Null the Gull and Knockback

Of the many bugs plaguing this release of CoH, the one that makes me the saddest is the Knockback bug.

It appears that someone dropped a decimal point when figuring knockback, causing all knockback to be scaled down to (almost, but not quite) zilch.

The really, really sad part as that this was being cheered by many meleers.

(Really, guys. That hurts! Do Energy Blasters, Stormies, and FF Defenders cheer when you're nefed, accidentally or not?)

One person brought up the option of having Null the Gull give the players interfaces to control their own knockback powers.

I'd be willing to support that, except I happen to know a few individuals who'd harass others to turn off their knockback.

No, what I want is for Null to offer the following options: 'Regular Knockback', 'Double Knockback', and 'Increase Knockback with Power Boost'.

You haters can have a 'No knockback' in there, I suppose, but don't expect me to group with you if you want me to turn off my knockback beforehand.

I personally would never turn off my KB no matter how much someone complains, to me it is one of the best types of mez in the game it has saved me countless times already as something can't kill me if they are sat on their rear.

Is this true?
This means I can turn knockback off for my PB, forever?
Really??
Really??

If my Power Thrust is gutted, then there will be many happy level 1 Skuls in AP but I will RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE. :P

Link to source?

Wait...so instead of giving us the option to turn off KB...or a -KB IO...they just went ahead and completely turned it off?

That's BS.

I can understand why some people do not like knockback...but I happen to really like it.

I even slot KB enhancers to some of my attacks so that they actually do Knockback instead of Knockdown.

Also...they may say this is a bug...but I can guarantee they did this on purpose to gauge our reaction...as there has been an ongoing thread discussing this very issue for some time now.

Holy Carp! Can't wait to give my PBs a go this evening.

Devs Please don't fix this bug! Give KBers an option to make it higher if they want, but leave this, Pweeeeeeaase!

Agreed. Fix it. Knockout blow deserves more than to see an enemy not even clear your chest. Your hand blows through the top of their skull rather than sending them flying. It's sad.

Ok, so I tested Repulsion Field and got... strange... results.

Enemies still fly backward. How far backward? Hard to tell. It almost looks like they are getting smacked by a couple of pulses on their way back, but I can't be sure. It's definitely still throwing them away, so my dream of having the enemy bounce in place is, for now, not achieved.

Force Bolt at Mag 16 was throwing a same level minion a very short distance, incidentally making that power much better (but still stupidly awful compared to the debuff powers in other sets).

I tested this on a Storm/Energy defender and an Energy/Energy blaster. In both cases, it seemed that KB was greatly reduced in all the Energy Blast attacks, Gale, Lightning Storm, Tornado, and the blaster epic version of Bonfire.

It looks a lot like exactly what people who hate KB would want to see it changed to. Nothing goes more than a few feet at most. Using Power Push whenever it was up, alternating with other blasts, I couldn't move a yellow-con boss outside of normal attack range before it was eventually defeated. Definitely does not play like it did Wednesday. Felt like I was playing underwater or something.

Please fix this bug.

I agree: this does look deliberate. Like I said, if I hated KB, this is pretty much what I'd want done to it. Whether it made it to live deliberately or not, it looks a lot like someone was testing a low-KB option.

Whether it's a stealth test ("oopsie!") or someone forgot to use production values for physics constants, I don't really even care, but until they at least announce their intentions with this, with half my 50s being KB-based in some way (storm and/or energy) and now feeling very nerfy, I'm not investing further time in the game.

KD is great stuff. It keeps my Inv/Axe tank, electric scrapper, and shield scrapper alive. However, Storm Summoning should not feel like Battle Axe.

It may be deliberate, but the fact it's on live may be unintentional. It's entirely possible that the devs may be playing with a few different ideas for changes to knockback, and trying them out before presenting them to the players for testing... and one of those tests accidentally got included in the live build.

I agree with the people saying return it to normal as default, and give us the option to have it this way per character. Knockback has been working the same way for seven years, there's no reason the people who like it should have to deal with this big a change. But, just like the whole "unwanted movement speed buffs" deal, when you hate something that much, you're willing to take extra steps to get it out of your life.

Went to PI and tried this out with my Peacebringer. Not going to lie, really enjoyed the character for the first time. But this is clearly a bug and should be fixed.

Oh my...

Wormhole just got 100 times better*!

*Opinion based