Super Packs are now on test server...
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Agent White,
Posted on: 2011-12-14 18:43 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
/in before 'omg random *HATE*'
Hmm, on test or on the beta server?
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Test or beta?
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
City of Heroes is a game about freedom of expression and variety of experiences far more so than it is about representing any one theme, topic or genre.
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On Beta.
More disappointment than hate, really...
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Well seeing as nothing we ever do in beta/testing is ever even looked at by the devs, I guess they've decided, to just go ahead with the idea and screw any of us who have issues with the idea.
Brawling Cactus from a distant planet.
I didn't realize test and beta were two different things... I assume its beta then.
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They're changing Enhancement Converters from a store-bought option to an in-game reward based on Beta feedback.|
Originally Posted by CactusBrawler
Well seeing as nothing we ever do in beta/testing is ever even looked at by the devs, I guess they've decided, to just go ahead with the idea and screw any of us who have issues with the idea.
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I don't hold much hope they'll make the change that would change my opinion of these from "NO NO NO" to "meh," but... hey, I've been surprised before.
okay, here's another important question:
Any of the new costume pieces that are supposed to come in the super packs out as well? I know it'll take time to answer since folks might not have found any yet, but just lemme know if you do find them.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
City of Heroes is a game about freedom of expression and variety of experiences far more so than it is about representing any one theme, topic or genre.
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Originally Posted by AzureSkyCiel
okay, here's another important question:
Any of the new costume pieces that are supposed to come in the super packs out as well? I know it'll take time to answer since folks might not have found any yet, but just lemme know if you do find them. |
On the beta forums; there is a feedback thread for Carnival of Light costume pieces.
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Actually, they've made a number of significant concessions already. It's just that certain things like "don't actually implement them" are off the table.
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Originally Posted by CactusBrawler
Well seeing as nothing we ever do in beta/testing is ever even looked at by the devs, I guess they've decided, to just go ahead with the idea and screw any of us who have issues with the idea.
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De minimis non curat Lex Luthor.
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Pricing changes have been glacial. They have made some pleasing concessions elsewhere, but progress for the store has been excruciating.
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Originally Posted by Bosstone
Actually, they've made a number of significant concessions already. It's just that certain things like "don't actually implement them" are off the table.
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Sermon
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I did 30 packs worth of rolls just to see what I would get. For anyone wants to read the full list, its pasted below. The drops are in alphabetical order rather than the order they actually dropped so that you can see the relative occurrence of each (some rewards repeat).
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Ascendency of the Dominator, Rare, x1 Blaster's Wrath, Rare, x1 Blaster's Wrath, Very Rare, x1 Blaster's Wrath, Very Rare, x1 Brute's Fury, Very Rare, x1 Command of the Mastermind, Very Rare, x1 Defender's Bastion, Very Rare, x1 Defender's Bastion, Very Rare, x1 Dominion of Arachnos, Rare, x1 Dominion of Arachnos, Very Rare, x1 Dominion of Arachnos, Very Rare, x1 Dominion of Arachnos, Very Rare, x1 Dominion of Arachnos, Very Rare, x1 Elemental Order Backpack, Very Rare, x1 Elemental Order Belt, Common, x1 Elemental Order Boots, Rare, x1 Elemental Order Chest, Uncommon, x1 Elemental Order Facemask, Uncommon, x1 Elemental Order Gloves, Uncommon, x1 Elemental Order Helmet, Rare, x1 Elemental Order Pants, Rare, x1 Elemental Order Shard Cannon, Very Rare, x1 Elemental Order Shoulders, Very Rare, x1 Elemental Order Sleeves, Common, x1 Enhancement Booster, Common, x2 Enhancement Booster, Common, x2 Enhancement Booster, Common, x2 Enhancement Booster, Rare, x8 Enhancement Booster, Rare, x8 Enhancement Booster, Rare, x8 Enhancement Booster, Rare, x8 Enhancement Booster, Uncommon, x5 Enhancement Booster, Uncommon, x5 Enhancement Booster, Uncommon, x5 Enhancement Booster, Uncommon, x5 Enhancement Booster, Uncommon, x5 Enhancement Catalyst, Very Rare, x1 Enhancement Catalyst, Very Rare, x1 Enhancement Unslotter, Common, x1 Enhancement Unslotter, Common, x1 Enhancement Unslotter, Common, x1 Enhancement Unslotter, Rare, x3 Enhancement Unslotter, Rare, x3 Enhancement Unslotter, Uncommon, x2 Enhancement Unslotter, Uncommon, x2 Enhancement Unslotter, Uncommon, x2 Enhancement Unslotter, Uncommon, x2 Enhancement Unslotter, Uncommon, x2 Enhancement Unslotter, Uncommon, x2 Enhancement Unslotter, Uncommon, x2 Experienced, Common, x1 Experienced, Common, x1 Experienced, Common, x1 Experienced, Common, x1 Experienced, Rare, x3 Experienced, Rare, x3 Experienced, Rare, x3 Good Luck Imbuement, Common, x1 Guarded, Common, x1 Guarded, Common, x1 Guarded, Common, x1 Insight Imbuement, Common, x1 Invigorate, Common, x1 Invigorate, Common, x1 Invigorate, Common, x1 Invigorating Imbuement, Common, x1 Luck Imbuement, Common, x1 Luck Imbuement, Common, x1 Malice of the Corruptor, Rare, x1 Malice of the Corruptor, Rare, x1 Malice of the Corruptor, Very Rare, x1 Malice of the Corruptor, Very Rare, x1 Malice of the Corruptor, Very Rare, x1 Precise, Common, x1 Precise Imbuement, Common, x1 Prestige Booster, Common, x1 Prestige Booster, Common, x1 Protected, Common, x1 Protected, Common, x1 Protected, Common, x1 Rage Imbuement, Common, x1 Rage Imbuement, Common, x1 Rage Imbuement, Common, x1 Rage Imbuement, Common, x1 Rage Imbuement, Common, x1 Restore, Common, x1 Restore, Common, x1 Restore, Common, x1 Restore, Common, x1 Restore, Common, x1 Restore, Common, x1 Restore, Common, x1 Restore, Common, x1 Restore, Common, x1 Restore, Common, x1 Restore, Common, x1 Restore, Common, x1 Restore, Uncommon, x2 Revival, Common, x1 Revival, Common, x1 Revival, Common, x1 Revival, Common, x1 Revival, Uncommon, x2 Revival, Uncommon, x2 Reward Merits, Common, x25 Reward Merits, Common, x25 Reward Merits, Common, x25 Reward Merits, Common, x25 Reward Merits, Common, x25 Reward Merits, Common, x25 Reward Merits, Common, x25 Reward Merits, Rare, x75 Reward Merits, Rare, x75 Reward Merits, Rare, x75 Reward Merits, Rare, x75 Reward Merits, Rare, x75 Reward Merits, Rare, x75 Reward Merits, Rare, x75 Reward Merits, Uncommon, x50 Reward Merits, Uncommon, x50 Reward Merits, Uncommon, x50 Reward Merits, Uncommon, x50 Reward Merits, Very Rare, x100 Reward Merits, Very Rare, x100 Reward Merits, Very Rare, x100 Reward Merits, Very Rare, x100 Rugged Imbuement, Common, x1 Scrapper's Strike, Rare, x1 Stalker's Guile, Rare, x1 Stalker's Guile, Rare, x1 Sturdy Imbuement, Common, x1 Tactical, Common, x1 Tactical, Common, x1 Tactical Imbuement, Common, x1 Will of the Controller, Very Rare, x1 Will of the Controller, Very Rare, x1 Windfall, Rare, x2 Windfall, Rare, x2 Windfall, Rare, x2 Windfall, Uncommon, x1 Windfall, Uncommon, x1 Windfall, Uncommon, x1 Windfall, Uncommon, x1 XP Booster, Rare, x2 XP Booster, Rare, x2 XP Booster, Rare, x2 XP Booster, Rare, x2 XP Booster, Uncommon, x1 XP Booster, Uncommon, x1 Protected, Common, x1
In total I got these incident rates for each rarity type. I'm not sure yet if the rarity directly informs the odds or not; I assume not, because many of the V Rares seem to be 1-time drops.
FYI I got my last costume drop somewhere around roll 20 and from there it was all sets and temp power type stuff. There could be more in there I don't know about.
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Commons 64 42.7% Uncommon 28 18.7% Rare 34 22.7% V Rare 24 16.0% Total: 150
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And those pieces don't appear to include any corsets - probably to avoid more corset-rage |
Originally Posted by Energizing_Ion
*shrugs*
On the beta forums; there is a feedback thread for Carnival of Light costume pieces. |
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Originally Posted by Bosstone
Actually, they've made a number of significant concessions already. It's just that certain things like "don't actually implement them" are off the table.
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They were made prior to them going on test, as we've already been told, by the time something goes on test it is too late to change anything, they are already working on the next project.
Hell they don't even bother to fix the bugs that we report, and send it live as is.
Brawling Cactus from a distant planet.
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Of any costume set to not include a corset in, they choose Carnies? That's like releasing a CoT costume set without robes! Uh, wait...
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
And those pieces don't appear to include any corsets - probably to avoid more corset-rage
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Thought for the day:
"Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment."
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What costume sets are available through the Super Packs? I only saw Elemental Order stuff.
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Only the Elemental Order stuff. The Carnival of Light stuff (Almost entirely exclusive to Females) is it's own thing, and not involved with the Super Packs at all.
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Originally Posted by Kierthos
What costume sets are available through the Super Packs? I only saw Elemental Order stuff.
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@Oathbound & @Oathbound Too
FYI - When you purchase one, it will show up in your e-mail under character items. If you claim it, you have to look in salvage under the special tab. It's basically a circle that is half blue with Stateman's Star and half red with Arachnos symbol.
If you right click on the Heroes & Villains Super Pack it gives you the option to open it or you can look at "info." Opening it reveals a new UI window with five face down cards for you to flip over. It also has a little radio button to flip all at once.
Each card has a number on the bottom right, x/205, so I assume this deck has 205 cards. My first few packs usually had at least one costume piece. One pack had as many as 3 pieces.
It seems that the card flips are set up to show the more common items on the left and the rarer items on the right. If you like to build tension, flip left to right. If you want to see the best cards in the pack flip right to left.
I was going to post my drops, but I disconnected before I had cut and pasted. 
50s: Inv/SS PB Emp/Dark Grav/FF DM/Regen TA/A Sonic/Elec MA/Regen Fire/Kin Sonic/Rad Ice/Kin Crab Fire/Cold NW Merc/Dark Emp/Sonic Rad/Psy Emp/Ice WP/DB FA/SM
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Looks pretty much like I expected.|
Originally Posted by Oedipus_Tex
I did 30 packs worth of rolls just to see what I would get. For anyone wants to read the full list, its pasted below. The drops are in alphabetical order rather than the order they actually dropped so that you can see the relative occurrence of each (some rewards repeat).
*stats* In total I got these incident rates for each rarity type. I'm not sure yet if the rarity directly informs the odds or not; I assume not, because many of the V Rares seem to be 1-time drops. FYI I got my last costume drop somewhere around roll 20 and from there it was all sets and temp power type stuff. There could be more in there I don't know about. *stats* |
A few comments though:
2 catalysis in 3 packs? Lol, good job they're going to let those drop from incarnate content.
If you're after the enhancements, this is pretty good. 3/4 of the packs have one, and if you don't get one, you'll probably get some reward merits which you can save up to get one, and if you get ones you don't like (which is pretty likely, you can sell them and use the inf to buy the ones you do want.
On the issue of merits, the amount for each rarity is about half of what it should be. It should be 50, 100, 150, 200. Not 25, 50, 75, 100.
Looks like they're kind of the booby prize of each rarity, especially the very rares. But as booby prizes go, they're not awful.
Costume pieces are clearly far too rare. $30 worth of packs and you've only gotten just over half the set. That's no good.
All the other things are pretty much just nice bonuses.
So, to sum up the categories most people will fall into:
If you want "loot"/inf, but nothing else, these packs are somewhat borderline. You'll probably get something you want, or can sell for something you want, but the end result might not be worth 80 points to you.
If you want "loot"/inf, and quite like the idea of little bonuses along with it. These packs are definitely for you. You'll easily get your value out of them. Just don't go too crazy.
If you want costume parts, and nothing else, avoid these packs like the plague. They're not worth it at all. The costume parts should be seen as nothing but little bonuses like everything else. Do not let yourself get into the mind set of "Ooo, I'll just collect the whole set then stop."
I think any other view points can pretty much be constructed from those three examples.
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Here's some new drop data, unsorted, as received.
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Reward Merits Common x25 Restore Common x1 Enhancement Booster Uncommon x5 Reward Merits Rare x75 Elemental Order Backpack Very Rare x1 Protected Common x1 Restore Common x1 Enhancement Booster Uncommon x5 XP Booster Rare x2 Experienced Rare x3 Rejuvenate Common x1 Reward Merits Common x25 XP Booster Uncommon x1 Windfall Rare x2 Dominion of Arachnos Very Rare x1 Tactical Imbuement Common x1 Protected Common x1 Reward Merits Uncommon x50 Enhancement Booster Rare x8 Enhancement Catalyst Very Rare x1 Enhancement Unslotter Common x1 Experienced Common x1 XP Booster Uncommon x1 Reward Merits Uncommon x50 Malice of the Corruptor Very Rare x1 Revival Common x1 Guarded Common x1 Reward Merits Uncommon x50 Enhancement Unslotter Rare x3 Command of the Mastermind Very Rare x1 Greater Health Imbuement Common x1 Tactical Common x1 Reward Merits Uncommon x50 Kheldian's Grace Rare x1 Stalker's Guile Very Rare x1 Restore Common x1 Experienced Common x1 Experienced Uncommon x2 XP Booster Rare x2 Elemental Order Shard Cannon Very Rare x1 Experienced Common x1 Restore Common x1 XP Booster Uncommon x1 Experienced Rare x3 Malice of the Corruptor Very Rare x1 Reward Merits Common x25 Experienced Common x1 Reward Merits Uncommon x50 Enhancement Booster Rare x8 Scrapper's Strike Very Rare x1 Protected Common x1 Guarded Common x1 Restore Common x1 Experienced Rare x3 Will of the Controller Very Rare x1 Restore Common x1 Tactical Common x1 Windfall Uncommon x1 Experienced Rare x3 Malice of the Corruptor Very Rare x1 Experienced Common x1 Invigorating Imbuement Common x1 Insight Imbuement Common x1 Reward Merits Rare x75 Enhancement Catalyst Very Rare x1 Experienced Common x1 Guarded Common x1 Enhancement Booster Uncommon x5 Brute's Fury Rare x1 Dominion of Arachnos Very Rare x1 Good Luck Imbuement Common x1 Protecting Imbuement Common x1 Revival Uncommon x2 Enhancement Unslotter Rare x3 Defender's Bastion Very Rare x1 Precise Imbuement Common x1 Restore Common x1 Enhancement Booster Uncommon x5 XP Booster Rare x2 Malice of the Corruptor Very Rare x1 Invigorate Common x1 Reward Merits Common x25 Enhancement Unslotter Uncommon x2 Scrapper's Strike Rare x1 Malice of the Corruptor Very Rare x1 Experienced Common x1 Revival Common x1 Enhancement Booster Uncommon x5 Reward Merits Uncommon x50 Ascendency of the Dominator Very Rare x1 Experienced Common x1 Revival Common x1 Revival Uncommon x2 Reward Merits Rare x75 Command of the Mastermind Very Rare x1 Endurance Imbuement Common x1 Prestige Booster Common x1 Good Luck Imbuement Common x1 Windfall Rare x2 Reward Merits Very Rare x100 Restore Common x1 Revival Common x1 Rejuvenate Common x1 XP Booster Rare x2 Reward Merits Very Rare x100 Restore Common x1 Revival Common x1 Rejuvenate Common x1 XP Booster Rare x2 Reward Merits Very Rare x100 Protected Common x1 Luck Imbuement Common x1 Restore Uncommon x2 Windfall Rare x2 Might of the Tanker Very Rare x1 Experienced Common x1 Revival Common x1 Guarded Common x1 Enhancement Booster Rare x8 Reward Merits Very Rare x100 Restore Common x1 Reward Merits Common x25 XP Booster Uncommon x1 Windfall Rare x2 Reward Merits Very Rare x100 Protected Common x1 Reward Merits Common x25 Enhancement Booster Uncommon x5 Enhancement Booster Rare x8 Kheldian's Grace Very Rare x1 Protecting Imbuement Common x1 Protected Common x1 Enhancement Booster Common x2 Enhancement Booster Uncommon x5 Windfall Rare x2 Tactical Imbuement Common x1 Protected Common x1 Reward Merits Uncommon x50 XP Booster Uncommon x1 Brute's Fury Very Rare x1 Invigorate Common x1 Protected Common x1 Restore Uncommon x2 Enhancement Booster Rare x8 Blaster's Wrath Very Rare x1 Enhancement Unslotter Common x1 Revival Common x1 Enhancement Unslotter Uncommon x2 Enhancement Booster Rare x8 Reward Merits Very Rare x100 Revival Common x1 Enhancement Unslotter Common x1 Reward Merits Uncommon x50 Windfall Rare x2 Dominion of Arachnos Very Rare x1 Guarded Common x1 Enhancement Booster Common x2 Enhancement Booster Uncommon x5 Enhancement Unslotter Rare x3 Reward Merits Very Rare x100 Enhancement Unslotter Common x1 Protection Imbuement Common x1 Reward Merits Uncommon x50 Ascendency of the Dominator Rare x1 Brute's Fury Very Rare x1 Luck Imbuement Common x1 Sturdy Imbuement Common x1 Enhancement Unslotter Uncommon x2 Enhancement Booster Rare x8 Reward Merits Very Rare x100 Protection Imbuement Common x1 Restore Common x1 Enhancement Booster Uncommon x5 Enhancement Booster Rare x8 Malice of the Corruptor Very Rare x1 Precise Common x1 Guarded Common x1 Enhancement Booster Common x2 Windfall Uncommon x1 Scrapper's Strike Very Rare x1 Invigorate Common x1 Health Imbuement Common x1 Revival Uncommon x2 XP Booster Uncommon x1 Reward Merits Very Rare x100 Revival Common x1 Invigorate Common x1 Revival Uncommon x2 Enhancement Unslotter Uncommon x2 Command of the Mastermind Very Rare x1 Revival Common x1 Experienced Common x1 Guarded Common x1 Reward Merits Uncommon x50 Reward Merits Very Rare x100 Tactical Common x1 Reward Merits Common x25 Reward Merits Uncommon x50 Revival Uncommon x2 Reward Merits Very Rare x100
50s: Inv/SS PB Emp/Dark Grav/FF DM/Regen TA/A Sonic/Elec MA/Regen Fire/Kin Sonic/Rad Ice/Kin Crab Fire/Cold NW Merc/Dark Emp/Sonic Rad/Psy Emp/Ice WP/DB FA/SM
Overlord of Dream Team and Nightmare Squad
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
And those pieces don't appear to include any corsets - probably to avoid more corset-rage
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MArcs:
The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."
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Just popping in to remind everyone that there is a Super Pack feedback thread in the beta forum, which is accessible by all VIPs. So if you've got the beta client, please go try some out for yourself then let the developers know what you think of your experience. They cost 0 points on the beta market, so you can "buy" as many as you want.
Positron: "There are no bugs [in City of Heroes], just varying degrees of features."
Time to test these out, lets try and start posting the probabilities.