Doctor Who Big-Screen Movie in the Works
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Posted on: 2011-11-14 11:54 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
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This one, as mentioned by Attercap earlier.
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Originally Posted by Rezarus
I believe they are talking about this movie:
http://www.hulu.com/watch/142471/dr-who-and-the-daleks Notice that he's not even "Doctor", but "Dr." |
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That wasn't a movie. It was a pilot for a American boot of the TV series that didn't get past that stage due to the lack of interest from the American audience for it at the time. Plus, it is counted as cannon for the TV series continuity, and Paul Mcgann the Official Seventh Doctor, which the Peter Cushing movies aren't.
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Originally Posted by Aneko
This one, as mentioned by Attercap earlier.
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Obviously it is a movie, and it's part of the current continuity.
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Originally Posted by Innovator
That wasn't a movie. It was a pilot for a American boot TV series that didn't get past that stage due to the lack of interest from the American audience for it at the time.
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'I don't like the look of it at all,' said the King: 'however, it may kiss my hand if it likes.'
'I'd rather not,' the Cat remarked.
'Don't be impertinent,' said the King, 'and don't look at me like that!' He got behind Alice as he spoke.
'A cat may look at a king,' said Alice.
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It was a movie that was supposed to be a back-door pilot to a new series.|
Originally Posted by Innovator
That wasn't a movie. It was a pilot for a American boot of the TV series that didn't get past that stage due to the lack of interest from the American audience for it at the time. Plus, it is counted as cannon for the TV series continuity, and Paul Mcgann the Official Seventh Doctor, which the Peter Cushing movies aren't.
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Actually it wasn't a lack of interest from the audience. It was purely craptacular mis-handling by Fox. Poor advertising, they dropped it into a timeslot that had it going head-to-head with hugely popular shows of the time, and in some areas, it was pre-empted by more than an hour (forgetting what pre-empted it the moment, my brain's making a sound suspiciously like PBBBBBBT!)
As such, the ratings stateside were DISMAL (and that's only if you're a crack-addled, hyperactive optimist). As such, the interest from Universal and Fox was something rapidly approaching ZERO.
Without the interest (and cash influx), the reboot project died.
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I'm in much the same boat. I know they made a movie back in the 90s and that it led to nothing. I've never seen it.|
Originally Posted by Lothic
I would not consider myself the most fanatical fan of Doctor Who but I've watched various incarnations of the show for the better part of 30 years now. Even accounting for that amount of "familiarity" with the franchise I never knew they already tried a theatrical movie at some point. *shrugs*
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And yeah, the 'We want to capture the magic of the TV show but we're going to have to change it completely to make a movie' comments shoot up giant red waving flags on top of fireworks. I will expect nothing of entertainment value from this until it solidifies a lot more.
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Yeah, I remember seeing it first run and felt like I was one of the few people who did see it at the time. I also remember feeling disappointed that the TV series that was supposed to come from it fell through. Paul McGann at least was able to continue his series run through the radio shows.
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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
It was a movie that was supposed to be a back-door pilot to a new series.
Actually it wasn't a lack of interest from the audience. It was purely craptacular mis-handling by Fox. Poor advertising, they dropped it into a timeslot that had it going head-to-head with hugely popular shows of the time, and in some areas, it was pre-empted by more than an hour (forgetting what pre-empted it the moment, my brain's making a sound suspiciously like PBBBBBBT!) As such, the ratings stateside were DISMAL (and that's only if you're a crack-addled, hyperactive optimist). As such, the interest from Universal and Fox was something rapidly approaching ZERO. Without the interest (and cash influx), the reboot project died. |
Now if you want to talk about bad Dr. Who movies.....
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Originally Posted by Innovator
Yeah, I remember seeing it first run and felt like I was one of the few people who did see it at the time. I also remember feeling disappointed that the TV series that was supposed to come from it fell through. Paul McGann at least was able to continue his series run through the radio shows.
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And Paul hated that damn wig they put him in. He had his own ideas about what The Doctor would look like. Here's his own depiction of The Eighth Doctor back in 2010. Look somewhat familiar?
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After thinking about this, quite seriously, I have to say my opinion on this movie idea for Dr. Who is summed up with this:
/jranger
I mean, honestly, movies *aren't* everything... and I'm not terribly keen on a non-canon Dr. Who movie on top of it all. A nice 2 hour TV movie will do nicely, and one that's canon.
**However**...
If they do like was mentioned, a Young Doctor vs a Young Master, and the stealing (allowing herself to be stolen?) of the TARDIS, is an idea I can definitely get behind, and in THAT ONE INSTANCE, I'll take a Dr. Who Movie... as long as it's a full 2 hours, and it's awesome.
/DO NOT do what M. Night Shamylan did to Avatar: The Last Airbender, namely, cram a season's worth of stuff into 90 minutes of movie.
//*REALLY*?! 90 whole minutes to tell a tale that took 7-8 hours of 30 minute slices to tell originally? You people were *stupid.*
///I hope someone redoes it correctly one day, and gets it all in 6 movies like it should be.
////At least.
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Bruce Willis was dead the whole time!
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Originally Posted by houtex
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
Bruce Willis was dead the whole time!
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Originally Posted by houtex
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You just ruined it for me. Now I have no reason to watch the final season of Moonlighting. Although this does explain some of the comments he made.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
Bruce Willis was dead the whole time!
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There were two, the first, Dr. Who and the Daleks, based off of William Hartnel's first Dalek story. It was quite popular at the time, considering it was audience's first chance to see Daleks in colour!|
Originally Posted by Lothic
I would not consider myself the most fanatical fan of Doctor Who but I've watched various incarnations of the show for the better part of 30 years now. Even accounting for that amount of "familiarity" with the franchise I never knew they already tried a theatrical movie at some point. *shrugs*
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The second film was called Daleks: Invasion Earth 2150 A.D. based off of the second William Hartnel story with the Daleks, the Dalek invasion of Earth.
That film wasn't very good, in fact I'd say it was pretty bad. Anyway, it didn't do well at all and a plan to made a third film based on The Chase was scrapped.
Of interest, the second film featured a policeman played by a young Bernard Cribbins, who would later go on to play Wilf alongside the 10th Doctor.
Another interesting fact is that many of the Dalek props used in the TV series were actually bought from the movie production.
A movie could and should not be too closely associated with the tv show. It's one thing to do Star Trek, where you had a five-year show and then continued the story ten years later across six movies. It's entirely another to try and explain nearly thirty years of television, eleven actors, a few dozen companions, the Time Lords and the nature of time travel as it works in the show in a single movie.
Doctor Who isn't as ingrained in mainstream culture to the point as Superman is, where you can ask virtually anyone who knows who the S-shield belongs to and they can give you the most pertinent facts about the character. That's why Superman: The Movie worked so well. People knew the story and didn't need too much explained to them. Doctor Who...at its worst, it's a mire of continuity and regeneration.
Doing something standalone would be an entry point to the series ideally and I think ideally would work best around the Time War. That way you introduce the key concepts (Gallifrey, The Daleks, Time Lords), have lots of explosions and such and by the end you have what the show has primarily had: The Doctor alone in his TARDIS. Down note for the movie, but gets the story across.
S.
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I'm really hoping this falls through.
Remove continuity and too many familiar things and it's no longer Dr. Who, it's just some guy in a time machine. And forgive me for being a huge cynic but this just sounds like Yates has realised his cash cow has dried up with Potter and is just grabbing for another popular British icon. Too many things have already been said that make me dread what the end result will look like.
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I think you are right. Its probably better for the films to be completely disconnected from the TV series, so that I can happily ignore them with regard to continuity etc etc.|
Originally Posted by SuperOz
A movie could and should not be too closely associated with the tv show. It's one thing to do Star Trek, where you had a five-year show and then continued the story ten years later across six movies. It's entirely another to try and explain nearly thirty years of television, eleven actors, a few dozen companions, the Time Lords and the nature of time travel as it works in the show in a single movie.
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The statement about starting from scratch still rubs me up the wrong way though
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Jagged Reged: 23/01/04
Steven Moffat declares IT IS ON between him and David Yates via Twitter:
"Announcing my personal moonshot, starting from scratch. No money, no plan, no help from NASA. But I know where the moon is Ive seen it."
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He's semi-quoting the Doctor from The Pandorica Opens there.
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Originally Posted by TrueGentleman
Steven Moffat declares IT IS ON between him and David Yates via Twitter:
"Announcing my personal moonshot, starting from scratch. No money, no plan, no help from NASA. But I know where the moon is Ive seen it." |
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Steven Moffat is unambiguously putting the kibosh on Yates's impromptu announcement of a Hollywood Doctor Who. He recently tweeted, "To clarify: any Doctor Who movie would be made by the BBC team, star the current TV Doctor and certainly NOT be a Hollywood reboot."
He also made a statement to the media, declaring that the programme is "a vitally important BBC brand with a huge international audience" and "not even Hollywood can start from scratch". He further promised, "Whatever happens, the BBC and BBC Worldwide will work together to ensure that we don't just get a movie, we get the movie that everyone wants."
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If there's going to be a big-budget Hollywood version of the Doctor, I hope it's a totally separate canon/continuity. Hollywood generally approaches things like this from the point of view of "can this become a franchise."|
Originally Posted by TrueGentleman
Steven Moffat is unambiguously putting the kibosh on Yates's impromptu announcement of a Hollywood Doctor Who. He recently tweeted, "To clarify: any Doctor Who movie would be made by the BBC team, star the current TV Doctor and certainly NOT be a Hollywood reboot."
He also made a statement to the media, declaring that the programme is "a vitally important BBC brand with a huge international audience" and "not even Hollywood can start from scratch". He further promised, "Whatever happens, the BBC and BBC Worldwide will work together to ensure that we don't just get a movie, we get the movie that everyone wants." |
If it's going to be a franchise (7-8 related movies), it won't work if it's inextricably linked to the series for several reasons:
(1) First and foremost, as popular as the series is, the general movie going public has no idea who the Doctor is. Beginning the movie with the assumption that the audience is familar with 50 years of stories is doomed to failure. Yes, Whophiles will probably like and enjoy it, but Hollywood knows better than to spend big budget dollars on a very narrow target audience. See: Serenity, Watchmen, etc.
(2) Hollywood executives aren't gonna pony up the big bucks to bankroll a big budget blockbuster starring a TV star. If the suits are gonna invest millions in the effort, they're gonna want the movie to be carried by an A-list actor/actress who is - rightly or wrongly - viewed as being more likely to provide a profitable return on investment.
(3) A series of 7 or 8 movies could conceivably require multiple actors in the starring role. The TV series is on number 11 now, only got room for two more, then we'll have to break out the hand-wavium.
"Everybody wants to change the world, but nobody wants to change themselves." -Tolstoy
If anyone can write a Who movie, it'd be Moffat...even though I'd ask RTD to co-write, because Davies does bigger than big better than a lot of writers. 
But I'm glad to see that any silly Hollywood-isation is being shot down now. And it only makes sense...the BBC isn't going to let their golden child be abused by anyone.
Go the Moff!
S.
Part of Sister Flame's Clickey-Clack Posse
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I've only watched the reboot series so I'm guessing this is something from the original but why is there only room for 2 more?
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Originally Posted by GATE-keeper
The TV series is on number 11 now, only got room for two more, then we'll have to break out the hand-wavium.
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There was no reboot.
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Originally Posted by Targos_NA
I've only watched the reboot series so I'm guessing this is something from the original but why is there only room for 2 more?
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'I don't like the look of it at all,' said the King: 'however, it may kiss my hand if it likes.'
'I'd rather not,' the Cat remarked.
'Don't be impertinent,' said the King, 'and don't look at me like that!' He got behind Alice as he spoke.
'A cat may look at a king,' said Alice.
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They have already used plenty of handwavium on The Master. Seems the Time Lords were handing out new regenerations to anyone on the front line, which would make sense.|
Originally Posted by GATE-keeper
(3) A series of 7 or 8 movies could conceivably require multiple actors in the starring role. The TV series is on number 11 now, only got room for two more, then we'll have to break out the hand-wavium.
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If I was writing who I would have a scene where the Doctor says that since he was also on the front line he doesn't know how many lives he has left, that he is not afraid of dying but is afraid of regenerating forever and ever with no escape. He's seen that, it would be a form of hell.
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Jagged Reged: 23/01/04
Dr. Who actually goes by the name "Dr. Who".
Who is not a Time Lord
Who is apparently a human who built a time machine.
It's like I made a Knightrider movie, but Kitt is just a GPS and Michael Knight is a wizard who goes by the name Knightrider.
Or it's like I made an A-Team movie, but instead of them being mercenaries, they are interior decorators.