase. Then we went back the next day going just for the public opinion badge and walked away with a full Mo run. It's also my current favorite incarnate trial.
MoMayhem is also the most annoying. Playing the RNG grinding game (aka Nightmares) for a badge is extremely annoying.
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Out of all the Master Runs which do you think is the Hardest to do and optain
and which is the easiest...
Hardest: for me is the MoKeys, even though it's been nerfed it's still a though one.
although the MoLambda wasn't a walk in the park, I'd give the nod to MoKeys
Easiest: MoApex without a doubt
It's better to save the Mystery, than surrender to the secret...