Ah, yet another writer who doesn't know the meaning of "Decimate!"


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I agree to an extent, although I think "literally" is often not directly interchangeable with "figuratively." A statement like "I've figuratively been to hell and back today" has a different tone. I actually can't think of a word to replace "literally" in that sentence that indicates that the speaker is aware that the statement is technically false but so extreme as to be almost true.
I've got a word to replace "literally" in that sentence. "". That's it. Just stick in "" and the meaning does not change at all. "I've been to hell and back today" is a perfectly fine sentence with an easy to understand meaning.


 

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The definition you're referring to is practically obsolete in modern English. Words evolve over time.
Ah, the traditional defense of the person who can't be bothered to get things right.


 

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Ah, the traditional defense of the person who can't be bothered to get things right.
Be that as it may, it happens to be valid in this case. The evolution we're talking about is at least 100 years old.


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Be that as it may, it happens to be valid in this case. The evolution we're talking about is at least 100 years old.
Yeah, it's a bit like saying using electricity is wrong. Especially that crazy alternating current variety.


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Funny thing with greek prefixes, one little letter can change the whole meaning. For example, "deci" is one tenth of, "deca" is ten times as many. So what you meant to say in your id est up there was actually "deciliter would indicate a tenth of liter" and not ten liters, which would have been a decaliter.
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The other day, I was having a real hard time with a mission because I forgot to turn AVs off when solo. So I put out a call for help, and with my full team, we nearly decamated that mission!
I'm going to hug you now, just because that was full of awesome!


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For some reason, I guess some people think hyperbole needs more hyperbole in order to make it more impressive, hehe
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man View Post
While the strict meaning of 'kill one out of ten' is pretty much obsolete, it still doesn't mean 'decimate' was used correctly.

The intent of the blurb "decimate your foes with Titan Weapons" is better explicated with 'devastate' or 'destroy' or 'eradicate' or some other verb of total annihilation. 'Decimate' implies reduced or harmed greatly, not 'kill all.' Note that none of the quoted definitions implies 'completely destroyed.'
I find it interesting that the American Heritage panel disagrees with you. The majority of them seemed to object less to the quantity of destruction, and more to whether the destruction was killing or not. According to the quote, 66% were willing to accept the usage when a far larger number other than 10% was killed, but only 26% were willing to accept the usage when it referred to non-human death, such as property damage.

I don't think I would agree with the panel, but it does seem that there are two foci to the term: whether it refers to some acceptable range of fraction, and whether it refers to people specifically.


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Yet another pseudo-intellectual internet poster who doesn't understand that the origin of a word has only a small bearing on its use and meaning in common language.
I don't think it's necessarily pseudo-intellectualism or ignorance. I'm a copy editor, and what I often see in colleagues is a belief that English and its proper usage are reasonable, rational and sensible -- or maybe a need for that to be so. So they cling to any facts that seem to allow the use of reason in dictating usage. "Deci" means a tenth so decimate must refer to a tenth of something. "Over" and "above" are spacial concepts, so they don't mean "more than." Same with "under," "beneath" and "less than." I'm still waiting for "autopsy" to be banned from our paper for (supposedly) not meaning what everybody thinks it means. I roll my eyes a lot.

I would love for new terms and usages to catch on only when they are truly clever or useful. I want "literally" never to mean "virtually" and "virtually" to not mean just "in software and/or on the Internet." But I don't feel the need to stop language from changing or to make it always sensible. That would lessen the fun of it for me.

You can write, and sometimes get away with editing, in a way that makes you feel safe and secure, if that's your preference. I don't see the point, but I don't think that makes a person a fake or uninformed. Just sometimes annoying.

Language changes, and even the editors at the most influential publications or publishing houses (certainly not me), the professors at the greatest universities, and even the stuffiest of old English teachers (who may have the most influence of all) can do no more than tap the brakes.


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Most Extreme English Eradication Challenge!!
You intend to eliminate English by removing its roots?


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Serious question: Has the English language been decimated?
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I'm still waiting for "autopsy" to be banned from our paper for
(supposedly) not meaning what everybody thinks it means. I roll my eyes a lot.
Are you trying to tell me that "autopsy" doesn't mean "psychic car" ??? Curses!!!


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I find it interesting that the American Heritage panel disagrees with you. The majority of them seemed to object less to the quantity of destruction, and more to whether the destruction was killing or not. According to the quote, 66% were willing to accept the usage when a far larger number other than 10% was killed, but only 26% were willing to accept the usage when it referred to non-human death, such as property damage.

I don't think I would agree with the panel, but it does seem that there are two foci to the term: whether it refers to some acceptable range of fraction, and whether it refers to people specifically.
Interesting, so, do you think the original blurb meant that Titan Weapons reduce the quantity of one's foes by a certain percentage, or, that Titan Weapons merely seriously injure them?


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"Over" and "above" are spacial concepts, so they don't mean "more than."
I was all set to nitpick just because you said you were a copy editor, and then I checked and saw that this isn't actually incorrect. So did spacial precede spatial, or vice versa?

Edit: The wording on the double negative was chosen deliberately; I didn't want to say it was "correct" because all I could find about "spacial" was that it was an alternative spelling for "spatial", which led me to believe it may have been a common error that led to it being added to the dictionary.


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Yes words do change meaning over time. "Literally" literally means figuratively now.
What really bothers me about the page you link to is that it claims "bitterly" rhymes with "literally".


 

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Thread created to criticize the use of a word in a Marketing Email.

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Thread changes into a debate around the etymology of the word.

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You play black/blue, Z? A man after my own heart...
I'm twisted like that.

This was of course after Blue/Red became passe'.


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I'm twisted like that.

This was of course after Blue/Red became passe'.
Green/Blue/Black is more fun.

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The only percentages I'm interesting in regarding decimation are the 2.25% Endurance and the 6.25% recharge bonuses.



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What really bothers me about the page you link to is that it claims "bitterly" rhymes with "literally".
LOL
Hey... in that case, it rhymes with disastrously too!


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Thread created to criticize the use of a word in a Marketing Email.

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Thread changes into a debate around the etymology of the word.

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I'm twisted like that.

This was of course after Blue/Red became passe'.
Blue/black was one of my favorite strategies - empty their hand, empty their library, empty their graveyard. Also known as GOING GOING GONE.

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I prefer mono-black, personally...

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