Are there any *good* Alternate Universes in CoH?
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Posted on: 2011-12-04 20:12 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
There are also the worlds where time has been accelerated by Anti-Matter and Neuron. Though the citizens there are 'crazy' and attack you without provocation it's only because they've been driven mad by the Praetorians. Presumably before the accelerators were set up and after they've been destroyed it's really just a dimension of ordinary people.
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Another interesting thing is that the main setting for the game is called Primal Earth. I don't believe it's stated anywhere if our dimension really is significant enough to be called Primal or if it's just called that because of 'our' own hubris.
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I seem to recall a Praetorian mission where a contact explains why the Praetorians call it "Primal" Earth. It is because it's so savage and primitive from the Praetorian point of view. That is, it's "primal" not in the sense of "primary" but in the sense of Tennyson's "dragons of the prime," i.e., the savage dawn of time.|
Originally Posted by Mr_Morbid
Another interesting thing is that the main setting for the game is called Primal Earth. I don't believe it's stated anywhere if our dimension really is significant enough to be called Primal or if it's just called that because of 'our' own hubris.
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But I'm not sure that I'm not imagining that Praetorian text blurb entirely.
Further, none of that explains why Primal Earth calls itself that, though personally, I'd forgive any dimension that produced dimensional explorers for considering itself the "prime" one.
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Primal Earth is said to have more conenctions/links to other dimensions than anywhere else, so it's like a dimensional hub, and more important than other Earths.
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Do correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the Rikti Homeworld once attacked by the Battalion, before the Nemesis Plot that is The Rikti War(s?) started? Or was it only the Kheldian planet?
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Originally Posted by Oliin
Yea, by all accounts the Rikti are really rather peaceful I believe.
Of course then Nemesis automatons of prominent superheroes attacked their homeworld. So the Rikti we mostly encounter in game are the military forces effectively stuck behind enemy lines and even then there's a group of them trying to reach a peaceful settlement. I'm pretty sure I got that mostly right anyway, I haven't run many Rikti arcs in a while. |
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The Rikti's war with the Battalion was approximately 100 years ago and after that was over the Lineage of War returned to a small size with a largely ceremonial function. It isn't clear if the Battalion they fought was the same as the Battalion that represents the Coming Storm or if it was a different version of the Battalion native to their own universe. Dillo's people (aliens from our own dimension) also fought the Battalion and lost a number of planets to them (but not all according to his in-game dialogue.)
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Originally Posted by JanusFrs
Do correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the Rikti Homeworld once attacked by the Battalion, before the Nemesis Plot that is The Rikti War(s?) started? Or was it only the Kheldian planet?
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The Battalion of the Rikti Earth attacked them about a century ago and the Rikti drove them off.|
Originally Posted by JanusFrs
Do correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the Rikti Homeworld once attacked by the Battalion, before the Nemesis Plot that is The Rikti War(s?) started? Or was it only the Kheldian planet?
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Overall Rikti Earth is a relatively peaceful place as long as they're not attacked. Which is probably because the Rikti are one of the most powerful known species in the CoH universe. Consider that until the magical barier was erected, and some dialogue with their leaders occurred, the Rikti were sending attack ships the size of city blocks through enormous portals to Earth. It took one of the most powerful metahumans on Primal Earth to down one ship. And that's after only taking a year or so to tool up to a war footing after having had very small military for over half a century.
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NPC world is the most frightening of all. Your powers are worthless against them! They can push you around with ease. Truly we can only hope they never gain the technology to make it to Primal Earth or we'd all be doomed.
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Originally Posted by Agent White
Are there any *good* alternate universes? So far all the ones I've seen or heard of are horrible. There's the council world, the 5th column world, the Devouring Earth world, the Psychic Clockwork King world, the Rikti world, the Circle of Thorns world, Praetoria, etc.
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Are there any *good* Alternate Universes in CoH?, yes a lot
Tina Macintyre and Unai Kemen talk a lot about them, So Ones I no is.
(1) A World Ruled by the 5th Column
(2) A World Ruled by The Council
(3) a world rule by Nemesis
(4) The Alternate Universe that the Rikti are form.
(5) The Shadow Shard where Fire Base Zulu is at.
(6) There is War Earth where Battle Maiden is form.
(7) There is a Place where there nothing but War Wolves every where.
(8) A Place where the World ended by The DE.
(9) Black Swan's dimension and one of 17 Shadow Worlds
(10) A world ruled by the Freakshow.
(11) A Dark Place Where Clockwork King Destroyed everyone in it.
(12) Hydra dimension, where the Hydra are form.
(13) A world where Oranbega won their war against The Mu.
Can't think of anything else here a Link form Wiki http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Multiverse
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Note that this means that *BOTH* Battle Maiden and Valkyrie are technically "tourists" of the Praetorian and Primal Earth dimensions (respectively). Battle Maiden is just "hanging out" in Praetoria as a Trainer in Neutropolis (among other things) so as to get some R&R from the events on War Earth ... so to speak. Valkyrie is doing largely the same thing on Primal Earth in Steel Canyon ... except that Valkyrie "exists" because the nanotechnology in her Spear (formerly the property of Battle Maiden!) overwrote and replaced the personality and identity of the woman who became Valkyrie.|
Originally Posted by GreenFIame
(6) There is War Earth where Battle Maiden is from.
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I don't think too many people have noticed that Battle Maiden (and Valkyrie) are essentially constructs of a nanotechnology so advanced that it functions almost exactly the same as the Spirit Thorns used by the CoT ... which is kind of terrifying in and of itself, when you get right down to it.
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funny enough, I pointed that out some time ago. It's all rather horrifying to think about and would probably be a perfect way to taunt either Battle Maiden or Valkyrie.|
Originally Posted by Redlynne
I don't think too many people have noticed that Battle Maiden (and Valkyrie) are essentially constructs of a nanotechnology so advanced that it functions almost exactly the same as the Spirit Thorns used by the CoT ... which is kind of terrifying in and of itself, when you get right down to it.
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Originally Posted by Olantern
I seem to recall a Praetorian mission where a contact explains why the Praetorians call it "Primal" Earth. It is because it's so savage and primitive from the Praetorian point of view. That is, it's "primal" not in the sense of "primary" but in the sense of Tennyson's "dragons of the prime," i.e., the savage dawn of time.
But I'm not sure that I'm not imagining that Praetorian text blurb entirely. Further, none of that explains why Primal Earth calls itself that, though personally, I'd forgive any dimension that produced dimensional explorers for considering itself the "prime" one. |
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I think it's because the whole infinite dimensions theory doesn't make any dang sense in the first place. Giving it a little semblance of structure makes it easier to relate to.
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Originally Posted by Desi_Nova
I always thought that we thought of "our earth" as being earth Prime because of Point of view.
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I think the question this thread doesn't ask is, "Is our Universe a good universe?"
We are responsible for at least one inter-dimensional war and a heck of a lot inter-dimensional travel, and I watch Fringe so I know that's not a good thing! 
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Originally Posted by Mr_Morbid
Another interesting thing is that the main setting for the game is called Primal Earth. I don't believe it's stated anywhere if our dimension really is significant enough to be called Primal or if it's just called that because of 'our' own hubris.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Primal Earth is said to have more conenctions/links to other dimensions than anywhere else, so it's like a dimensional hub, and more important than other Earths.
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Primal Earth is a dimensional universe and the primary setting of the City of Heroes lore. It is one of many dimensions in the multiverse and is the dimension where most of the user's gameplay takes place. The name "Primal Earth" was given to the dimension by that dimension's Portal Corporation after their discovery of alternate Earths in other dimensions. Leading scientists of Primal Earth believe their world is a nexus of power with tendrils that connect it to many alternate Earths such as the Rikti homeworld and Praetoria. They further postulate that it has more such connections than any alternate Earth and so it must be considered the focal point of those worlds. As with any scientific theorem, there are some who disagree, even within the Primal Earth scientific community. Beings who call those other Earths their home also tend to see their world as central. The Praetorian emperor, for example, often refers to Primal Earth simply as Statesmans World and any scientist trying to convince him otherwise would most likely find his employment terminated. |
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Maybe we should just call ourselves Universe-A, and them Universe-1?
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Originally Posted by Olantern
Further, none of that explains why Primal Earth calls itself that, though personally, I'd forgive any dimension that produced dimensional explorers for considering itself the "prime" one.
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Wait... I know of one "good" alternate universe, or at least alternate dimension, that you can visit as much as you like... Pocket D. DJ Zero has that place so cleaned up, they don't even have bar brawls. Okay, there are the monkeys in the cages, but that's not really hostility, that's just harmless entertainment. Well... maybe it's not so harmless for the monkeys, but for everyone else it's fairly harmless... unless you're a member of PETA...then it might cause you to stress out, which could lead to heart attack, but for everyone else except the monkeys and the PETA members, it's all good.
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That one's easy to get to. Just log out cause you're living in it.
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Originally Posted by Agent White
Or even a normal non-super world?
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No, no. They just get sent to the Terminology Adjustment Facility (the lesser-known and much more pedantic version of the BAF).
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Pretty much, to quote Paragonwiki:
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I dunno. That place kinda feels like a "B" to me, you know?
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Originally Posted by Frost Warden
Maybe we should just call ourselves Universe-A, and them Universe-1?
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