Discussion: Featured Items at the Paragon Market - 11/8/11
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I've never bought this type of thing, and I am uncertain how they work. The descriptions in the store seem ambiguous. Would anyone answer a couple of questions?
Pulverizing Fisticuffs Enhancement Set
(Rare Melee Damage IO Set - Level Range 10-25) The Pulverizing Fisticuffs Enhancement Set is a RARE "Melee Damage" Enhancement Set. This set contains 3 Enhancements and is designed for characters that are Level 10 to 25. Store-bought enhancements cannot be sold or traded to other players but can be emailed to other characters on your own game account. Please note, enhancements in this set can be bought separately. This set will only available at the Paragon Market until November 14! Market Location: Enhancements > Max Level 25 > Damage Sets > Melee Damage Regular Price: 372 Points - 50% off Sale Price: 186 Points |
- If the level range is 10-25, does that mean that they stop working when the character becomes level 26?
- When they say these can be e-mailed, does that mean that they are not bound to a character? For example, I do a respec at level 26 to unslot them, could I e-mail them to another character on the same account?
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Sure sounds that way.
I've never bought this type of thing, and I am uncertain how they work. The descriptions in the store seem ambiguous. Would anyone answer a couple of questions?
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They do not level beyond level 25. After level 25, they stay at their level 25 values.
If the level range is 10-25, does that mean that they stop working when the character becomes level 26?
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They will continue to work as level 10-25 enhancements, depending on the character level, unless you exemplar to under 7 or advance beyond level 25.
Yes, that is exactly what it means. However it also means that you can't put them in the market, in base enhancement storage, or trade them with another account.
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I wouldn't buy one for real money, no. It's not that hard for me to get them in game, and they work well enough for how I play that spending this kind of money for them just doesn't make sense. That's not a complaint. I think they should be priced such that only certain people will by them, or there'd be no reason to have the ways we have to get them in game.
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On this note, dev team: Spring is a good ways off. Plenty of time to make an aura that does just what this poster describes. Namely, make plants/flowers/etc sprout up in a path behind you. Probably not fertile aura though but still, running around with spring flowers popping up behind you would be cool for plant themes. I am sure someone out there with the character "Green Thumb" the plant controller would jump for joy.
Is the autumn aura supposed to be fallen leaves? It looks more like sprouting/growing leaves. If the latter, I was wondering if you could rename it to something more appropriate, maybe to something like verdant or fertile aura. I wouldn't complain, except that it looks like the aura does the exact opposite of what is associated with autumn.
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Also, I like this week. I like the IO sets price and short term availability. Real money micro transaction IO's need to be limited both in cost and availability so as they do not supercede the in game reward system. But, it is very nice to offer them occasionally as an alternative to the "w4nt nao!!" impulses of the MMO player that has an awsome concept and no current means to get the IO's in game. I will probably buy a set or two of ToD.
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What's this talk of "real money"?? The store takes Paragon Points, which, as a VIP, you get a bunch of for free every month.
I wouldn't buy one for real money, no. It's not that hard for me to get them in game, and they work well enough for how I play that spending this kind of money for them just doesn't make sense. That's not a complaint. I think they should be priced such that only certain people will by them, or there'd be no reason to have the ways we have to get them in game.
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Autumn Path Aura must have gotten a last minute price change -- the email that went out happened to note it as only 80 points.
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Most players would want up to 5x each set for a single character. The players have only received 2 allotments of 400/550 Paragon Points, in addition to the possible addition of 1,200 Paragon Points if the account was active from June-September. Only they've had sales already (costume sets, powers, other stuff), and these enhancements are only available until next week (possibly before players get their next allotment of Paragon Points). Additionally they are selling the Makos set for 450 PP/set, more than the monthly allotment.
What's this talk of "real money"?? The store takes Paragon Points, which, as a VIP, you get a bunch of for free every month.
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All this adds up to players having to fork over REAL MONEY for Paragon Points to outfit a character.
Saying a player doesn't need to spend money is an outright lie.
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Actually, it is correct to say a player does not NEED to spend money. You can play the game just fine without purchasing one item from the paragon market.
Saying a player doesn't need to spend money is an outright lie.
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But if you *want* the goodies like the costume packs and other items, then yes, you have to spend money. But you don't *need* to.
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On this note, dev team: Spring is a good ways off. Plenty of time to make an aura that does just what this poster describes. Namely, make plants/flowers/etc sprout up in a path behind you. Probably not fertile aura though but still, running around with spring flowers popping up behind you would be cool for plant themes. I am sure someone out there with the character "Green Thumb" the plant controller would jump for joy.
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Kinetic Combat would be a pretty bad buy under this system.
The main attraction of the attuned IOs is that they level with the character, so you can slot the character early, and get the advantage of increasing IO values as they level. Since Kin Combats will stop levelling up at 35, there isn't all that much advantage over slotting them around level 30-35, as normal. Paying real money to get to use the IOs for an extra 10 or 15 levels seems a bit redundant, especially when they're levels that go by fairly quickly anyway.
There's the bonuses for exemping down, but personally, I don't think getting to keep the set bonuses down to level 17 instead of level 30ish would be enough of a draw, either. If I'm playing exemped, I've very probably on a team, at which point the team buffs and debuffs will more than make up for missing set bonuses.
Of course, I guess all this is really aimed at Premium players anyway, who either have to buy sets like there or buy the IO (and AH) license every month. Personally, I'd still probably go for the licenses, but I guess it's offering a choice.
The main attraction of the attuned IOs is that they level with the character, so you can slot the character early, and get the advantage of increasing IO values as they level. Since Kin Combats will stop levelling up at 35, there isn't all that much advantage over slotting them around level 30-35, as normal. Paying real money to get to use the IOs for an extra 10 or 15 levels seems a bit redundant, especially when they're levels that go by fairly quickly anyway.
There's the bonuses for exemping down, but personally, I don't think getting to keep the set bonuses down to level 17 instead of level 30ish would be enough of a draw, either. If I'm playing exemped, I've very probably on a team, at which point the team buffs and debuffs will more than make up for missing set bonuses.
Of course, I guess all this is really aimed at Premium players anyway, who either have to buy sets like there or buy the IO (and AH) license every month. Personally, I'd still probably go for the licenses, but I guess it's offering a choice.
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Kinetic Combat would be a pretty bad buy under this system.
The main attraction of the attuned IOs is that they level with the character, so you can slot the character early, and get the advantage of increasing IO values as they level. Since Kin Combats will stop levelling up at 35, there isn't all that much advantage over slotting them around level 30-35, as normal. Paying real money to get to use the IOs for an extra 10 or 15 levels seems a bit redundant, especially when they're levels that go by fairly quickly anyway. There's the bonuses for exemping down, but personally, I don't think getting to keep the set bonuses down to level 17 instead of level 30ish would be enough of a draw, either. If I'm playing exemped, I've very probably on a team, at which point the team buffs and debuffs will more than make up for missing set bonuses. Of course, I guess all this is really aimed at Premium players anyway, who either have to buy sets like there or buy the IO (and AH) license every month. Personally, I'd still probably go for the licenses, but I guess it's offering a choice. |
Then there's people like myself, who would much rather buy IOs outright rather than deal with the Invention system. Honestly, I would love to be able to play the game using IOs like I used to with SOs, just buy what you need as you level and play what I prefer instead of worrying about what gives the most efficient reward for my time. Honestly, with this new model, my time is money and I'll spend some to make it more enjoyable.
Its a pity that they aren't available until the 15th, since that's my payday (I only get paid once a month) and moving this month has put a damper on my play money until next week, however, I don't really use these three much, so buying them really doesn't matter (I have one attack on a character that is 3-slotted with each of these for the hit points from each and yes, if these were available on the 15th, I would buy those that I would need for every build I have projected for them).
Now, when they sell Kinetic Combat sets or Luck of the Gambler Procs (preferably on the 15th or later in the month), the spending limit will be the only thing determining how many of those I buy.
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I wouldn't buy one for real money, no. It's not that hard for me to get them in game, and they work well enough for how I play that spending this kind of money for them just doesn't make sense. That's not a complaint. I think they should be priced such that only certain people will by them, or there'd be no reason to have the ways we have to get them in game.
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There will always be people that prefer to get IOs the in-game way instead of paying for the SBEs and these are priced maybe a tad higher than they should be, but it does give us some speculative reference for the rest of the rare sets.
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I would love to know which characters:
A. have 5 melee attacks B. need 5 Mako or FoD C. have those melee attacks 6 slotted early enough to make buying these worthwhile |
Myrmydon - level 50 WP/SS Tanker
Jab
Haymaker
Knockout Blow
Air Superiority
Kick
All 4-slotted with:
Kinetic Combat
Accuracy/Damage
Damage/Endurance
Damage/Recharge
Damage/Endurance/Recharge
Toss in a couple of enhancement boosters for all of these (for the accuracy and damage percentage boosts) and place the extra slots somewhere else.
I'm with you on question number two. Who really needs much of Mako's Bite or Touch of Death...
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Except now I hear that you cant boost these.... :|
Attuned IOs sit in your email waiting to be claimed by one of your alts. And if that alt doesn't use it, it can be globally emailed to another alt. (You can't, however, email it to anyone else, put it in a Base Enhancement Table, trade it, or sell it.)
So, you can buy several sets now and use them up as you create new alts in the future. |
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I just want to come back and say I love the new path aura. A more flowery or vinelike option would be great additions in the future. I was uncertain I wanted to pay as much for a path aura, but it is definitely worth it.
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Lower the price more and make them a permanent addition to the store and I can see myself buying them. Under current conditions, I pass.
Marketing: get the devs to make NEW sets that are only purchaseable through the store, are untradeable, and are attuned from 1-50. Make them have the values of a plain yellow set and have it be available to every character I make instead of a one-time character specific item. THAT would be very interesting. I could work off those until I gather in-game money for stuff that is on the market. If anything, this would make the market grow in availability:
Now, considering MARTy and the upcoming changes to AE farming, I expect the market to shrink considerably. Availability of recipes are already suffering - lately I have been noticing hundreds of people offering bids on items that do not exist on the market simply because there is a shortage. I don't know if it is just due to people vendoring recipes more often or what.
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